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steinrokkan posted:Yeah, that's pretty much the best way to ensure his survival. He knows most donors are from far away, and those who want to redeem their reward can explicitly ask him I guess. On the other hand, he should communicate this to the few pledgers who ain't in on our scheme. I just told him that as long as a) Team Frogout gets their frog on the side of the building and b) If any of us ever actually show up there, we'll get a free dog, he can do whatever he pleases with reward dogs / potential savings that came from Team Frogout. Let me know if anyone has an issue with this. I did say that the $100 and $500 contributors probably actually do want their rewards though.
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I went in for $10 just now, and clicked not to take a reward. Reform is about 900 miles away, which is a perfectly reasonable distance to go for a single free hotdog.
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SoundMonkey posted:Also, opinion check: I'm going to tell Wayne to start ditching reward-dogs from the $25-tier until he gets $500 to put the frog on the wall (unless one of the Deep Pockets $500 donators wants to do that) since that was the original purpose of Team Frogout, but considering the concerns raised in the thread about his ability to provide said dogs without going broke, do we want to either ask him to reduce our number of dogs per reward, or are people voluntarily ditching the reward now? (I'm told that's possible.) I don't think we need to do that. Wayne said that if anyone bought all ten $500 rewards he'd give them the entire wall for two years. Team Frogout have assuredly contributed that much. E: Got round to adding my $20 to the hat, no reward requested. Jedit fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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SoundMonkey posted:Also, opinion check: I'm going to tell Wayne to start ditching reward-dogs from the $25-tier until he gets $500 to put the frog on the wall (unless one of the Deep Pockets $500 donators wants to do that) since that was the original purpose of Team Frogout, but considering the concerns raised in the thread about his ability to provide said dogs without going broke, do we want to either ask him to reduce our number of dogs per reward, or are people voluntarily ditching the reward now? (I'm told that's possible.) Honestly, I would LOVE a coupon emailed to me. Not because I'm ever gonna go there (live to far away), but just to remind me of this. I'd probably print it out, frame it maybe. But tell him to do this: spacemost posted:I think we should just tell him to take however much he would have spent on our rewards, and use it to buy some newspaper ads or subsidize the grand opening to get some traffic in the door. We gave because we wanted him to succeed. Use that money for success. Financial note: Tell him to keep a bunch of the windfall as a rainy day fund. Ice cream machines and whatnot are great but you gotta make sure you can at least keep the lights on. I don't want him to spend all this $$$ making the place amazing only to not be able to keep the doors open for those rocky first few months  Opening a new business, ESPECIALLY a restaurant is really financially iffy. EVERY business guide out there will tell you you need 6-12months expenses in the bank just in case. Just, make sure he knows that....I want the guy to make it. VVVVV I want this in sticker format. VVVV Trollologist fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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Sep 27, 2013 00:33
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Hot dog kickstarter fanart? Why yes!
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This has inspired me to offer to help out a number of sad little creative projects. Keep dreaming, dreamers. I hope you're able to print the cat equivalent of Latawnya the Naughty Horse. And if not, maybe you'll feel better knowing someone out there rooted for you  .
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100Dachshunds posted:Hot dog kickstarter fanart? Why yes! It's glorious. 
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100Dachshunds posted:Hot dog kickstarter fanart? Why yes! Hooooly poo poo.
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Pick posted:This has inspired me to offer to help out a number of sad little creative projects. Keep dreaming, dreamers. I hope you're able to print the cat equivalent of Latawnya the Naughty Horse. And if not, maybe you'll feel better knowing someone out there rooted for you Man, I can't look through all the projects like these without feeling terrible and wishing I had enough to just fund them all. 
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100Dachshunds posted:Hot dog kickstarter fanart? Why yes! Holy gently caress, this is amazing. I'm with the goon that wants this in sticker format. Maybe laid out for kids on the tables or something. Make it into a place that kids drag their parents into.
