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Night Danger Moose posted:If the offending car did that to your 4-ton American steel, I would honestly like to see the other guy's car. It must be totaled. Someone in a thread recently posted an impact test against an old car and it got completely destroyed in a crash compared to a modern car with crumple zones. The car didn't have an engine so it was kind of a lovely test but the old car still held up way worse than its reputation would suggest.
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Sep 26, 2013 15:02
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JP Money posted:Someone in a thread recently posted an impact test against an old car and it got completely destroyed in a crash compared to a modern car with crumple zones. The car didn't have an engine so it was kind of a lovely test but the old car still held up way worse than its reputation would suggest. Maybe someone could invent some kind of sticky-auto-post for threads, that in this case would automatically post a refutation of this old canard every 15 pages or so.
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Sep 26, 2013 15:34
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JP Money posted:Someone in a thread recently posted an impact test against an old car and it got completely destroyed in a crash compared to a modern car with crumple zones. The car didn't have an engine so it was kind of a lovely test but the old car still held up way worse than its reputation would suggest. http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g It had an engine. It ended up being just more iron to end up in the driver's lap.
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Sep 26, 2013 15:36
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wallaka posted:http://youtu.be/xtxd27jlZ_g There's this, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBDyeWofcLY
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Sep 26, 2013 16:07
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Yeah, heavy doesn't equal strong.
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Sep 26, 2013 16:18
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See also: Large SUVs that fare much worse than compact cars in collisions with, say, a school bus, because they rely on their mass for crash safety rather than good engineering, so they collapse when they lose the mass battle.
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Sep 26, 2013 16:30
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Kenny Rogers posted:There's this, too. Best part about this video is all the butt-hurt Volvo fans in the comments. Geirskogul posted:Yeah, heavy doesn't equal strong. But every self taught scientist will tell you thats wrong, and they know because it's so obvious. You can't bring things like facts and science into these arguments.
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Sep 26, 2013 16:35
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Kenny Rogers posted:There's this, too. Hah, I love the argument that "Stiffer cabins don't save your body from the impact like a long crumple zone." No poo poo, Sherlock, that's what the airbags and seat belts are for! And those don't work if the body they're mounted to is folding up like an accordion.
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Sep 26, 2013 16:40
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Fucknag posted:See also: Large SUVs that fare much worse than compact cars in collisions with, say, a school bus, because they rely on their mass for crash safety rather than good engineering, so they collapse when they lose the mass battle. That may have been true in the past when SUVs were all still tinfoil bodies slapped on truck ladder frames, but all modern crash testing is done against non-deforming barriers, and modern SUVs even BOF ones do as well as anything else. There are other reasons why a BOF SUV may be less safe e.g. in a rollover where suddenly all the metal is now on top of the passenger cabin.
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Sep 26, 2013 16:44
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TheFonz posted:Is that supposed to be this? Apprently this is a thing.    
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Sep 26, 2013 16:57
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The internet is weird.
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Sep 26, 2013 17:24
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Chinatown posted:The internet is weird. I've seen a lot of poo poo, but this a rabbit hole I don't want to exist. Why the gently caress are people covering themselves in american slices then posing in front of cars? What possible reason is there for this?
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Sep 26, 2013 17:31
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Endless Mike posted:Apprently this is a thing. Chinatown posted:The internet is weird. Valt posted:I've seen a lot of poo poo, but this a rabbit hole I don't want to exist. Why the gently caress are people covering themselves in american slices then posing in front of cars? What possible reason is there for this? From the previous page: Kenny Rogers posted:It's GISHWHES - Greatest International Scavenger Hunt The World Has Ever Seen!
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Sep 26, 2013 17:37
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Endless Mike posted:Apparently this is a thing. If you're looking for other GISHWHES silliness, one of the entries from the last few years was a "Bejeweled Bosom", and another was "Recreate the snake's seduction of Eve at a bus stop. Fig leaf, apple, snake, etc.", and a third was "You posing with a "spaghetti gun" and wearing a woven "spaghetti-hunting jacket". Spaghetti may be cooked or uncooked". Knock yourselves out.  Here, have a actual terrible car thing from 2008.
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Sep 26, 2013 19:03
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Kenny Rogers posted:If you're looking for other GISHWHES silliness, one of the entries from the last few years was a "Bejeweled Bosom", and another was "Recreate the snake's seduction of Eve at a bus stop. Fig leaf, apple, snake, etc.", and a third was "You posing with a "spaghetti gun" and wearing a woven "spaghetti-hunting jacket". Spaghetti may be cooked or uncooked". I wish people would realize that the worst thing to do to cars is add a bunch of goofy stick-on poo poo and ugly rims. All you really need to make an older, boring car to look better is a great coat of paint, tasteful wheels and rims, and keep things simple. Also gotta love the front tires being on all-seasons while the rears are probably crappy lo-pros bought used from someone sketchy on Craigslist.
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Sep 26, 2013 22:54
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Kenny Rogers posted:Here, have a actual terrible car thing from 2008. I'm still waiting for someone to make their Stanza a George CoStanza  I found this video on YouTube, and while the driver of the corvette is terrible, the Escort ZX2 in the background caught my eye:   The Ask Me About Mary Kay is a nice touch. Edit: I keep running into this image on the internet, and I can never find the story behind it other than postings on weird pseudo-advertising blogs for car-crash-injury lawyers:  
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Sep 26, 2013 23:06
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Ulfhednar posted:Edit: I like to think they tried to pull a Dukes of Hazzard jump over the train, came up short, and ended up impaled on the engine.
