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Quick review of my new ThinkPad T530 after the first 24 hours! It has the cheaper i5 processor and 12 GB of RAM (I added 8 GB to the 4 GB of factory RAM), and it still has the factory HDD (the adapter hasn't arrived yet to sub in my SSD). - This sucker is pretty fast already. I can't wait to see what having an SSD does to it. - The 1920x1080 screen is sharp, pretty, and does an excellent job of displaying deep blacks and color. The viewing angles are very good. However, Windows scaling is as terrible as everyone says, so everything is really small. Fortunately, Google Chrome's scaling is actually pretty good, so I have that scaled up to 125%. The end result is that everything in my browser window (where I am 90% of the time) looks fine, and everything else (including the browser window itself, such as the tabs and bookmarks bar) is tiny. However, the adjustment process isn't taking too long. I'm sure I'll become accustomed to it within a month. Stupid Windows. - The keyboard is pretty good. It's a similar layout but a totally different form factor from my previous keyboard, so there's an adjustment process at work here, as well. The major problems I'm experiencing are the Fn and Ctrl keys being switched around on the bottom-left corner, and the arrow keys being smaller than I'm used to. - Audio is unremarkable, which isn't necessarily a bad thing for a laptop. The webcam is also average. - Perhaps I don't know what to look for, but this thing came remarkably free of bloatware. Uninstalling Norton was a breeze, and I replaced it with avast. Looking at the installed programs, the only ones that jump out at me as possible bloatware are Evernote, Nitro Pro 8, SugarSync Manager, and Corel WinDVD. - I've seen complaints online about the 9-cell battery feeling too "loose" , but it really doesn't. I can kinda see what they're saying, but this is something that is only noticeable relative to the tremendous build quality of everything else. If this were a regular laptop, people probably wouldn't notice it. - I don't know what ThinkVantage is, but it seems pretty nifty. I'll have to look around to see how best to put it to use. - The build quality on this thing just feels incredible. I feel like I could hurl it at a brick wall without breaking it. - I haven't done anything CPU or GPU intensive on it, so I can't speak to the performance of either of those. However, just in normal use, the temperature hasn't changed at all and this thing is dead silent. I have little doubt that my biggest problem with this laptop will be the fact that I live in a rural area and my internet connection is mediocre. I have no regrets about this purchase, this is a rock-solid laptop. If you were as disappointed with the Haswell ThinkPads as I was, go with a T530 instead.
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Bob Morales posted:I pulled a X60 out of a closet the other day and the screen was equal, if not a little better, to what the T430 uses to this day. My old x61t has a 1400x1050 IPS screen. Honestly, if they just made another one with updated silicon, or even better took the screen and put it in a non-tablet x61, it would be an amazing computer.
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Things are small at 1920x1080 on a 15.6" screen? Personally I think that looks fine unscaled. Anyway how specialised are laptop displays in general? Is there any chance that a 1080p T440s screen could be made to work in a T430s?
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Since it hasn't been talked about recently, HD4000 has no problem pushing 1080, right? edit: See, that's what I was thinking, but I wasn't sure. drat that X1 is singing to me. The 14" form factor is really important to me. I want this to be my best friend in school, work and home, but I carry enough around to care about how fat my friends are. I was originally set on the 430 but every-time I think of that screen and what could be, I start looking at other models. P.N.T.M. fucked around with this message at 05:37 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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It can do even more. It handles 2880x1800 on the Macbook Pro Retina.
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I bought a 13" MBA a few weeks ago, and I couldn't be happier with it. I've never used OSX before, but at this moment I don't think I recommend anything else to someone that needed a good laptop and could afford it.
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I just got my T530 with the HD+(1600x900) display, and Intel HD4000. One thing I'm noticing with the display is a blue hue to it. I tried messing with win7's color correction settings, but I just couldn't get the levels right. It's almost like the screen is running at a lower temp than I'm used to. Has anyone had similar experiences? I usually get use to various displays pretty quickly, but I'd like to improve it if possible.
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E30User posted:I just got my T530 with the HD+(1600x900) display, and Intel HD4000. One thing I'm noticing with the display is a blue hue to it. I tried messing with win7's color correction settings, but I just couldn't get the levels right. It's almost like the screen is running at a lower temp than I'm used to. Has anyone had similar experiences? I usually get use to various displays pretty quickly, but I'd like to improve it if possible. If it's too blue, then it would actually be running at a higher temp than what you're used to. You can look for a matching color profile online, and you can also mess with the color settings in the display driver itself.
