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Probably because you have to hold it down to do any damage with it don't you? Do companions use the chainsaw or the ripper either?
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thebardyspoon posted:Probably because you have to hold it down to do any damage with it don't you? Do companions use the chainsaw or the ripper either? Arcade has a ripper when he joins
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Sep 7, 2013 14:23
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I think companions and other NPCs use chainsaws and rippers as if they were in VATS, just a single high-damage attack that ignores DT/DR. Not quite as effective as the player, but still useful. Unfortunately they don't get any benefits from modded weapons either, so that GRA ripper you modded to gently caress and back is useless in Arcade's hands. I'm betting the Industrial Hand is an error; Lonesome Road has quite a few, like Ulysses' duster and variants not having a female model. 
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Sep 7, 2013 21:29
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All that ammo collecting I've been doing actually came in handy a little bit ago. I'm running around picking up unique weapons. This thing was stupid easy to get, and once I had it, popped a Psycho and Dead Wind Cavern might as well have been populated by a bunch of boatflies, holy crap. It definitely came in handy that 5mm always has a -15DT effect, so I didn't even have to bother with armor-piercing ammo. edit: This is me Friar Zucchini fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Sep 8, 2013 |
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Sep 7, 2013 23:39
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I just finally finished Lonely Hearts. Zion was a nice change of pace, and it was thrilling to see the differences between a shithole like the Mojave and the relatively unspoiled and preserved wilderness of the canyonlands. It was especially nice when it rained. I could see my Courier retiring in Zion and partying down with the tribes there. Take drugs. Kill a bear. Also, as melodramatic as he is, I genuinely like Graham. And holy hell, his combat prowess for the short time he's your companion. No wonder people feared him so much when he was Legate. Joshua Graham is pretty great. 99% of that may or may not be from being voiced by Keith Szarabajka. 
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Sep 8, 2013 08:46
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Let's talk about explosives play throughs. Specifically why the grenade machinegun rocks so much but the number of vendors selling ammo for it is so low. It's so depressing.
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Sep 8, 2013 10:59
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Have you tried the quarter master at the dam? If I remember right, he consistently has around a thousand 25mm grenades in stock. Other options: Gun Runners, BoS quartermaster, Boomers, Great Khans.
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Sep 8, 2013 11:02
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Good lord, Boone is mean. I was getting murdered by the Cazadores on the quest to get their eggs. So I went and grabbed Boone out of the Lucky 38, come back, he sits on a little hill and takes out the entire nest without being noticed.
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Sep 8, 2013 12:54
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Smol posted:Have you tried the quarter master at the dam? If I remember right, he consistently has around a thousand 25mm grenades in stock. Or do Contreras's unmarked quest to expand his inventory.
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DeathChicken posted:Good lord, Boone is mean. I was getting murdered by the Cazadores on the quest to get their eggs. So I went and grabbed Boone out of the Lucky 38, come back, he sits on a little hill and takes out the entire nest without being noticed. Boone is one half of the deathtrust. The other half is Veronica, who is just as brutal in melee.
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Sep 8, 2013 16:10
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SkopeDog posted:Boone is one half of the deathtrust. The other half is Veronica, who is just as brutal in melee. Give her Pushy and then reminisce about the times things used to get close enough to melee you.
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Sep 8, 2013 17:21
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SkopeDog posted:Boone is one half of the deathtrust. The other half is Veronica, who is just as brutal in melee. And then there is Old Vaquero Raul, the guy that will have finished reloading his Brush Gun while mocking a pile of corpses by the time you draw your weapon.
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If you want maximum carnage efficiency, Boone and Ed-E are like a combat dream team. Ed-E spots them, plays cowboy music, and Boone takes them out before you can even put a bead on them.
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Sep 8, 2013 18:24
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It really sucks that you can't craft 25mm grenades when you can craft rockets and so many kinds of hand held explosives. My favorite explosives weapon is probably Red Glare but for some reason when I tried to use it on Legate Lanius it did gently caress all damage. Entire HE rocket magazine to his face took about 1/4 of his health.
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Orange Crush Rush posted:And then there is Old Vaquero Raul, the guy that will have finished reloading his Brush Gun while mocking a pile of corpses by the time you draw your weapon. I love his "Okay, I guess we're doing this  " like it's just this minor inconvenience that he has to take on that bandit camp/cazadore nest/deathclaw pack. Best companion.
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It's a bit of a pity Cass isn't more effective - I really like her. Then again - Whiskey Rose plus lots and lots of drugs 
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Sep 8, 2013 22:03
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Down whiskey by the fistful. Use shotguns to fight everything. Cass teaches you to play right.
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Bobfly posted:It's a bit of a pity Cass isn't more effective - I really like her. Then again - Whiskey Rose plus lots and lots of drugs I mean Cass ends up with 100 in Guns to so give her the All-American and enjoy watching everything around disappear. But yeah for the most part you want Cass because Whiskey Rose is actually a really, really good perk.
