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Hammy posted:I always loved this episode, even more on rewatch. The moment when Cutty tells the election worker to, "Move on, man" is superbly delivered and a little haunting. It's a brief glimpse into his former life and drives home how someone's past is always with them, which then brings me right back to D's interpretation of Gastby. That's only because strict felon disenfranchisement laws are a holdover from the Jim Crow era. Interestingly enough in real life Maryland voted to restore voting rights to felons a year after this season aired and presumably took place: http://www.brennancenter.org/press-release/maryland-governor-restores-voting-rights-50000 Jerusalem posted:Even though the Barksdale Organization is no longer active, I have to imagine Avon had plenty of laundered money tucked away safely that the police never found. But then there's that scene in season 5 where Avon makes sure the cash Marlo has to fork over to meet Sergei goes to Brianna, so maybe even she was feeling the pinch? I thought that was more Avon simply looking after his sister and maybe some lingering guilt over what happened to D'Angelo. He still seemed to not be hurting for anything in prison so it's not like the extra money would've been of that much use to him inside. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Sep 3, 2013 |
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Though what's funny about that scene is, even though he can't vote, Cutty seems to do more for the community by himself than Carcetti and Royce do combined.
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Ms. Anna's fate is so sad. You can tell she's one of the few good foster parents out there, and the street takes her out too. Randy yelling at Carver, "Huh?! YOU GONNA HELP ME, SERGEANT CARVER?! HUH? YOU GON HELP ME!?" I think it's a good twist that Namond gets out while being the "baddest" of the group, and everyone else suffers. Good writing doesn't make me any less sad though.
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Hammy posted:You have a good point. My feeling is that she's learned from the tagging incident that she can break Randy by threatening to call Miss Anna. This is what she intends to do here. She lands a much bigger fish than she expected, but she is still coercing Randy to snitch despite almost certainly knowing the potential consequences for him. Even if Donnelly was using Ms Anna as a tool to get information out of Randy, she was going to have to call her no mattter what anyway. There is absolutely no way that she wasn't going to call his guardian, but really the only thing she could do differently is to frame the coversation a little different. The sad thing is that if this was Randy's actual parents, he probably would've never flipped because the threat of going back to a group home wouldn't be there. The group home was Randy's only incentive to give up info. Randy's case is so sad all around, if his father was actually there for him, he probably would've ended up in the drug game early, and his life wouldn't have been that much different.
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Meltathon posted:Even if Donnelly was using Ms Anna as a tool to get information out of Randy, she was going to have to call her no mattter what anyway. There is absolutely no way that she wasn't going to call his guardian, but really the only thing she could do differently is to frame the coversation a little different. The sad thing is that if this was Randy's actual parents, he probably would've never flipped because the threat of going back to a group home wouldn't be there. The group home was Randy's only incentive to give up info. Randy's case is so sad all Meltathon posted:Even if Donnelly was using Ms Anna as a tool to get information out of Randy, she was going to have to call her no mattter what anyway. There is absolutely no way that she wasn't going to call his guardian, but really the only thing she could do differently is to frame the coversation a little different. The sad thing is that if this was Randy's actual parents, he probably would've never flipped because the threat of going back to a group home wouldn't be there. The group home was Randy's only incentive to give up info. Randy's case is so sad all around, if his father was actually there for him, he probably would've ended up in the drug game early, and his life wouldn't have been that much different. It may have been better materially but his life expectancy would have been truncated. I honestly don't know which is worse
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Michael's movin' on up.
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Just finished my first run through of the show. What hit me the most is Dukie turning out to be like the environment he was brought up in. Definitely gonna rewatch but for now..too much Wire.
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Season 4, Episode 7: Unto OthersThe Bunk posted:Aw yeah. That golden rule. Omar is reading in his cell when Donnie and Big Guy arrive with a stack of books, including a guide to doing your taxes. They're not for learning, they use them as improvised body armor for Omar, wrapping them around his body and hiding it beneath his clothes. Omar COULD hide out in the relative safety of his cell with his two hulking bodyguards, but just as on the street, inside they know the value of sending a message. Omar has to go out and get his meals, he has to affect indifference to his plight and show no fear, or he'll be torn apart.... and more importantly, he needs to maintain his aura of terror. So he joins the line for food and watches carefully as a guard makes a point of leaving his spot and another inmate gets into a deliberately loud argument with another about his place in line, hoping to distract from his true target - Omar. Pulling a shiv he makes a lunge at Omar who is ready for him, slamming him against the wall as Donnie and Big Guy keep everybody else back. They needn't have bothered, the other inmates hold no loyalty to the would-be assassin, openly shaking their heads in disapproval at how he has screwed up his shot. Omar sends his message and does so VERY effectively, by not only physically dominating the larger man but adding a hugely uncomfortable sexual element to the scene, kissing his ear and whispering about the fun they could have together - Omar knows how to turn open homophobia against his attacker, humiliating him before adding injury to insult by stabbing him in the rear end with the shiv. Finally the authorities decide to take notice, a siren blaring and a tactical squad in armor rushing down the stairs to take control. Donnie warns everybody that they saw nothing and the trio hide in the stairwell as the tactical squad pass them by, then return to Omar's cell. Big Guy points out that the money being offered for Omar's head now is almost enough to make him consider taking a shot himself, and Donnie reveals that Marlo is the one behind Omar's incarceration. I was quite surprised by Omar's reaction to this, as he reveals he is unaware of who Marlo is. Considering what he said to Marlo at the poker game, I'd assumed he was aware of the Stanfield Organization, but it seems his admonition of,"I can find your people easier than they can find me," was just part of Omar's typical use of terrorist tactics to convince his targets he is everywhere and knows everything. Omar plans out his next move, noting the hole in wrapping around his "armor" that indicates just how close the attacker came to killing him, and asks to make a phone-call, and gets one right there as Donnie hands over a cell-phone he has managed to bring in with him. To Donnie and Big Guy's surprise, he explains he means to call a police - there's a man who owes him a favor.   