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HA suck it Samsung you worthless piece of poo poo. Bye bye "LCDModeChecker" in program data>Samsung. Hey you know what would be super neat Samsung, not having poo poo like that in the first place I sort of like my display to look good even when on the battery.
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So my Y410p arrived a few hours ago. In that time I've replaced the HDD with an SSD, slapped the HDD into the ultrabay slot, freshly installed windows 8 on the SSD, and installed a bunch of stuff. A lot of people in the thread have asked for guides on doing this kind of thing with the Y410p/Y510p, so here it is: First of all, start your laptop normally. Make sure that everything is actually working before you do anything. If you've never booted it before, go ahead and go through the normal Windows 8 startup screens and get the laptop into a normal working state. Before we start There's some preliminary stuff for you to do before we really get started. Get these things: 1) A screwdriver 2) A Windows 8 DVD or ISO file (it's okay if you just torrent this; you own a Windows 8 license, downloading software that you own a license to is legal, free and clear). The Y410p comes with the core version of Windows 8, so if you try to install Pro or some other version then it won't work. The key is embedded into the BIOS, you don't need to try to retrieve it Creating a bootable Windows 8 USB stick (skip if you're using a DVD or burning an ISO to a DVD) This is incredibly easy. Are you ready? 1) Get a USB stick. It'll need to be at least a 4GB stick (which means ~ 3.5GB effectively) 2) Reformat it as FAT32. Right click on Computer --> Manage --> Disk Management --> right click on your USB drive --> Format --> Select FAT32 3) Mount your Windows 8 ISO. If you have a DVD, then this is as simple as inserting it into your DVD drive. If you have an ISO file, then you can Mount ISO files directly by right clicking on them and selecting Mount. If this option is missing for some reason, then right click on the ISO file, select Open With, and select Windows Explorer. Now the Mount option should appear 4) Copy all of the files from your mounted device to the USB stick. That's it. You can boot from the USB stick now, and it will load the Windows 8 installation session. You don't even need to write down a key or anything, the key is read directly from your BIOS. But again, you need to be trying to install a version of Windows 8 that matches up to whatever your laptop came with. For the Y410p/Y510p, that means the core Windows 8, not Windows 8 Pro or any of the other variations. SSD Installation 1) Remove the battery. Flip the laptop over, and you'll see two sliders on either side of the battery. Slide those open and the battery slides out easily. 2) Remove the DVD drive. Looking at the bottom of your laptop, there's a little latch in the middle of the vent. Pull that down and lightly pry the DVD drive out. It should move very easily. 3) Remove the 8 screws on the bottom of your laptop. Use a philips head screwdriver. 4) Remove the bottom panel of your laptop. In addition to the 8 screws, this thing is held in place with some plastic pegs. Use your finger and work around the edge, lightly prying up until eventually you get the entire panel pretty loose. Remove it. See the guts of your laptop. 5) Okay, let's get our bearings. Orient your laptop so that the spot where the battery goes is the "top". On the left is where your optical drive was. At the bottom center you'll see your RAM, in case you want to replace that, and on the bottom left is your hard drive. It's covered by a little metal sheet for some reason. It's also connected to the laptop frame with two screws; remove them and set them aside. Now GENTLY slide the hard drive to the left; there isn't much clearance, we're talking less than half an inch here. Once it's as far to the left as possible, lift it out of the laptop. I had to use my screwdriver as a lever, but at this point it's not actually attached to anything so it should come free easily. 6) This is your 1TB hard drive. It's in a little enclosure. Remove the four screws surrounding the drive and it should easily slide out. 7) Put your SSD in the enclosure. Use the 4 screws and screw it in place. 8) Now reverse steps 1-5. Slide the SSD in its enclosure back into your laptop, and slide it to the right until you feel it gently latching into its connectors. Screw it into place. Re-attach the bottom panel of your laptop. Screw it into place. Put the DVD drive and then the battery back into place. Okay, you've installed your SSD. Let's install Windows 8. Installing Windows 8 1) With your laptop sitting normally, look at the left side next to the power port; see that little button that looks like an undo symbol? Some genius decided that this should be called the "Novo" button and a bunch of his chucklefuck friends went along with it. Press it. Your laptop will boot, but you'll be presented with a screen showing several options. Choose the BIOS option. Scroll right to Security and set Secure Boot to Disabled. Scroll right to Exit and select Exit Saving Changes. 2) Either insert your Windows 8 DVD or USB stick. Reboot. 