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Sep 26, 2013 23:16
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I wonder if that's what people mean when they talk about "getting a caddy hood ornament"
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Sep 26, 2013 23:21
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Raluek posted:I wonder if that's what people mean when they talk about "getting a caddy hood ornament" I love how the locomotive just looks like a fly has landed on its nose, someone brush it off.
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Sep 26, 2013 23:24
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Ulfhednar posted:Edit: Googling "cadillac caught on front of locomotive BNSF 5005" gets this as the first hit which links to this news blurb: quote:Car-carrying truck collides with train in Kent VVV The car was on one of these:  Probably at the upper rear. joat mon fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Sep 26, 2013 |
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Sep 26, 2013 23:32
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I've never seen a train hitting a car have that result before, but clearly the locomotive knocked the car up into the air a bit and it got stuck on the front railing. Edit: So clearly I'm an idiot and should spend less time searching for a photo to demonstrate my point while someone else looks up the actual incident. Disgruntled Bovine fucked around with this message at 00:04 on Sep 27, 2013 |
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Sep 26, 2013 23:36
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I've never seen a train hitting a car have that result before, but clearly the locomotive knocked the car up into the air a bit and it got stuck on the front railing. It's a new car. If fell off a car carrier. You can even see the car info sticker in the window.
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Sep 26, 2013 23:54
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Fucknag posted:Hah, I love the argument that "Stiffer cabins don't save your body from the impact like a long crumple zone." No poo poo, Sherlock, that's what the airbags and seat belts are for! And those don't work if the body they're mounted to is folding up like an accordion. The body they are mounted to SHOULD be folding up like and accordion to absorb impact energy. The part that should be strong is the passenger cabin. If you look at how cars are scored for safety you'll see that there is no consideration paid to what is destroyed or bent unless it causes "passenger compartment intrusion".
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Sep 27, 2013 15:36
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Saw this on the way home today:  It doesn't seem quite as stupid in pictures as it did in real life. I blame my crappy cellphone camera for not capturing just how lovely the matte black plastic really looked. Also, yes, the ///M badge is crooked and the NOS-stickers on the fenders were on both sides.
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Sep 27, 2013 19:50
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I hope thats a 316i.
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Sep 27, 2013 20:00
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No way the owner of that car is older than 21. Seeing NOS stickers like that just screams fake or something blown wildly out of proportion.
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Sep 27, 2013 20:07
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Voltage posted:I hope thats a 316i. You know it is. A lone M-badge on an obviously not-M car universally means "lowest trim possible".
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Voltage posted:I hope thats a 316i. I couldn't tell whether it's a 316 or 318, but it's definitely a 4 cylinder model. The interior was pretty basic and the smaller brake rotor diameter (not visible in the picture) as well as the non-chrome window trim are a dead give-away.
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Sep 27, 2013 20:14
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KozmoNaut posted:Pretty easy with a vacuum sync gauge, though. No harder than syncing a motorcycle with 4 carbs. Good Lord, *nobody* commented on this? First off, I think I want one of the space vans in the gif, and second, WTF? Guess the guy in the van was pissed off young tough there almost got smacked, by his own stupidity, and then just sauntered off without even an apologetic look back. Gotta admit young tough had it coming, though I'd have expected the driver to get out or yell or something. Nice precision driving there. Could have gone very wrong...
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Sep 27, 2013 22:18
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I think they're using a 3l now I really don't see what is wrong with them, they're easily the most pleasant small van for general usage.
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The 1kd/2kd engine is a steaming pile of poo poo, that's what's wrong with them. It has decent (read: not great by modern standards) power and torque but literally everything goes wrong with them. Egr, egr cooler, injectors, injector washers, they have an insane propensity for growing diesel bug and a fuel filtration system that is basically worthless, the transmissions are made of glass (more relevant on the hilux with the same drivetrain), the clutch is hopeless and WILL fail if you decide to tow anything, the water pump WILL leak, usually just out of your warranty period. Also the diffs like to blow up and the radiators have a habit of failing (an incredibly fun job). I could rant about that turd of an engine all day. The reason it goes better than the mitsi challenger engine is because the challenger engine is significantly more outdated technologically, as all mitsubishi crdi engines are. The hyundai 2.2L R series blows away the 3.0 1kd on power, torque, economy and reliability, despite only being found in fwd/awd softroaders. The (very outdated) hyundai/kia 2.5L diesel ALSO outperforms the 1kd, despite being much older and only now being used in light trucks which don't have to meet euro V emissions. edit: forgot to mention: the 1kd develops a really terrible diesel knock that sounds like a failed big end after a few thousand km's. It's basically a fuel injection pattern problem. Toyota's fix? You get an irreversible ecu upgrade which changes the fuel mapping to make the knock go away. And by go away, I mean it shifts it 1000rpm higher in the rev range and costs you about 25 horsepower.
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Darchangel posted:Gotta admit young tough had it coming, though I'd have expected the driver to get out or yell or something. See if you can find the video source, if I remember correctly you should be in for a treat.
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Sep 28, 2013 08:14
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Yeah while the guy who got hit is bent over trying to stand up, the van driver walks up and kicks him in the face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgubRrbfHVc
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Sep 28, 2013 08:48
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Got to love the useless shits standing around "Mehhhhh, 'ts not my problem".
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Darchangel posted:Good Lord, *nobody* commented on this? What is NOT shown there is that the van pulls up and stops, the driver gets out and walks over to kick the guy right in the head, laying him out cold. I'll see if I can find the extended version. E:FB ^ DILLIGAF fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Sep 28, 2013 |
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Ringo Star Get posted:No way the owner of that car is older than 21. Seeing NOS stickers like that just screams fake or something blown wildly out of proportion. NOS stickers were huge 10 years ago, the dude could just be too lazy to peel them off.
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