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Is it quicker to go through Veronica or Arcade to learn power armor handling?
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WHAT A GOOD DOG posted:Let's talk about explosives play throughs. Specifically why the grenade machinegun rocks so much but the number of vendors selling ammo for it is so low. The 25mm grenade APW is like a less retarded grenade machinegun, it's semiautomatic, weighs about as much as a rifle and it's upgradeable to 8 in the magazine I think. I love that thing; it plays like a shotgun with absurdly accurate explosive slugs once you upgrade it and that was never not enough in a completionist playthrough for me (full auto might be the reason you're hurting for grenades  ). I never had trouble keeping ammo around for it, the gun runners tend to stock a lot of them and I cleaned them out every time they restocked. Don't forget to hit Nellis though, there are lots of explosives to steal in the armory and around the shop in the hangar.Vakal posted:Is it quicker to go through Veronica or Arcade to learn power armor handling? Veronica by far, Arcade doesn't do poo poo for you till the end of the main storyline. I still need to sell him to caesar... poverty goat fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Sep 8, 2013 |
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Sep 8, 2013 22:36
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Seashell Salesman posted:It really sucks that you can't craft 25mm grenades when you can craft rockets and so many kinds of hand held explosives. My favorite explosives weapon is probably Red Glare but for some reason when I tried to use it on Legate Lanius it did gently caress all damage. Entire HE rocket magazine to his face took about 1/4 of his health. I was seriously underwhelmed by the Red Glare. I figured hey, if a missile launcher is good for deathclaws, the red glare oughta gently caress them up.  C'MERE BITCH WANNA PIECE OF TH oh i didn't mean actually come here...Reason for that being, I hadn't bothered with anything that used 5mm ammo. That's been corrected, so now that I've got the CZ75, deathclaws can't touch me.
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Despite having more ammo that he could possibly ever need, Boone just decided that our Deathclaw hunt was getting a little boring and decided to switch to using his knife for no reason whatsoever. He will be missed.
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Friar Zucchini posted:I was seriously underwhelmed by the Red Glare. I figured hey, if a missile launcher is good for deathclaws, the red glare oughta gently caress them up. Red Glare is probably great at low levels, but I always get it at like level 45 and everything has half a million HP so I never make a dent. It looks pretty, at least.
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Vakal posted:Is it quicker to go through Veronica or Arcade to learn power armor handling? Veronica has nothing to do with Power Armor Training beyond bypassing the Brotherhood of Steel's introductory quest to get rid of a Ranger in Hidden Valley.
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Sep 9, 2013 06:18
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Doug Lombardi posted:Veronica has nothing to do with Power Armor Training beyond bypassing the Brotherhood of Steel's introductory quest to get rid of a Ranger in Hidden Valley. Also you don't have to wait for ED-E to get hacked by Lorenzo and/or lockpick a Very Hard door and/or advance the plot to the point where you have to make contact with the BoS. Grabbing Veronica is definitely less effort than those things.
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Sep 9, 2013 07:06
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Actually, you can find a password on the patrol near Black Mountain. So really, you can go inside as soon as you get to Hidden Valley.
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Sleepy Owl posted:Actually, you can find a password on the patrol near Black Mountain. So really, you can go inside as soon as you get to Hidden Valley. Yeah, if you know what you're doing you can pretty much gain access immediately, just have to kill some scorpions and run from some centaurs. The only tricky thing is taking out that NCR ranger around Level 2-3, because it's unlikely you'll be able to take him in a straight fight or pass the speech check. I've taken to planting dynamite on him, but it feels kinda lame because it's basically save-scumming to both successfully plant it and not get blown the gently caress up in the process.
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Can't you just wait until he leaves on patrol and then smash his radio? That's what I usually do.
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The .45 auto pistol and "The Light Shining in the Darkness" have been a huge let down to me. I decided to do a gangster gimmick run, using only pistols that fit thematically and wearing only a grimy business suit buffed up the signature armour mod. I had been planning on using the .45 pistols since the start as they seemed like the perfect fit for my character but even with the grunt perk, +P rounds and the signature weapon mod so far I've found them to be frustratingly under powered. Before now I had been using Maria as a stand in and I'd swear it out performs Light. That 6 round mag on Light really sucks. Edit: Just got out of Zion Valley and I've notcied a marked improvement in it's performance, guess there's a big difference between White Legs and Fiends in terms of durability. CheeseThief fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Sep 9, 2013 |
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CheeseThief posted:The .45 auto pistol and "The Light Shining in the Darkness" have been a huge let down to me. I decided to do a gangster gimmick run, using only pistols that fit thematically and wearing only a grimy business suit buffed up the signature armour mod. I had been planning on using the .45 pistols since the start as they seemed like the perfect fit for my character but even with the grunt perk, +P rounds and the signature weapon mod so far I've found them to be frustratingly under powered. Before now I had been using Maria as a stand in and I'd swear it out performs Light. Have you taken the Grunt perk? In my experience the .45 weapons are pretty lethal with it.