Bubbles takes inventory at his shack, but he can't take his eyes off of Sherrod's bed. He goes through his schoolbag, looking at the "workbooks" Sherrod supposedly used for his schooling. It's sweet but heartbreaking when he turns to the inner cover and finds a drawing of what would seem to be himself, drawn with love by Sherrod for the only father figure he knows. Maybe Sherrod can't read or write, but he's not stupid and he has some creative potential... but it will never come out in his current situation. Carcetti - now Mayor in all but name - meets once again with Old Tony, and now he has the time to enjoy the former Mayor's company. Tony tells him what he must already know and be dreaming of - the Democratic Party at the National level must now be aware of him. A young, attractive white politician who just knocked off a popular incumbent black Mayor in Baltimore gets attention. Tommy is curious though, Tony was once in the position he is now in but gave up after a first term as Mayor. Sure he had the riots to deal with, but he had a fantastic organization backing him and probably could have walked into a second term, so why didn't he? By way of reply, Tony tells Tommy a story, one that represents the downside of reaching the top of local politics. In his story, his first day on the job was punctuated by a series of beautiful silver bowls brought to him by his Chief of Staff from the Unions, the blacks, the polacks, the ministers etc. And in each bowl was a huge helping of poo poo, and his job was to eat it all... and do that every single day. The point of the story is that being Mayor isn't some big party where you reach the top of the mountain at last and get to enjoy yourself. Yes there is power and prestige, but the Mayor is now the most visible point for every group (and individual) with a problem that needs solving or a complaint that needs to be made. As far as Tony was concerned, one term was enough, and after that he was content with the fine life of being a Downtown Lawyer who got to go home each night and spend time with his family. On the street, Cutty comes looking for Spider at a place he can't run from - the corner where he sells drugs. Spider till tries to clear out but Cutty calls him back and he finally faces up to his former trainer, who demands to know why he hasn't been coming to the Gym. When Spider just glares, Cutty reminds him that what was between him and Spider's mother was just between them, and makes the mistake of calling him son. That sets Spider off, yelling angrily that he's not Cutty's son, and he just gets madder when Cutty says he didn't mean to hurt him, insisting that NOBODY can hurt him. Here we have the crux of Spider's issues - here was probably the first positive male role model he'd ever had in his life, and he betrayed him. Whether he was insulted simply by the fact that Cutty had sex with his mother and then moved on (treating his mother as a disposable gently caress as Spider has probably been guilty of with other women in the past) or because he held out a secret hope that Cutty would become part of his family, the fact is that Cutty DID hurt him, and he can't stand that. His posturing is denial of his feelings, and Cutty understands in that moment that HE has hosed up and lost a talented boxer with great potential because of his own callous behavior. Spider storms off telling Cutty to either step up or off, because his "customers" are backing up, and Cutty is left alone on the street. At Edward Tilghman during the lunch-break, Prez observes some of the students playing poker with nuts in his class and spots the use of quarters, meaning he has to warn them that he can't allow actual gambling for money. They explain they use the quarters as a reminder of how many of the nuts in the pool belong to them, and Prez watches as they play out the hand - Michael thinks that Karim's three 9s beat his flush but Karim is honest enough to explain that they don't. As Michael happily rakes in his cash, Prez tells Karim he should have figured the odds better, and Karim good-naturedly warns him not to try and teach them during lunch-break. Michael is curious though, and when Prez begins to lay out how maths can help them be better gamblers the entire gathered group shows more interest than they ever have during any of his lessons. Michael asks if odds can be applied to dice as well, since that is what they mostly play, and Prez finds himself in the unprecedented situation of having a class of 8th graders fascinated and eager for a math lesson.   Norris and Greggs return to Homicide with their jailhouse snitch, where Greggs grumpily asks an amused Landsman if they have permission to solve the Braddock case now that the Primary is over. Landsman, in a great mood after avoiding pissing off the eventual winner, gives them the go-ahead. Spotting Freamon working on some miniature furniture, he first asks if he has anything better to do (not till he catches a call) and then asks just how much he could sell the piece he is currently working on. Freamon can make up to $300 for this piece, leaving an impressed Landsman to complain that he needs to get a hobby before returning to his office.... where he will probably read a porno mag. At Edward Tilghman, Bubbles visits with Miss Donnelly to ask about Sherrod. She's sad to inform him that he never returned to school after the last time he visited, and he admits sadly that they've had a falling out and Sherrod is no longer "home". If Sherrod should come by, he asks her to let him know that he's welcome to come back, and she gives a sad nod - so many parents probably take no interest in their kids, and here is "Uncle" Bubbles trying his hardest to no effect. As Bubbles leaves he passes Prez, winking at him and whispering that he won't blow Prez's "cover", as he has absolutely no idea that Prez is no longer police. Prez asks Donnelly if the school has any boardgames and she begrudgingly hands over the keys to the basement storage room, warning him to make sure he's still teaching to the curriculum. Meanwhile, Bunk is visiting with Omar, having answered Omar's call for help only because of the assistance Omar eventually gave him by returning Dozerman's gun to him. Omar reminds Bunk that Ilene Nathan promised to help him if he ever needed it, but Bunk reminds HIM that the promise was on some minor felonies, not a taxpayer murder. He scoffs at Omar's protestations of innocence (jails are full of innocent people!) so Omar has to explain why the witness is lying - Old Face Andre works a package and holds a grudge against him, as people in his line of work often do. Bunk doesn't accept he is innocent, but points out that if he is, he's still guilty of any number of other murders, some of which are sitting in Bunk's own unsolved files - including Stringer Bell and his muscle. Clearly pleased to see Omar where he feels Omar belongs, Bunk prepares to leave, satisfied with the current situation and not sympathetic at all that Omar is a marked man inside - even Omar has to admit that if he'd known he would end up in jail he wouldn't have robbed so many of them. Bunk laughs that this is that golden rule (epigraph for the episode and a reference to the episode title), but as he prepares to go Omar plays his one final card. Proving that he did listen to Bunk's angry rant at him in season 3, he reminds Bunk that a man must have a code, and while Bunk might be pleased to see him in prison, the fact is that allowing this situation to stand means he is knowingly giving somebody else a free pass on a murder. Offering Nathan's card to Bunk again, the Detective is furious at himself as he takes it back, trapped by his own words and the moral code he stood up so eloquently for the previous season. In th storage room, Prez and Dukie go through the various boardgames looking for dice. As Dukie works through it, Prez looks around the room and is shocked to discover that the new 5th Edition math books are sitting unused in a box while they are still using the old 3rd editions for their classes. Continuing to wander, he is even more shocked to discover packaged computers are sitting unused, the seals on the boxes not even broken. It parallels nicely with the surveillance equipment McNulty once found gathering dust in storage, but begs the question of WHY all this stuff sits there unused. Is it because it arrived, was tucked away and just forgotten about? Are they scared to the new books will be damaged? That the computers will be stolen or damaged? That there isn't enough to go around so everybody will just have to suffer with inferior material? What are your thoughts? It's something I've never really been able to wrap my head around. Michael heads to Namond's corner, where Donut is taking the cash and I think Kenard is the tout, calling out the product to junkies coming by. Namond simply sits his stoop "overseeing" everything, relaxed and casual. Michael notes the presence of another crew on a corner up the block and asks who Namond is beefing with, and Namond demonstrates his incredible naivete by saying there is no beef. He thinks that they can both work their own