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I always find the biggest problem with other drivers on a bike is that some have a hard time estimating my speed with just one headlight. If I'm riding down the rode and get the spidey sense tingle about someone waiting to pull out ahead I'll usually move the bike from one side of the lane to the other, back and forth. I've seen some people pop their brakes when I do that so I have to assume it works sometimes.
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8ender posted:I always find the biggest problem with other drivers on a bike is that some have a hard time estimating my speed with just one headlight. If I'm riding down the rode and get the spidey sense tingle about someone waiting to pull out ahead I'll usually move the bike from one side of the lane to the other, back and forth. I've seen some people pop their brakes when I do that so I have to assume it works sometimes. I sometimes find it difficult to determine the exact distance to me of bikes with only one headlight. I find it hard to do the same for the many, many domestics around here missing their right headlight from last weekend's DUI. At least the latter sometimes have a dangling corner light on the opposite side that you can use to figure out how close they are in the dark. I usually wait until I'm 100% sure but I can definitely see how it can happen if you're impatient trash.
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Sep 23, 2013 15:35
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KozmoNaut posted:As completely brainless and idiotic as the average driver is, a truck (and especially a semi) is friggin' huge and very obviously not a car. I have had people try to merge in to me or turn across my path when I was driving a F250 with a 30 foot trailer attached and when driving my old bosses straight truck. People just don't think before they do stuff because they have done it without problem hundreds of times before until one time there actually is something there. Basically the same as in this picture including the forklift hanging off the back. 
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Sep 23, 2013 16:03
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I always do the wiggle when I'm coming up on someone turning or pulling out and try to do it when lane splitting as well. I'm not sure if it helps gauge speed or just having something moving strangely catches the eye. I've also noticed that since I put an 80's French spec selective yellow bulb in lots more people move out of my way when lane splitting. So I guess weird colored headlights work to a degree.
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Sep 23, 2013 20:48
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Seat Safety Switch posted:I sometimes find it difficult to determine the exact distance to me of bikes with only one headlight. I find it hard to do the same for the many, many domestics around here missing their right headlight from last weekend's DUI. At least the latter sometimes have a dangling corner light on the opposite side that you can use to figure out how close they are in the dark. Saturns completely ruin this method of distance measurement. loving things always look really far away, but never far enough away. Also, I had some idiot jaywalk right in front of me while I was driving the 5 ton to the parts store a few years ago, because everything else I owned was broken or broken and halfway through being repaired. I'm not sure why he thought that was a good idea but he picked up the pace a bit when I hit the airhorns and locked up all ten tires trying to avoid turning him into red goo. That camo must work better than I expected but I can't really say much for his sense of hearing. e: happened right here in front of this AutismZone: http://goo.gl/maps/Vvqhq kastein fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Sep 23, 2013 |
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Sep 23, 2013 21:47
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I think a lot of people don't even consider how far it takes a vehicle to stop. They just assume they're safe because they're a pedestrian, and no one would dare hit a pedestrian, they'd get sued and go to jail and poo poo! They seem to assume that just because it's illegal means it's impossible and they're safe to do whatever the hell they feel like.
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Sep 24, 2013 01:07
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:I think a lot of people don't even consider how far it takes a vehicle to stop. They just assume they're safe because they're a pedestrian, and no one would dare hit a pedestrian, they'd get sued and go to jail and poo poo! They seem to assume that just because it's illegal means it's impossible and they're safe to do whatever the hell they feel like. On the flip side, I walk across a very busy street probably 20 times a day for work. I wait for the cross-lights, I check both ways multiple times and I don't doddle in the crosswalk. Almost every day I have a close call. About 2 weeks ago I get the cross light and there is a car waiting to take a right beside me I look over and she waves at me to go ahead. I get about 8 feet off the curb and she guns it. She pulls out into the left lane (4 lane non-divided with a turn lane in between) I stopped so hard I fell towards her car and actually made contact with my chest, but manage to save myself by pushing off her rear passenger window. She didn't stop she just accelerated away as fast as possible. I was so stunned I didn't even have time to look at her plate, otherwise I'd have called it in as a hit & run. Never ever assume it's safe, even if they see you. People just generally don't give a drat and will take your life over a 15 second delay in their day.