3) If you did everything right (have the correct version of Windows 8, ie NOT Pro or Enterprise for the Y410p/Y510p) then installation should appear and things will go smoothly. For me the entire process took 5 minutes. You can probably use the Express install, but I went ahead and went through the Custom install and created a partition on my SSD myself. Some say that leaving 20% of your SSD unpartitioned will make it go faster. Technically it's true that leaving ~20% of most SSDs empty will provide a significant performance boost, but you don't have to leave that much unpartitioned, just try not to fill it that much. Windows 8 will create a bunch of additional partitions on your SSD for system files and will get things set up for you. 4) When installation is finished, your system will reboot. When you get a chance, power down your laptop, press the Novo button, enter your BIOS, and Enable Secure Boot. Save and Exit. 5) You'll also want to go get fresh drivers. Go download new NVidia drivers (assuming you're using the Y410p/Y510p) and whatever else from the manufacturer's site. OPTIONAL: Replacing the DVD drive with the 1TB HDD You can replace the DVD drive with the slow 1 TB HDD that we removed. This is a great option for most people, as almost no one uses DVDs anymore but an extra 1TB of slow storage in addition to your SSD is a nice thing to have. You'll need to have a 9.5mm caddy; these are universal now, so basically any of the 9.5mm disk caddies on Amazon or Ebay should work, such as this one. 1) Put the hard drive into the little 9.5mm caddy that you've purchased. They're like $10-15 as of this writing. 2) Remove the battery and optical drive as described above. 3) Slide the hard drive caddy into the empty spot where the DVD drive was. Move it all the way into your laptop. Push it in. Ungh 4) Place the battery back into your laptop. Technically you have two Windows installations now; one on the 1TB drive and one on the SSD. Hopefully when you boot the laptop you'll boot with the Windows 8 installed on the SSD, and then you can just repartition the entire 1TB and not worry about it anymore. If that's not what happens, then you'll have to use the Novo button (stupid loving name) which should let you choose which drive to boot off of. Obviously you want to boot off of the SSD. Go into disk management and delete all of the volumes on the 1TB drive, then partition it. Or don't use the 1TB drive and buy something much bigger, whatever. Some people have difficulty with deleting the volumes on the 1TB drive. If you still have your USB boot stick or DVD, then you can load the Windows 8 installer and delete the volumes there. e: I know that this is a massive post, but I'm really trying to cover all bases here. All of the steps are really easy. If you can pick up and eat a sandwich, then you can install the SSD. Creating a Windows 8 install USB is very easy so long as you follow the instructions. Finding a Windows 8 ISO might be tricky but I'm sure that Google will help you. Installing a HDD into the ultrabay is arguably the easiest part. QuarkJets fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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The T530 seems like a good deal after going through the last few pages of this thread. I want to get a customized one from lenovo.com, but I've been told that shopping there is a bad experience and that I should just find a prebuilt one off Amazon. Is this accurate? Is it a bad idea for me to go straight to the source? Also, does anyone know if the warranty is international? If ever, I'd have it shipped to the Philippines and I really don't want to ship it abroad just to get it fixed.
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Cream_Filling posted:I'd call service because in my experience they've been very generous and don't really care about stuff like that. Xaris posted:Thanks. I'll call but I didn't want to end up shipping it only to have them say "we'll fix it for $700" or something. Yes, this is exactly what happened to me with Lenovo Business support and my old T400 (still within 3 year warranty). e-key stopped working and they claimed it was because of drop damage. They wanted to have 700€ for the replacement of the mainboard. The T400 was worth barely 300-400 euros at that point. If I was to have it sent back it was 100€ service charge. Otherwise they would generously throw it in the trash for me. Don't sent anything to Lenovo if there is even a chance it is not covered by warranty or your laptop is not brand loving new. They are definitly NOT lenient on this (though they picked it up the same day and would have it fixed in a hurry) Edit: I mean I was able to get around the 100 euros by threatening legal action (I would have lost) and a tremendous amount of haggeling, but Lenovo is definitly not a company like Logitech or somesuch, which just sends you a new mouse without asking any questions. Boner Slam fucked around with this message at 12:26 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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First of all, thank you so much QuarkJets. This is exactly what I was going to ask for next. Second, per your instructions, if I have a windows 8 disk, do I need to put the disk data on a usb stick? In the first part quoted below you seem to imply yes, but in the second you imply no. I'd rather not go through the hassle if I don't have to.QuarkJets posted:
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Boner Slam posted:Yes, this is exactly what happened to me with Lenovo Business support and my old T400 (still within 3 year warranty). Lenovo Business support in Europe is different from Thinkpad support in the US, which is run by IBM and is significantly better.