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100Dachshunds posted:Hot dog kickstarter fanart? Why yes! souvenir coaster spotted
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SoundMonkey posted:I just told him that as long as a) Team Frogout gets their frog on the side of the building and b) If any of us ever actually show up there, we'll get a free dog, he can do whatever he pleases with reward dogs / potential savings that came from Team Frogout. Let me know if anyone has an issue with this. Or you can use my $500 dollar kick for the wall. I'm cool with that.
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Sojenus posted:Man, I can't look through all the projects like these without feeling terrible and wishing I had enough to just fund them all. For projects that are guaranteed not to be funded (like that one), you can just "back" them knowing it's more like a little pat on the head than anything. Since payment won't go through.
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100Dachshunds posted:Hot dog kickstarter fanart? Why yes! Someone needs to send this to Wayne. That is awesomeness.
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When I went to work this morning, this still distant enough to not get my hopes up. After having a generally lovely day, coming home to see what a goonrush can do restored my faith in humanity again. So of course I put $25 towards making sure Wayne gets to realize his dream.
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Frog Dog should be OK to use; there doesn't seem to be a live trademark on it for food at the moment. [Ed: apparently you can't link to the TESS search results. ED2: I did something, and now I can.] There's a Frog Dog brewery, and a FrogDog clothing line, but I doubt a hot dog is going to interfere with those. There does seem to be a Frog Dogs hot dog shop in Ohio, but they haven't trademarked it. I don't know what the rules on that are. I'd hate to get all excited about this and then get it shot down by a PTO violation, but it looks like we're in the clear from what I can tell. Deteriorata fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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If all else fails there's still the Frogout Dog. Either way, people are going to ask what it's supposed to mean, leading to a story.
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100Dachshunds posted:Hot dog kickstarter fanart? Why yes! That's awesome. I do think it's not Doobie centric enough, though. Any way you could add a ring of text around it? Something like "Doobie's Dog House" on top and "Reform, AL" on the bottom? Also to anyone wanting to submit him a logo or artwork he could use, he posted this comment yesterday: "@Mike Bifulco: I would like that very much... Was just discussing this with my wife.... I would love a cartoon version of my self or a cartoon version of doobies doghouse.. Inbox me so I don't loose this in the comments.. There coming in very fast... Thank you" Just an FYI, not trying to say that any fan art isn't good (except for bad fan art, which this most definitely is not).
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Deteriorata posted:Frog Dog should be OK to use; there doesn't seem to be a live trademark on it for food at the moment. [Ed: apparently you can't link to the TESS search results. ED2: I did something, and now I can.] What this means is tell him to file the PTO Frog Dog Hotdog ASAP. Then when those chumps in Ohio try to get all litigious he can just fax them a copy of the patent and suggested amount they should 'donate' to his stand.
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I want nothing for my cnote. Just a frog sign, pix, and a goon that is non-sperge to visit and congrat this business hotdog mogul. Ok. That was something. That logo was cool too. Nice! Sadly, I blew my discretionary and can't double at 10big.
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If I stop by Nashville on the way, the trip to Reform, AL for me is 2300mi. That's a perfectly acceptable road trip summer vacation to get myself a Frog Dog.100Dachshunds posted:Hot dog kickstarter fanart? Why yes! I, too, need this in sticker/poster/T-shirt form.
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I don't think I ever imagined I'd be bummed that I'm so far from Alabama. 13.5 hours is too far. 
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My dinner plans have just been cancelled, and I'm really tempted to drop by Costco and get one of their celebrated hot dogs. (Though the polish sausage is even better.)
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pentyne posted:What this means is tell him to file the PTO Frog Dog Hotdog ASAP. Then when those chumps in Ohio try to get all litigious he can just fax them a copy of the patent and suggested amount they should 'donate' to his stand. Of course, Wayne needs to be OK with all this in the first place. We're sort of taking over his identity without his consent.
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I went back and changed my donation to "no reward" and chucked a few extra bucks in. When he gets up and running proper, I'm going to send him an S.A.E and ask him to mail back a menu. Also, I have a real hankering to make hotdogs with curry sauce right now.