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Sep 24, 2013 17:03
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Consider yourself lucky she didn't get mad at you and decide to finish the job. (From the terrible car stuff topic)
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Sep 24, 2013 17:07
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I once almost turned left in front of two motorcycle cops at an intersection. They were riding real close together at night, and their headlights looked like a car that was farther away. So I guess ride staggered or in tandem in that situation?
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Saw this on Facebook: Land Rover owners group (yeah yeah i know, but there are some nice trucks on there) Dumb Facebook User I wouldn't use engine oil in a hydraulic system. I did it once in a brake system just for a tow to be scrapped. Worked for that day, but no brakes the next day, but didn't matter as wasn't after parts from the braking system. I think it upset the rubber seals. Seriously. loving ENGINE OIL IN YOUR BRAKES?
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Sep 27, 2013 17:36
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:Consider yourself lucky she didn't get mad at you and decide to finish the job.
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Sep 30, 2013 23:31
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Here are some nice bikers confronting an SUV. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ukdkgLYYbw http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ticle-1.1471585
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Sep 30, 2013 23:47
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I hate watching stuff like that. Stupid people in a mob increases the stupidity exponentially.
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Oct 1, 2013 00:04
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Their lane positions, following distances, and (lack of) gear choice is loving appalling. Also, how loving dumb do you have to be to try and make a 2 ton vehicle rear end your motorcycle. I'm totally going to show this rear end in a top hat! *brake checks, gets squished* He's lucky the Range Rover driver was paying some sort of attention and not traveling along like most motorists. e; also that article is really loving hard to read. What's so hard about telling a story from start to finish in the order that it happened? Galler fucked around with this message at 00:45 on Oct 1, 2013 |
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Oct 1, 2013 00:06
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I get that the bikers are stupid for confronting the driver, but there wouldn't have been an accident in the first place if he wasn't following with less than a car length's distance. The dude on the white bike brake checked him and he didn't brake back. The SUV driver was clearly impatient because his "right" to have the road all to himself was being impaired by the mass of bikers.
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Oct 1, 2013 00:08
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Galler posted:Also, how loving dumb do you have to be to try and make a 2 ton vehicle rear end your motorcycle. Its only dumb if you believe that motorcyclists are in any way responsible for their own safety. If a motorcycle cuts you off and brakes checks you, and your 2 ton vehicle is unable to stop faster than a <500 lb bike its all your fault for not being aware of the motorcycle! Giblet Plus! posted:The SUV driver was clearly impatient because his "right" to have the road all to himself was being impaired by the mass of bikers. So if an angry mob of motorcyclists forced you to stop in the middle of a highway you'd just sit there and let them do whatever they want? At what point would you justify breaking out of the mob and running? When they're dragging you and your family out of the car to educate you on  motorcycle awareness ?
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Oct 1, 2013 00:16
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Giblet Plus! posted:I get that the bikers are stupid for confronting the driver, but there wouldn't have been an accident in the first place if he wasn't following with less than a car length's distance. The dude on the white bike brake checked him and he didn't brake back. Yeah, keep raging against cagers.
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Oct 1, 2013 00:18
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Giblet Plus! posted:The dude on the white bike brake checked him and he didn't brake back. Watch the video playback time and keep in mind the average human perception/reaction time of 1.5 seconds. The biker cut him off with about 1/8th a car length to spare, speeds up slightly, and then brake checks the SUV driver. That's loving on the biker. e: I ride a motorcycle. I do everything in my power to not get loving run over by inattentive drivers. Part of that is to not put myself in harms way by being dumb as hell.
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Oct 1, 2013 00:26
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Giblet Plus! posted:I get that the bikers are stupid for confronting the driver, but there wouldn't have been an accident in the first place if he wasn't following with less than a car length's distance. The dude on the white bike brake checked him and he didn't brake back. It looked bikes were cutting him off and slowing down in the beginning of the video. His following distance would have been constantly decreased by the riders ahead of him unless he came to a dead stop in the middle of the road. The actions of both sides seem stupid in this case.