corner and not bother with each other, paying no attention to the fact that the other crew is staring daggers at him. Michael clearly senses the aggression, because while Namond eagerly tries to change the subject to the gym, Michael won't take his eyes off of the other crew. He can see the danger, and he doesn't like it. Finally he says his goodbye and heads on, watched by the other crew who ponder whether Namond is a Marlo crew or not. Their leader doesn't think so, they're just kids screwing around, and he's obviously got some smarts as he works out how to deal with them. He doesn't want a beef on the street that will draw the police, so the two with him are to follow Namond when he leaves and give him a "warning" to stay away from the corner. They're concerned that Namond might be strapped, so the leader shows them the gun he has stashed on the car tire and reminds them there is no need to shoot/kill anybody, but Namond needs to know that they mean business. Marlo meets with Prop Joe on a park bench where they discuss Marlo's attempts to smoke out the person behind the camera by leading them to the train station. Herc obviously knew enough to keep from being identified, as all Marlo was able to establish was that it was law enforcement of some sort taking a crack at him. Joe considers and tells him he needs a name, because with a name Joe can find out anything he needs to. So how to get the name? Joe tells him to steal the camera, because action or lack of action will be equally informative. If he steals the camera and nobody comes forward, then he's being investigated by Federals, as only they can afford to lose a camera without blinking. If somebody approaches Marlo about it, it'll be a local cop - here Joe once again demonstrates the sadly open secret that the BPD is underfunded, and how criminals can take advantage of that.   Bubbles walks the streets with his "Depo", asking a browsing customer if he has seen Sherrod and asking him to tell Sherrod to go see Bubbles if he does. Selling 3 bootleg DVDs for $10 (Chinese piracy, no guys walking past waving at the camera!) he heads on contentedly down the street, calling out for people to come get their deals. Unfortunately for him, an unwelcome "customer" has spotted him and decides to pay another visit. It's the drug addict who was harassing Sherrod for a discount when Bubbles last saw him, and - his strength and health still untouched by the drugs - he muscles up on Bubbles and demands either money or pills from him, he doesn't care which. Bubbles, not wanting to take a beating if he can avoid it, hands over the $10 he just made and the addict heads away, leaving Bubbles to complain to the onlookers on the street that they're not taking care of their local store. He prepares to continue on down the street when he spots a police car rolling down the street, and eagerly flags it down to report the crime. Unfortunately for him, the officer in the car is none other than Walker, who does stop to hear his report but quickly proves to be just as predatory as the addict who robbed Bubbles. Spotting the trolley, he informs Bubbles that it is illegal to sell on the street without a license, and that his pirated DVDs are serious copyright infringement. Without even a phony explanation of collecting "evidence", he just openly removes a stack of DVDs and shirts from the trolley, piles them into his car and drives away as Bubbles can only stand and watch, mumbling about Baltimore's finest. It's not a good day to be Bubbles. In the Gym, Cutty calls everybody together, having to ring the bell and then summon Michael over when he won't stop working the heavy bag. He wants everybody who uses the Gym to hear this, and reminds them all that he recently got out of jail after a long stretch and they've probably all seen him welcome the attention of some of the local ladies. People laugh at this but he quickly quiets them, reminding them that some of these ladies are their relations, and that he's only just come to realize that it has been wrong of him to "take advantage". He explains he meant no disrespect or hurt feelings, they're in the Gym to better themselves and they don't need him wrecking that. With that he's done, and everybody goes back to what they were doing, except for Michael who keeps looking at Cutty. How does he feel about this pronouncement? Impressed by Cutty facing up to his problems? Concerned that now Cutty has no sexual outlet? Suspicious that he has discarded his "cover"? At Homicide there is no mistaking how people feel. Bunk is attempting to explain the Omar situation to Holley and Crutchfield, but the latter is furious at Bunk for sticking his nose into their case, and especially for trying to take away a clearance from them. Bunk turns his attention to Holley, asking if he ran Old Face Andre's sheet, but while Holley admits that Andre is a slimeball, he doesn't think that should negate his statement. Crutchfield gets more aggressive, making the fair point that he doesn't stick his nose into Bunk's old cases, and their anger builds till we get a wonderful exchange: Crutchfield: gently caress you Bunk! Bunk: gently caress you! Crutchfield: gently caress! You! Crutchfield storms off and Bunk turns to look at Holley, who seems somewhat moved by Bunk's protests but has to back his partner, going after him. Outside Cutty's gym, the two dealers from Namond's rival corner snort drugs to pump them up for their confrontation. When they spot Namond exiting the gym they move into action, the younger confronting Namond and shoving him roughly, warning him to stay away from the spot. Namond pushes back, this level of playground confrontation just about his level of physicality, but then takes a punch to the face and immediately backs away in fright, hand shielding his face in horror. Hearing the noise, Cutty pokes his head out the door and spots what looks like a childish scuffle and moves to break it up, complaining they can't bring this kind of thing to his Gym. But when he pulls the dealer away and spots the tell-take signs of his drug use, he immediately changes his tune, lifting his hands and being as non-aggressive as possible, knowing that anything could set him off. He tells Namond to get back inside and gently tells the high-as-a-kite dealer that there is no beef here, and the confused and frightened young man finally breaks off and returns to the car, and they take off. Inside the Gym, Namond's fright has been replaced with a fury. Disgusted with himself, humiliated, he seeks an exterior source to blame and brags to a concerned Michael that there's nothing wrong with him other than a busted lip and he should see the other nigga. Cutty storms in wanting to know what that was all about and Namond insists angrily that he had this all under control and Cutty shouldn't have gotten involved. Cutty reminds him the other boy was high and that would have resulted in anything crazy happening, but Namond - safe now - won't listen to reason and storms away. Concerned, Cutty asks Michael is Namond is involved in something he shouldn't be, and Michael offers a warning in response - it's none of Michael's business... and it's none of Cutty's either.   Carcetti and Norman have an incredibly positive meeting with Royce and Parker at City Hall. Now that the Primary is over, all animosity is gone, and Royce marvels at the campaign that Carcetti ran, laughing about how hard he was hit by the witness story. Carcetti counters with the photoshopped flier of himself with a slum lord, and Royce and Parker slyly acknowledge they were behind it without outright admitting it. Royce warmly invites Carcetti to sit in the Mayor's seat, insisting that if he can't beat the Republican Candidate in the General Election (Baltimore Democrats outnumber Republicans 9-to-1) then he doesn't deserve the job anyway. Carcetti takes the seat and is quickly at home there, explaining to a helpful Royce that he needs to get on top of all the Agencies, Budgets, problems etc that need to be dealt with. Royce says they can call Parker any time to get whatever they need, and Parker nods his agreement. During the conversation it is revealed that D'Agostino is now gone, having returned to DC to return to a national focus within the party, with Norman now Carcetti's Campaign Manager for the actual election itself - an easy job and easy money. In contrast to Old Tony, while Royce admits that being Mayor could be tough, he is going to miss the job. He and Carcetti shake hands, the