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Argue posted:The T530 seems like a good deal after going through the last few pages of this thread. I want to get a customized one from lenovo.com, but I've been told that shopping there is a bad experience and that I should just find a prebuilt one off Amazon. Is this accurate? Is it a bad idea for me to go straight to the source? I ordered my customized T530 from Lenovo without any problems. Registering a B&N Gold account can be mildly annoying due to website issues, but once you've done that, the rest of the way is pretty clear.
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Socrates16 posted:First of all, thank you so much QuarkJets. This is exactly what I was going to ask for next. Second, per your instructions, if I have a windows 8 disk, do I need to put the disk data on a usb stick? In the first part quoted below you seem to imply yes, but in the second you imply no. I'd rather not go through the hassle if I don't have to. Use your disk e: You don't have to make a boot up USB to install windows. Optiquest fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Sep 21, 2013 |
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I don't know if anyone cares, but on my Dell premier site the XPS 12 has this listed in it's tech specs: CPU: 4th Generation Intel® CoreTM i7-4650U processor (4M Cache, up to 3.3 GHz) LE config Video: Intel® HD Graphics 4400 (5000 for 4650U processor) You can't order one with the 4650U yet but maybe that means one is coming.
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Socrates16 posted:First of all, thank you so much QuarkJets. This is exactly what I was going to ask for next. Second, per your instructions, if I have a windows 8 disk, do I need to put the disk data on a usb stick? In the first part quoted below you seem to imply yes, but in the second you imply no. I'd rather not go through the hassle if I don't have to. If you have a Windows 8 install disk, then just use that. If it's just a recovery disk, that isn't enough.
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Is there any way for me to change my X230's keyboard key rollover from 3 to 4? I want to run diagonally and jump and crouch all at once! I've read that this is hardwired into the keyboard, so basically can I upgrade my keyboard? I know it is a longshot.
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QuarkJets posted:So my Y410p arrived a few hours ago. In that time I've replaced the HDD with an SSD, slapped the HDD into the ultrabay slot, freshly installed windows 8 on the SSD, and installed a bunch of stuff. A lot of people in the thread have asked for guides on doing this kind of thing with the Y410p/Y510p, so here it is: Any pictures? I will go ahead and add this to the OP
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WarpZealot posted:Is there any way for me to change my X230's keyboard key rollover from 3 to 4? I want to run diagonally and jump and crouch all at once! I've read that this is hardwired into the keyboard, so basically can I upgrade my keyboard? I know it is a longshot. This is literally hard wired. Push a key, connect two wires, keyboard controller sends the correct ASCII character to the OS. Cross too many wires and you short out other keys. It's not something you can correct with firmware.
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You can, however, try remapping the controls to use different keys. Oftentimes the circuits are designed to reduce ghosting for the most common key combinations, so rollover can vary based on which keys you're holding down, while modifier keys like control or shift are almost always isolated.
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So, I popped into Bestbuy today, and FYI it's about 50/50 Haswell to Ivy Bridge. Anywho, I tested out a bunch of screens and they're all awful. Getting paranoid about getting the y510p. Do all laptop screens suck in comparison to HDTV's and smartphones?
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Socrates16 posted:So, I popped into Bestbuy today, and FYI it's about 50/50 Haswell to Ivy Bridge. Anywho, I tested out a bunch of screens and they're all awful. Getting paranoid about getting the y510p. Do all laptop screens suck in comparison to HDTV's and smartphones? The Apple ones aren't bad, everything else that isn't retina seems to be crap.
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Socrates16 posted:So, I popped into Bestbuy today, and FYI it's about 50/50 Haswell to Ivy Bridge. Anywho, I tested out a bunch of screens and they're all awful. Getting paranoid about getting the y510p. Do all laptop screens suck in comparison to HDTV's and smartphones? There are still a number of laptops with quality screens. You're not going to find them at the sub-$500 price point, however, and many of them are attached to $1000+ laptops where the extra cost isn't so easily noticed.