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You're crazy or missing a lot of your shots. ALSiD hits like a brick, for a pistol. While a small mag, it also, unlike the revolvers, lets you fire pretty much as fast as you can pull the trigger, and has a blistering reload. That said, it is a pistol. Off the top of my head, the .44 hits barely harder, Lil Devil hits a lot harder, and the hunting revolver/Sequoia is basically a rifle. All fire a lot slower than ALSiD, though, to the point where ALSiD has a higher DPS than any of them but Lil Devil. Its a great weapon against unarmored targets at close range. Anything else and you'll struggle. Try boosting crits, its got a decent crit chance. edit: If you're using Grunt and the Sig. Weapons mod, you'll be fine with it. In vanilla its just underwhelming because pistols weren't designed to be primary weapons. There's a reason they're basically all a "tier" behind their ammo-equivalent rifles. It makes a great backup weapon for someone using a slower, high-powered rifle, and that's all pistols were supposed to be. That, and sneak-attacks, though the lack of a silencer is going to hurt you. Ravenfood fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Sep 9, 2013 |
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Wolfsheim posted:Yeah, if you know what you're doing you can pretty much gain access immediately, just have to kill some scorpions and run from some centaurs. Veronica is still easier than that. Goodsprings -> Neil's Shack -> 188 Trading Post -> [Fast Travel] Neil's Shack -> Hidden Valley. Takes maybe 10 minutes, no skill checks, no savescumming, no fighting.
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CheeseThief posted:The .45 auto pistol and "The Light Shining in the Darkness" have been a huge let down to me. I decided to do a gangster gimmick run, using only pistols that fit thematically and wearing only a grimy business suit buffed up the signature armour mod. I had been planning on using the .45 pistols since the start as they seemed like the perfect fit for my character but even with the grunt perk, +P rounds and the signature weapon mod so far I've found them to be frustratingly under powered. Before now I had been using Maria as a stand in and I'd swear it out performs Light. Use .45 Super and you will do a shitload more damage.
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Seashell Salesman posted:Veronica is still easier than that. Goodsprings -> Neil's Shack -> 188 Trading Post -> [Fast Travel] Neil's Shack -> Hidden Valley. Takes maybe 10 minutes, no skill checks, no savescumming, no fighting. Eh, true, but that's a little too meta-gamey for my tastes. I'm not any kind f master roleplayer, but I like to at least play through the game in a way that the courier could possibly stumble into.
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Wolfsheim posted:Eh, true, but that's a little too meta-gamey for my tastes. I'm not any kind f master roleplayer, but I like to at least play through the game in a way that the courier could possibly stumble into. I think I've done all these quests so many times I have no idea what I'm meant to know and not know, I definitely don't read the dialogues anymore. Usually I roll 6 luck (5 if I'm feeling very patient) and go directly to Vegas via the Neil's shack route and go Naughty Nightwear -> Atomic Wrangler -> Luck Implant -> Vegas casinos -> Every other implant 
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I've discovered that this game can be a major bitch without Sneak, Computers, or Lockpick. Future John Wayne don't need any of that thief poo poo, but like half the quests need that to get the best ending. Still not as bad as my 1 CH no Speech run where I couldn't even recruit Cass.
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StashAugustine posted:I've discovered that this game can be a major bitch without Sneak, Computers, or Lockpick. Future John Wayne don't need any of that thief poo poo, but like half the quests need that to get the best ending. Still not as bad as my 1 CH no Speech run where I couldn't even recruit Cass. 'best ending' does not necessarily mean that you break every lock and hack every computer, in the (even slightly) grand scheme of things that means nothing. You can still level up, you can still get great gear, you can still get entertaining dialogue, and you can still finish the game without completing a single skill check or picking a single lock or hacking a single computer
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Pwnstar posted:Use .45 Super and you will do a shitload more damage. Is .45 Super that much better than +P? I looked at it and I didn't think the extra -4 to DT and .20 damage was worth the fairly large boost to weapon degradation. I suppose with signature weapons that might not be as much of an issue though.
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CheeseThief posted:Is .45 Super that much better than +P? I looked at it and I didn't think the extra -4 to DT and .20 damage was worth the fairly large boost to weapon degradation. I suppose with signature weapons that might not be as much of an issue though. Signature weapons makes any weapon viable, let alone the best handgun in the the game.
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Thanks to whoever recommended shooting the wings off of cazadors in this thread - since I started crippling their wings and using the tee off special attack with driver Nephi's golf club they've gone from a pain in the rear end to my favourite enemy to come across.
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