past and future of Baltimore happily together.... Tony Gray nowhere to be seen, he better hope that his third place showing was strong enough to get him noticed by the State Legislature, or otherwise the price of Tommy's victory was Gray's political career. At Homicide, a pissed-off Greggs is dealing with the eyewitness case that played a large part in Carcetti being elected. She complains to Freamon she wasted her entire day, apparently the jailhouse snitch didn't have anything of value to offer and she is no closer to solving the case than she was at the start of the day. Freamon offers the benefit of his years of experience, suggesting an elegantly simple approach - why not go directly to the man Braddock was witnessing against and flat out ask him if he ordered the hit? Greggs laughs at the idea, but Freamon pushes for it, telling her to see if she can convince him to take a polygraph, maybe by bluffing that the case is going Federal because of the murdered witness angle. It doesn't matter if he passes or fails the test, what matters is that Greggs gets a chance to listen to what he has to say and make up her own mind whether she is pursuing the correct angle or not. In the surveillance van, a confused Herc and Sydnor are looking at their camera feed, which appears to be showing unfocused birds on the screen. It takes a surprisingly long time for the other shoe to drop for Herc, who suddenly realizes what has happened. In a panic he rushes out of the van and up to the playground, followed by Sydnor, and heads to the hole in the wall where he confirms his worst fears - the surveillance camera is gone. The next day, Pearlman is called in to see her new boss - Rupert Bond - who smashed Demper in the election and has come in with a strong mandate. He's meeting with all his Unit Chiefs to get caught up on what is going on, and she admits that there aren't many high profile narcotics cases currently coming in, especially given the state of Major Crimes. Bond impresses her by showing he is up to speed on what is going on, admitting that once it became clear he was going to beat Demper the whispers started to reach him about what was happening politically. Major Crimes was sabotaged by political edict, and he's fully aware of Pearlman's part in issuing the subpeonas on Royce money-men... he thinks she is wasted in Narcotics. Her heart sinks and she prepares to accept her demotion/political exile, and is shocked when he offers her a spot as the new Chief ASA of the Violent Crimes Unit - Carcetti campaigned on lowering the murder rate and so homicides are now going to be the big focus, and he wants her heading it up. What about Ilene Nathan? She's going to be promoted up to Bond's Deputy, and since he admires her courage (if not her loyalty) and he is NOT Demper, he wants to reward her. Whispering Lester's name in disbelief - she thought following his lead would wreck her career, instead it has taken her to new heights - she happily accepts the offer, and shakes the hand of new boss, feeling a wonderful sense that finally things are going to be better. Like with Carcetti, it won't be too long till the hollowness of these big promises becomes apparent. At Edward Tilghman, Prez gets some welcome news that is unfortunately far too late. Donnelly informs him that Tiff has now changed her story, admitting the sex was consensual and that it was with Paul and Monell only - Randy wasn't involved. His suspension has been lifted and he will be back in class tomorrow, but unfortunately the murder investigation is another matter entirely, and it's up to the police what happens with that. The students arrive and immediately notice the new 5th edition text books, and Prez heads down the rows of tables checking on homework - some haven't done it because they didn't get it, others have done it (like Michael and Kwanese), and in one comical situation Calvin has copied Kwanese's work.... right down to putting HER name on the sheet! After establishing the students have their new textbooks, he tells them to put them away and picks up the dice, ready to trick them into eagerly learning maths. The students in Prez's class are rowdy but they ARE paying attention, and there is a very good reason why. The usual troublemakers have been removed and are now in Parenti's class, where they buck and make noises but find themselves unable to get the reaction they normally do. Two female specialists have joined the class, one leading the teaching while the other observes and points out things to Colvin, and both take notes on everything that happens. Namond in particular is upset that every little thing he does to try and get a rise just leads to an observation being noted, and is gleeful when a girl named Chandra loses her temper and is escorted out of the class, thinking she is going to be suspended. Colvin is amused, and suggests he may be disappointed soon enough, this really isn't a regular class. Greggs has followed up on Freamon's advice and convinced Ilene Nathan to go along with the bluff against Wardell, who they suspect ordered the murder of Braddock. Represented by Levy, an agreement has been made that the contents of the polygraph are NOT legally admissible but that Wardell is going along as part of a proffer with a limited grant of immunity. They start with a baseline test, but Wardell has a little trouble understanding he is supposed to ONLY answer yes and offers too much information... but like Freamon said, at least he is talking and giving Greggs a chance to listen.   A chastened Chandra returns to the class and is given a sheet to complete a short essay. Namond is bored and refusing to take part, and when he's told he'll have to leave class if he doesn't behave he eagerly leaps up and tells everybody he'll see them in three days. When he's informed he isn't being suspended he pathetically tosses a chair aside and curses her out, and throws his hands out for cuffs from the approaching security guard. They insist that this won't be necessary though and still won't suspend him, and rather hilariously (and without any self-awareness) Namond and then the rest of the class begin to complain that they have to suspend him, it's the rules.... you have to follow the rules! At the court house, the polygraph technician refuses to give a straight answer to the question of whether Wardell failed the test or not, stressing that he can make the results read whichever way they want him to. Norris explains that the whole reason they use the tests is for leverage, to get the suspect in and gently caress with them, and a pissed off Greggs complains there is a reason these things are legally inadmissible! She heads in to see Levy and Wardell, where Levy reveals that he is fully aware of what is going on and Greggs pretends she has no idea what he is talking about. He explains that he agreed to let Wardell do this because with Braddock dead the case against Wardell is weak and he wants to avoid him having to face a Federal Court if he can avoid it (the smart Levy did fall for their Federal bluff)... and anyway, no matter how the technician fudges it, Kima now knows that Wardell passed the test. When Wardell sullenly says he didn't kill Braddock, Kima gets her chance to just flat out ask him for his take on things. Demonstrating the various complications of life and the dangers of oversimplifying somebody as good or bad, Wardell explains that he couldn't kill Braddock even if he was testifying against him, because they've known each other since they were kids and their mothers are cousins. This charge is his first and he knows the maximum he can face for it is 7 years, and that means he'd be out in 3.5.... and there's no way in hell he would kill his mother's cousin's boy over something like 3.5 years. Holding back his emotions as best as he can, Wardell admits that even though Braddock was going to testify against him, he's actually sorry he is dead, and complains about "that man" getting voted in as Mayor partly because of the accusation that Wardell ordered the murder. And there's the rub, you know. The witness, the drug dealer, it's easy to define them by these roles and not even think about them as human, but there is a deeper, more complex story/background there than the simple narrative that Carcetti presented. The implication was that the dealer was an Avon Barksdale level kingpin cynically ordering assassinations from his prison cell, but he was just some poor low level dealer facing a short incarceration with an emotional, familial connection to the victim. Bunk catches up with Ilene Nathan and reminds her of Omar Little and his help with the Bird trial, and explains the situation he is currently in. Nathan reminds him she offered help with a light felony and asks how the rest of Homicide feels about Bunk sticking his nose into their cases. But just like Bunk got under Omar's skin in the past, Omar has gotten under Bunk's skin now, and he pushes for her help. He isn't asking her to get him off of the homicide, but to move him to a County Detention Facility, which will at least allow Bunk time to investigate the case further. She eventually agrees, telling him to pick up the writ from her office, and instructing him to tell Omar that her debt to him is now paid.   