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As far as I know, it's still Doobie's Dog House. He decided to put the Frogdog on the menu as a thanks to Team Frogout IIRC.
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Yeah I was just thinking the frog dog would be a certain kind of specialty dog maybe we could figure out and maybe he could leave it on the secret menu. What would go on a frog dog?
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Deteriorata posted:Of course, Wayne needs to be OK with all this in the first place. We're sort of taking over his identity without his consent. Look, we gave him like a bajillion dollars, is it really too much to ask him to legally change his name to : frogout :, complete with leading and trailing colons? 
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Bad Munki posted:Look, we gave him like a bajillion dollars, is it really too much to ask him to legally change his name to : frogout :, complete with leading and trailing colons? why yes, yes it is. In all seriousness. FrogDog = Mustard on the bottom, relish on top, bacon legs and tongue.
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DragonReach posted:why yes, yes it is. For a moment I thought you meant "beef tongue" and was dubious yet intrigued. I hope the success doesn't go to his head and we start seeing "artisanal" show up on the menu.
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DragonReach posted:why yes, yes it is. 
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E:^^^^  There is something that makes me chuckle about a crowdfunded joint named Doobie's Artisan Dogs
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Sharkie posted:For a moment I thought you meant "beef tongue" and was dubious yet intrigued. ackk... no no no... bacon only, pig parts, this is Alabama, I grew up there, we want to keep it pure and laden with fat. edit: Holy crap, I have now been traumatized by a freakin hot dog. DragonReach Ghost fucked around with this message at 01:39 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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He's Almost at 8K! Let's make it happen everyone! I was digging through the old Kickstarter comments to see if Wayne brought up the frogdog and found something worth sharing.
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Pick posted:For projects that are guaranteed not to be funded (like that one), you can just "back" them knowing it's more like a little pat on the head than anything. Since payment won't go through. It helps them feel better I suppose, but I really want to see all the little creative projects from people outside the holistic artisanal microwallet video game demographic have their dreams fulfilled. Exactly why I threw my meager free cash at this man and his hot dogs.
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pathetic little tramp posted:Yeah I was just thinking the frog dog would be a certain kind of specialty dog maybe we could figure out and maybe he could leave it on the secret menu. What would go on a frog dog? We should let the hot dog man determine the appropriate toppings. (Relish and jalapeņo.)
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Saga posted:As I understand Kiva, you are theoretically backfilling loans which have actually already been given by Kiva's partner finance organisations (microlenders, etc). Whether this is even accurate I am not sure - is Kiva in fact acting, directly or at a remove, as a guarantor and thus a backstop for its partner lenders (passing any losses on or eventually returning "loaned" capital to you, the member, if you're lucky), who are in fact getting money elsewhere? They like to sell the thing as "you are lending to person x", but that doesn't seem to me to be what's actually happening. I went digging and your correct. They have mircolenders or "field agents". These agent meet with local people and and give them the loan already. Then they put the loan on the website and you can assume the risk and benefits from said loan. That said all the field agents are non-profits and have their stats and information put on this page http://www.kiva.org/partners.. So it not really as heart warming as this kickstarter, sorry about that.
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Any other Rochester goons are lucky enough to experience the joys of DOG TOWN, the best drat hot dog joint there is. In the spirit of that goddamn honest and good establishment, I commit $25 to helping an honest man get an honest business serving honest food. America: Reviving Honesty, One Hot Dog at a time
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monster on a stick posted:We should let the hot dog man determine the appropriate toppings. Yeah, plenty of offers of help are on the table. He'll ask for help with whatever he really needs, I'm sure, in the meantime sit back and let him do his thing. At this point the most direct thing any of us can do is keep spreading the word. poo poo, he's probably still not recovered from the shock yet as it is.
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Anoia posted:poo poo, he's probably still not recovered from the shock yet as it is. Maybe we should kickstart buying him an AED.
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