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Oct 1, 2013 00:32
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Bang Me Please posted:His following distance would have been constantly decreased by the riders ahead of him unless he came to a dead stop in the middle of the road. Keep watching. At 35 seconds they do come to a complete stop and box the SUV in, with several bikers getting off of their bikes and approaching the SUV in an aggressive manner. Unless there's footage we're missing it appears that the bikers caused an accident, boxed the SUV driver in and were going to dispense some mob justice. I ask again - at what point would any rational person justify someone who is vastly outnumbered breaking out of a mob and running? e: Yeah, these bikers are real saints - http://abcnews.go.com/US/video-shows-motorcyclists-pull-driver-car-beat/story?id=20419705 ABCnews.com posted:Finally, after the entire group turned off the highway and the SUV rolled to a stop, motorcyclists ran up to Range Rover and one biker, using his helmet, began smashing the windows of the vehicle, the video shows. Other bikers joined in before the video was stopped. Geoj fucked around with this message at 00:54 on Oct 1, 2013 |
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Oct 1, 2013 00:38
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Geoj posted:So if an angry mob of motorcyclists forced you to stop in the middle of a highway you'd just sit there and let them do whatever they want? At what point would you justify breaking out of the mob and running? When they're dragging you and your family out of the car to educate you on I would have seen them coming 1/4 mile ago in my rearview mirror, and moved to the right to let them by, maybe even with a thumbs up. I live in south side chicago and you see big groups of bikes all the time. I always give them space to do their thing. Conversely, when I'm on my bike, it's nice when cars do the same.
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Giblet Plus! posted:I would have seen them coming 1/4 mile ago in my rearview mirror, and moved to the right to let them by, maybe even with a thumbs up. I live in south side chicago and you see big groups of bikes all the time. I always give them space to do their thing. So to be clear here - you're justifying motorcyclists causing an accident and then using it as justification to cause property damage and assault someone because (hypothetically) he didn't "give them space to do their thing"?
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Oct 1, 2013 01:03
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I'd just like to point out, as a member of the Cycle Asylum illuminati, that I don't recognize that guy as a frequent or respected poster in CA.
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Oct 1, 2013 01:07
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Geoj posted:Keep watching. At 35 seconds they do come to a complete stop and box the SUV in, with several bikers getting off of their bikes and approaching the SUV in an aggressive manner. Unless there's footage we're missing it appears that the bikers caused an accident, boxed the SUV driver in and were going to dispense some mob justice. So what stance are you taking exactly? After this post it seems like "All of them".
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Oct 1, 2013 01:12
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CA is alllllll over that discussion right now in our pics and video thread if you need to get .02 in. In summary: Someone said it very eloquently: 'Those aren't motorcyclists, those are assholes on motorcycles, there is a big difference'. As a motorcyclist, having watched the video, I have no beef with the SUV guy.
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Oct 1, 2013 01:19
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Really, the only thing I can say the SUV driver did that was "stupid" was to get off the highway and get caught in traffic with no exit route. But, I don't know the roads in NYC, so it may have been unavoidable.
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Oct 1, 2013 01:28
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Geoj posted:So to be clear here - you're justifying motorcyclists causing an accident and then using it as justification to cause property damage and assault someone because (hypothetically) he didn't "give them space to do their thing"? Giblet Plus! posted:I get that the bikers are stupid for confronting the driver,
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Oct 1, 2013 01:33
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gently caress everybody with a G name, that is all.
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Oct 1, 2013 01:41
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Bang Me Please posted:It looked bikes were cutting him off and slowing down in the beginning of the video. His following distance would have been constantly decreased by the riders ahead of him unless he came to a dead stop in the middle of the road. The actions of both sides seem stupid in this case.  seems like a pretty clear way to communicate "give us a little more space"
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Giblet Plus! posted:
Seems like a pretty clear way to communicate "I want to die by being run over by a car but I don't want to leave any legal confusion as to who was at fault (me)."
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Oct 1, 2013 01:56
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Giblet Plus! posted:
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Geirskogul posted:Seems like a pretty clear way to communicate "I want to die by being run over by a car but I don't want to leave any legal confusion as to who was at fault (me)." everyone keeps forgetting, I agree that the bikers are dumb. however, the suv driver was also dumb. being brake checked is not an excuse for hitting someone. it's no coincidence it was a suv. he was all jacked up off his big badass suv, and wanted to play tough guy for his wife. basically he was kinda like zimmerman.
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YF19pilot posted:