I included these images because the card represents far more than just a card - it's a promise of doing the right thing. Back in season 2, Nathan gave it to Omar in recognition of him helping her do the right thing and put Bird away for a long time. Earlier in this episode, Omar offered it to Bunk who took it as a symbolic gesture that he was going to do the right thing and get (known murderer) Omar off of being charged for a murder he did NOT commit. Now it represents Nathan's acceptance of that original promise she made. In all three cases, people involved did things they didn't really want to do, but they did it because they knew it was right. It's that golden rule - Omar did unto others by assisting the police and the ASA, and now they're doing the same for him. At a COMSTAT meeting, Daniels is giving a presentation on stats in the Western District, and it makes for good news. He's seen a 14% drop in homicides, but he openly admits he has seen a 2% increase in Uniform Crime Reporting, and he says he doesn't want to take credit for the 14% drop. Burrell and Rawls ask why and Rawls is amused when Daniels admits he was told a long time back that if you take credit for a decrease in crime you also have to take the blame for any increase. He's interrupted by the arrival of Carcetti, who insists he is only here as a Councilman and not the Mayor-Elect, but immediately makes a political statement by ignoring Burrell and taking a seat beside Rawls, shaking his hand in the process. Daniels returns to his presentation and Carcetti listens with great interest as Daniels unwillingly makes a fantastic first impression. Explaining how he has identified the worst of his drug corners and aggressively pushed 2-man patrol cars to work them, he has managed to "push" the crime away. When Burrell questions why he has only "pushed" them, Daniels explains that he isn't relying on street level rips but building quality felony cases, and goes so far as to say that many of his men are unsuited to deeper investigations. Burrell jumps on this, is he insulting his command? Daniels is brutally honest, the years of street rips have been good for stats but poor for teaching the finer nuances of "real" police work. Daniels is able to get away with this honesty because his work is seeing results in the Western, but one has to wonder how he would have handled things if he'd known exactly how much of an impact this response would have. Because Carcetti is listening, and Carcetti - who considers Burrell a Royce man - is VERY interested in this relatively young, talented black commander who is demonstrating an understanding of the problems with the police force and showing a way to deal with them. Bubbles takes another beating from the big addict, having tried to hide his money and pretend he had nothing to offer. He's watched from the corner by Namond and his crew, who comment with half-interest on the beating before moving to the important business of the day. They had been meant to start about lunch time, but Namond wasn't able to get out of school, complaining that his new class is hosed up and everything is done backwards. The foul-mouthed little Kenard insists no school could hold him, and complains further that this new location is poo poo compared to where they were last time, dismissing Namond's protests that it's just as good. Namond of course doesn't want to admit that he has been scared off of the corner by the other crew, and warns Kenard that if he doesn't like it then he can gently caress off and Namond won't have to worry about paying him. Kenard falls into line, but not without a grumpy little,"Sheeeeit," to finish off. Herc, panicked by the loss of the camera, has rushed to the one person he has always been able to rely on to cover his rear end - Carver. Both Sergeants now, Carver - who got his rank through sneaky means - has matured while Herc has stayed in the same place. Carver says as much, not wanting to get involved and pissed off that Herc took the $4200 camera without approval from his supervisor, complaining that this is an enabling relationship. "Enable me, Carv," replies Herc,"Enable me to find my loving camera." Carver sighs and asks what Herc has done to get the camera back? Has he checked all the pigeon coops he can find? Yes. Has he checked the pawn stores? Yes. If he knows that Marlo is responsible, what does he have on Marlo he can use? Herc's pathetic reply is that he knows Marlo is a drug dealer, exasparating Carver who must be finding this conversation exhausting. Marlo's name does ring a bell though, and he belatedly remembers that his conversation with Randy brought up Lex, who Bunk was looking for, and he was supposed to call the Detective to let him know. He starts to make the call now but Herc stops him, complaining that his issues need to be dealt with, and Carver makes a decision that he will always regret - he agrees to let Herc debrief Randy first so he can take the murder to Marimow, which will please him enough that he will probably let the camera slide. Even then, disaster might have been averted if not for what happened next, as Carver calls Homicide anyway and leaves a message for Bunk to call him back. But the message was taken by Crutchfield, still pissed at Bunk for sticking his nose in the Omar case, and the Detective throws the message away. For want of a nail, a kingdom is lost. At his campaign headquarters, Carcetti's strategy session with Norman, Gerry and Odell Watkins isn't concerned with the Republican Candidate, but with what team MAYOR Carcetti will put together. First on his list is dumping Burrell, but in this the Mayor-elect is already frustrated as the others explain the realities to him. Royce didn't dump Burrell when Watkins first suggested it because he didn't want to offend the Ministers, and he isn't going to do it now because he has higher office in mind. One reason for his positive meeting with Carcetti earlier is that he's planning to take a run for a Congressional Seat, and he's still going to need the support of Baltimore's black ministers. Carcetti can't fire Burrell because of the terrible visual of the new white Mayor firing the old black Police Commissioner, and there is nobody of color high enough in the BPD to replace him. They could do a nationwide search, but most Deputies in other cities earn more than a Commissioner does in Baltimore, and Carcetti makes the point - why would anybody black with talent stay in Baltimore? Norman muses that he's often asked himself just that question. So much to his consternation, Tommy eats his first bowl of poo poo - he'll have to keep Burrell. Carver brings Randy to see Herc and Sydnor, telling them to look after him and get him home before 9 as his suspension ends tonight. He reminds Herc to take Randy to see Bunk after he's done with him, notes that Randy is a good kid and then glares at the boy as if to warn him not to prove him wrong. Once he's gone, Herc suggests they get something to eat, and then demonstrates just what a fantastic, "real police" he is:   Carcetti goes on a ride-along in the Southern District with some uniformed officers, dismissing the offer to ride with the Lieutenant and attempting to endear himself with the base troops by saying he wouldn't see anything real if he went with one of the bosses. The officers compliment him, saying it's nice to have a Mayor who will understand what they deal with on a daily/nightly basis. Randy eats Popeyes Chicken in an interrogation room, where Herc gradually loses his cool as he realizes that what Randy is offering isn't the headshot "all the work has been done for you" affair he was hoping for. Randy gives him a wealth of information, but to Herc it all boils down to,"A guy