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What's the point of these new machines with displays > 1080p? Does that even scale OK on a small screen if you're running Windows? Lenovo is bringing out this thing (new Yoga) with a bonkers resolution of 3200x1800 on a 13" display: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/ideapad/yoga/yoga-2-pro/ So they stuff in a Haswell processor for increased battery life, and then throw four times the pixels at the graphics system of a machine that's supposed to be ultra portable and replace your tablet. I don't get it.
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Local Resident posted:What's the point of these new machines with displays > 1080p? Does that even scale OK on a small screen if you're running Windows? It looks pretty.
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QuarkJets posted:First of all, start your laptop normally. Make sure that everything is actually working before you do anything. If you've never booted it before, go ahead and go through the normal Windows 8 startup screens and get the laptop into a normal working state. Would me pulling out the HDD and putting in an SSD before booting it once account for why it refused to give me any boot options but IPv4 and IPv6? I tried a CD with a burned ISO as well as several different ones on USB, a different computer (some old dell pc I was using at work) was able to select them as boot drives.
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Local Resident posted:What's the point of these new machines with displays > 1080p? Does that even scale OK on a small screen if you're running Windows? Didn't someone earlier ask "Why don't they release a 3200x1800 and just have it be a doubled 1600x900?" Maybe that's what they are doing V(-_-)V
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Local Resident posted:What's the point of these new machines with displays > 1080p? Does that even scale OK on a small screen if you're running Windows? Windows desktop display scaling is still pretty awful, but non-desktop Metro has working display scaling (and compensates for this with lovely font rendering and enormous interfaces). I guess they assume that tablet users will be in metro all the time (ha) or else run at lower resolutions. Because people on the internet like bigger numbers or something, I don't know.
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One more question on the y510p. Yay or nay on the dual graphics cards? I can save 200 bucks(more with tax) if I go without it. I remember 20 pages ago or so that any gaming done for more than a few minutes makes the thing throttle anyway.
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The general consensus is nay. You'll probably get a little more performance out of SLI, but nowhere near 2x, and not $200 worth.
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I don't think that was said by somebody who actually got one and tried it. You can certainly make it throttle if you try to stress every part, but you can see actual comparisons with other laptops' performance at the bottom of this review: See http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y510p-Notebook.97470.0.html
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I bought a 15" Macbook Pro back in 2010(?) with the intention of using it for my film projects and general use. It did the trick just fine and it's still running nicely, but as I'm no longer doing film and will be going to university next year, I'm looking at something lighter and with lesser specs - I feel like I'll be wasting such a laptop if I'm only really using it for taking notes, Netflix and web browsing. The Chromebook Pixel seems to be an appropriate replacement so far, especially since it seems to be going for the Macbook audience in the first place. Seeing as the swap will be done sometime in December or January, would this probably be a good time to pick one up, or is there something around the corner worth waiting for?
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What are you going to university for? The Chromebook Pixel runs ChromeOS, which might not suffice, unless you plan on using Linux.
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shrughes posted:What are you going to university for? The Chromebook Pixel runs ChromeOS, which might not suffice, unless you plan on using Linux. Enrolment hasn't opened up yet, but I'm pretty sure I'll be doing a Bachelor of Arts with Media Studies and English. Asus seem to have some very nice Ultrabooks too, actually...
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I recommend getting something like the ASUS X202E-DB21T.
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Doctor Albatross posted:I bought a 15" Macbook Pro back in 2010(?) with the intention of using it for my film projects and general use. It did the trick just fine and it's still running nicely, but as I'm no longer doing film and will be going to university next year, I'm looking at something lighter and with lesser specs - I feel like I'll be wasting such a laptop if I'm only really using it for taking notes, Netflix and web browsing. Get an Air.
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Doctor Albatross posted:I bought a 15" Macbook Pro back in 2010(?) with the intention of using it for my film projects and general use. It did the trick just fine and it's still running nicely, but as I'm no longer doing film and will be going to university next year, I'm looking at something lighter and with lesser specs - I feel like I'll be wasting such a laptop if I'm only really using it for taking notes, Netflix and web browsing. You're wasting a laptop if you "swap" it with a new one- especially since you already have a great laptop that's capable of what you want to do. I'd suggest you stick with it until it really kicks the bucket, and by then the fantastic new line of Airs will probably be on discount.
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