told me to tell a guy to go to a place and then the first guy told me some other guys killed him." Randy can't offer a surname for Little Kevin, he can only provide hearsay, and his insistence that "everybody" knows that Chris and Snoop were the killers is useless. Of course he could use all that to build a case, but that isn't how Herc rolls, and he begins angrily shouting at Randy trying to insist that he is an eyeball witness, just admit it, give him the easy answers he wants so he can just arrest Chris and Snoop! Sydnor has to calm him down, while Randy calmly faces up to all of it, Herc not even knowing that his school problems with Tiff have been resolved and that he can't use that leverage to get what he wants. Herc's frustration is only increased by Randy eagerly offering that some people claim Chris and Snoop turn their victims into zombies, but he knows that isn't true! The two officers stop for a meal and discuss Carcetti's first days on the job, though he has to remind them again that he still has the actual General Election to win and even then he doesn't take office till December. He asks them what they would suggest to fix the city, and one offers that they just bomb a large section of the city with white phosphorous, insisting to his laughing partner that he's serious and talking about how his brother in Fallujah used it. A call of shots fired comes over the radio and they take off, telling the Mayor that now he is going to see some poo poo. Greggs is going over the case with Norris, and she's hit on something that is puzzling her, the absence of noise. Just like Sherlock Holmes solved a case when he realized a dog didn't bark at an intruder, Greggs is fascinated by the fact that nobody heard the gunshots that killed Braddock. Norris is still on the Wardell angle though, saying their next move is to go back through his visitor list, and Greggs comes to a conclusion. Standing up, she tells Norris that if Landsman comes looking, she's on the street, and sets off the scratch the itch that is bothering her. Herc and Sydnor are driving Randy home, having forgotten completely that they were supposed to take him to see Bunk. When Randy realizes they're so oblivious that they're going to drop him right off outside his home, he asks them to drop him off so he can walk and not be seen with the police. Distracted, Herc agrees and watches him go, complaining that Carver has wasted his time and suggesting that they just gently caress all the subtle poo poo and go straight at Marlo. Carcetti observes the crime scene, where Major Daniels has taken complete control and is relaying instructions by phone, demonstrating a complete and total knowledge of every aspect of the scene and laying out a plan of action for multiple officers and detectives. It's an impressive display, completely lacking in politicking or grandstanding, just a severely competent man managing a situation with talent and authority. He asks why the Western District Commander is here and they explain he's the Duty Officer for the evening, and when Carcetti says he seems to know his business, they offer that he's "better than some."   The next day, Greggs gets to experience for herself the benefit of "Soft Eyes" as she reviews the crime scene for herself, getting to understand the difference between looking at pictures and actually walking around the scene. As she reconstructs the murder in her mind, she observes things missed in the initial search of the scene - bullet holds in pieces of junk in the alley, a ricochet off of a wall, broken bottles on the ground leading far up the alley beyond the scope of the crime scene. Approaching a shot up cabinet she extracts a bullet from the wood and heads up to a house, where she finds potatos with their innards blown out lying on the ground. Loud music plays from the home and the sound of arguing voices can be heard, and she approaches carefully, gun drawn, announcing herself before slowly entering the home of who she suspects to be the shooter. At Edward Tilghman, Donnelly is going over the "truancy" program with Cutty and the other "janitor" but he can't deal with it anymore. Thanking her for the opportunity, he says that he can't be involved in the program that just involves bringing in a kid for a day. He suggests that if he could actually work with the kids.... but that goes down like a lead balloon, so he just thanks Donnelly again and heads out, bumping into Grace Sampson on the way. Delighted to see each other, she explains she transferred to this school last year and demonstrates she is aware of his Gym program, asking if that is why he is here. He says it was for something else that didn't work out, and after sharing another moment of smiling happily at his old flame, he offers her the same kind words she last offered him, telling her to "be well" before he moves on..... Cutty is at peace with that part of his past at least.   Namond has been removed from class to talk with the specialist for his disruptive behavior but, having realized that he can't get a rise from them verbally, he has resorted to furious fuming and refusal to answer any of her questions. Colvin has asked if he can take a swing at things, and sits down across from Namond and explains to him that he isn't going to get his way until he learns to behave. Namond does react at last, answering every Colvin comment with a furious,"gently caress YOU!", but Colvin calmly explains that he isn't getting out of the room and isn't getting out of school. He starts to leave, and Namond meekly, respectfully says,"Mr. Colvin, sir? ............... gently caress YOU!" A sad Colvin returns to the class where the short Albert is furiously, obscenely shouting out his defiance to the other specialist teacher. Colvin joins Parenti, saying that this is going to be more difficult than he thought, while Parenti is enthralled by all the data he is gathering. In Prez's class, Randy has joined in the dice games being eagerly played by the rest of the class, and loses (monopoly!) money on a bet against Michael. After being reminded that Randy missed the first lesson, he explains to Randy about how odds work - there are only 3 ways to make a 4 but 6 ways to make a 7, so he should have bet against the 4 being rolled. Randy hangs on every word, and when Prez gets up he shares a smile with an excited Dukie who has got the computer working. Spotting Grace Sampson watching from the door, he joins her and explains that they're learning... he just had to trick them into thinking they weren't. Bubbles spots Sherrod sitting on a stoop and approaches, where he uncomfortably makes his apologies to Sherrod and admits that it was a mistake to think he knew him better than he knew himself. Sherrod's sniffing sets off warning bells for him though as he realizes Sherrod is now taking some of the product he is selling, and warns him of the dangers of it. He asks him to come "home" with him so they can sort it out, but Sherrod can't leave till 8 when he gets paid, and a more worried than ever Bubbles heads away after exacting a promise that he will return to their shack a little after 8pm. At Homicide, a safe and sound Kima is collecting paperwork when Norris arrives with a new suspect to interrogate, only to be told that the Braddock case is down, she's solved it. He doesn't believe it, but she hands over the paperwork and mocking shows him the gun, noting that veteran Detectives like him call this a "murder weapon". He looks in on the suspect, who is casually smoking, and she explains she pulls sluged from his property that match the one in the victim. There was nothing intentional, he was shooting off his gun at empty bottles using a potato silencer and a ricochet hit Braddock far away. To Norris' great disgust he realizes that the eyewitness angle was a complete coincidence, and yet because of it Carcetti is now the Mayor. As Greggs heads away he belatedly calls out his compliments on her work, but she doesn't need it, merely commenting to herself,"Soft eyes." She was overwhelmed when she first came into Homicide, but now she knows she is as good if not better than the other Detectives there - she belongs now. Bubbles returns to his home late that night, eagerly opening the doors and calling to Sherrod.... but there's nobody there. He staggers to his bed and drops to the mattress, biting at his thumb - completely alone, hurting from a beating, and his protege lost to him. Kima is on top of the world, and Bubbles is near rock bottom.  
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Link for the OP: Episode 5 - Alliances Episode 6 - Margin of Error Episode 7 - Unto Others
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As a pretty good deal notice, I was able to buy the wire the complete series DVDs on Amazon com last night. They were 50 percent off and then by applying for an Amazon credit card (which I'm just gonna use for Kindle purchases anyway) I was given a $50 gift certificate which brought the cost down to about $60. I swear this isn't some sort of viral advertising.
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Sep 7, 2013 13:09
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As a teacher I can somewhat relate to the Prez thing. Seems no one even bothered to tell him there was a resource room to look in. I have been in a school once which still had USSR in the atlases they used but we were not using them every other day like you would a maths textbook!
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Jerusalem posted:Season 4, Episode 7: Unto Others Speaking of "Soft Eyes", a veteran Wire Episode Transcriber such as yourself should have picked up on Sherrod being one of the two corner boys from Namond's rival crew. He was the one to confront Namond outside the gym that Cutty placated to leave.
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Sep 7, 2013 18:32
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3spades posted:Speaking of "Soft Eyes", a veteran Wire Episode Transcriber such as yourself should have picked up on Sherrod being one of the two corner boys from Namond's rival crew. He was the one to confront Namond outside the gym that Cutty placated to leave. It's an easy detail to miss. I like how The Wire has these odd but ultimately meaningless connections between characters, like Jimmy sleeping with Terry D'Agostino in season 3, or Cheese being Randy's father. Speaking of minor details, notice how Herc gets fried chicken for Randy, later, when he's trying to mend things with Bubbles, he gets him chicken and a grape soda. The incident with the minister may have been a trumped up charge on the racism front but that doesn't mean Herc is good in that department... Re: the new equipment lying ignored in the basement - I interpret it as basically the bureaucracy being so adapted to a certain form of teaching/policing that they saw no use for it (I think this was the case with the "Triggerfish" machine in season 3 - since the MCU is apparently the only unit doing large scale wire taps, it's not surprising that a machine meant to assist with it is lying in the basement). It could also just be a case of bureaucracies' inefficient communication - like we saw to tragic extent in season 2. The Feds gave the BPD useful surveillance equipment but apparently didn't tell them what they should use it for; maybe something similar happened with the textbooks (without the curriculum being changed around the books and computers, the school "couldn't" use it - I wonder if it was unrealistic that Prez didn't get in trouble for individually deciding to use different resources.) grading essays nude fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Sep 8, 2013 |
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Sep 7, 2013 21:58
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3spades posted:Speaking of "Soft Eyes", a veteran Wire Episode Transcriber such as yourself should have picked up on Sherrod being one of the two corner boys from Namond's rival crew. He was the one to confront Namond outside the gym that Cutty placated to leave. Ahhhhh loving gently caress a duck a gently caress-faced fucker gently caress! 
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Jerusalem posted:Ahhhhh loving gently caress a duck a gently caress-faced fucker gently caress! Whoa. Did you write for the show or something?
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Sep 8, 2013 03:20
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Frostwerks posted:Whoa. Did you write for the show or something? I wish. I dream of the day I can think up something as clever as,"gently caress you, you cheese-faced bitch!"
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Sep 8, 2013 04:27
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cletepurcel posted:
Speaking from personal experience in government bureaucracy, chances are those items fell through the cracks because at a chronically underfunded/understaffed school like Tilghman Middle whoever's in charge of cataloging those items probably has a million other more important things to do just to keep the place running day to day, assuming that whoever it was didn't just fail to let whoever replaced them know about it when they inevitably transferred out/quit education altogether. In the case of stuff like new computers, again being a broke school, they would likely have been bought for them through a grant handled at the city/county/state level, with the likelihood of miscommunication over what it is and why it's there being pretty high. poo poo happens fairly often in real life. The thing with being in an impoverished area is its agencies and institutions pretty much get first crack at grant money; in a lot of cases that's how they manage to fund a lot of services to begin with since they don't have the tax base to fund them on their own. Schools in particular in chronic poverty areas get the majority of their funding through federal agencies, a lot of that coming in the form of grants, which are often very specific about what the money is to be spent on, and often subject to the whims of whoever's in charge of disbursing the money which means what money they do have to work with they have very little control over, so you'll get absurd poo poo like poor rural schools with smart boards in every class and a computer lab full of brand new Macs, but they can't open until mid-September because they can't afford to fix the air conditioning. Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Sep 8, 2013 |
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Sep 8, 2013 06:21
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That makes a lot of sense (well it doesn't, but you know what I mean), thanks for the clarification. It's loving insane that poo poo like this happens, but it does, and not in isolated cases.
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It's also a system extremely prone to abuse, especially in the case of block grants, which is essentially handing giant cartoon bags of taxpayer cash to corrupt administrators and telling them to go hog wild. When it's done right with strict phase restrictions and clawback provisions, it makes a perverse kind of sense because it forces the recipient to have a clear project goal which they're accountable for, and for getting specific things done it works a lot faster than the usual budget appropriations process and largely avoids the thumb on the scale fuckery that goes with it, which incidentally is where the real Clay Davises make their living. But for general funding yeah it's the stupidest goddamned thing ever, but like I said for impoverished agencies like schools it's often some of the only money they can count on.
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Jerusalem posted:I wish. I dream of the day I can think up something as clever as,"gently caress you, you cheese-faced bitch!" I know its crude but with the way its delivered and who is saying it, "gently caress you cheese-faced Bitch" is one of the best lines in the show for me.
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Alan Sepinwall and Dan Feinberg talk about The Wire's pilot episode in their latest podcast: Link Skip to 01:03:40 to avoid breaking Bad spoilers. Says on the page but just to be sure. It's a pretty good conversation and if I could sum their views up in one sentence it would be "the show throws you into the deep in with cement shoes".
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What does somebody like Slim Charles make? Anybody have any idea? Do they actually pay him a salary or is it just like whatever you need just come and ask?
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Yates posted:What does somebody like Slim Charles make? Anybody have any idea? Do they actually pay him a salary or is it just like whatever you need just come and ask? When he works with Avon as a soldier, I'd say enough to make a decent living and with a large payout whenever he kills someone or protects drug transfers, doing whatever muscle has to do. When he works with Joe he seems to be probably high enough to get "points of the package", AKA getting a percentage of the drugs sold. So I guess something like maybe $50,000 a year as a soldier and something close to $100,000 when he worked with Joe? But of course it would change with individual examples. Wee-Bey was probably the fourth most paid member of the Barksdale organization at it's heyday (third if you don't count Levy as a member of the organization) and Chris came second after Marlo. Not out of the possibility that they were earning money in the mid-six figures. Might be less though, but with their bosses being literally millionnaires and aside from Stringer, not really finding that many outlets for their money, I figure they had lee-way (and reason, these guys could put them in for life at any moment) to be generous.
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DarkCrawler posted:When he works with Avon as a soldier, I'd say enough to make a decent living and with a large payout whenever he kills someone or protects drug transfers, doing whatever muscle has to do. When he works with Joe he seems to be probably high enough to get "points of the package", AKA getting a percentage of the drugs sold. So I guess something like maybe $50,000 a year as a soldier and something close to $100,000 when he worked with Joe? Haha, I was just about to come in and say that Slim probably got points on the crews he led over Hilltop with Joe after the fall of the Barksdale Empire. It's part of why he complains about losing a few crews to Marlo's package at the co-op, he's losing money! Also, we're getting really close to one of the funniest moments in these last few episodes when Namond gets picked up to go to baby-booking and he starts getting wigged out. Namond:"Yo, West Side be beefing wit the East Side. Boys be getting raped up in there" Carver: *wide eyed* "I, uhhh, I don't think it's that bad"
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Boywhiz88 posted:It's part of why he complains about losing a few crews to Marlo's package at the co-op, he's losing money! That sentimental motherfucker!
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Skeesix posted:That sentimental motherfucker! Not IN the show itself, but Method Man googling himself after his character dies and finding out that EVERYBODY was celebrating his death was loving hilarious.
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Sep 10, 2013 22:35
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He choose money over family. Nobody likes that. Especially because the way that Prop Joe looked out for him.
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Jerusalem posted:Not IN the show itself, but Method Man googling himself after his character dies and finding out that EVERYBODY was celebrating his death was loving hilarious. Please tell me you have the link for this
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Sep 10, 2013 22:45
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Boywhiz88 posted:Please tell me you have the link for this Best I've seen is this quote:Method Man: I always went online to see the reactions that people would have after someone got killed. Snoop, when she got killed, oh you should’ve seen it. You would’ve thought somebody really died. Like it was a funeral happening: “RIP Snoop, we gon’ miss you,” and all this craziness. They were just two lines short of making “In Memory Of” T-Shirts. Same thing with Omar. Stringer, same thing. Then when I die, it’s like “good for him. They should’ve killed his rear end sooner.”
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DarkCrawler posted:When he works with Avon as a soldier, I'd say enough to make a decent living and with a large payout whenever he kills someone or protects drug transfers, doing whatever muscle has to do. When he works with Joe he seems to be probably high enough to get "points of the package", AKA getting a percentage of the drugs sold. So I guess something like maybe $50,000 a year as a soldier and something close to $100,000 when he worked with Joe? So you really can go a long ways in this country killing black folk. Young males especially.
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There's a point in season 3 where Avon says to Slim (or was it Stringer who said it? I think it was Avon),"Time for you to earn that money we're paying you." I got the sense he was being VERY well paid just for being in charge of the muscle, regardless of whatever else was going on - if he was being called on to do stuff or not, he was still being paid a large amount of money. Remember that the Barksdales had lost ALL their top level muscle so they NEEDED Slim (Stringer would probably disagree) to come in and run things for them - a skilled head enforcer could make a hell of a lot of money stepping into that vacuum.
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So what I was saying earlier about underfunded schools shutting down due to lack of air conditioning: http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/education/blog/bs-md-co-schools-close-20130911,0,7890733.story quote:Baltimore City and Baltimore County public schools will close two hours early Wednesday because temperatures are expected to be above 90 degrees.
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"Forty percent of the county's schools do not have air conditioning." No child left behind.
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Jerusalem posted:There's a point in season 3 where Avon says to Slim (or was it Stringer who said it? I think it was Avon),"Time for you to earn that money we're paying you." Probably some kind of retainer with bonuses for each head.
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Jerusalem posted:"Forty percent of the county's schools do not have air conditioning." This sure adds a dark spin to the part where Donnelly turns up the heat in all the classrooms so the kids get drowsy (and thus more 'attentive'.)
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DarkCrawler posted:When he works with Avon as a soldier, I'd say enough to make a decent living and with a large payout whenever he kills someone or protects drug transfers, doing whatever muscle has to do. When he works with Joe he seems to be probably high enough to get "points of the package", AKA getting a percentage of the drugs sold. So I guess something like maybe $50,000 a year as a soldier and something close to $100,000 when he worked with Joe? If we were to compare the Barksdale organization to a Mexican Cartel like Los Zetas or the Sinaloa Cartel, then I think those salaries could be on point. Small, local gangs are probably more like this: http://www.streetgangs.com/academic/gangfinance.pdf If I read this correctly, these are 1995 numbers
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Jerusalem posted:"Forty percent of the county's schools do not have air conditioning." The county, which is separate from the City of Baltimore, is also significantly whiter and a little bit wealthier to boot.
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geeves posted:If we were to compare the Barksdale organization to a Mexican Cartel like Los Zetas or the Sinaloa Cartel, then I think those salaries could be on point. This reminds me of a little detail that always bugs me: in season 1, Lester and Jimmy run the numbers and estimate the Barksdales' earnings as astronomical. Yet when Marlo sells the connect to the Co-Op for just $10M, they seem to have trouble getting the money together at first (leading to the aforementioned hilarious Cheese death scene). And this is a co-op of several kingpins - Cheese even says "anyone not making that kind of money need be ashamed". Is it just that most of their money isn't easily accessible, or something? I can't remember if I've asked this before. Even if it's an inconsistency though it's more than worth it for the Cheese death scene.
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cletepurcel posted:This reminds me of a little detail that always bugs me: in season 1, Lester and Jimmy run the numbers and estimate the Barksdales' earnings as astronomical. Yet when Marlo sells the connect to the Co-Op for just $10M, they seem to have trouble getting the money together at first (leading to the aforementioned hilarious Cheese death scene). And this is a co-op of several kingpins - Cheese even says "anyone not making that kind of money need be ashamed". Is it just that most of their money isn't easily accessible, or something? Avon was a huge fish at that point. He had all the towers locked down - usually a big crew would hold down at most a few spots in those towers. Then the towers got busted down. Avon still had some premium real estate, but he was pretty diminished by the start of season 3. Cheese could only claim that kind of money because at that point he had taken on all of Prop Joe's organization - oh, and Hungry Man's too. Least that's how I interpret it.
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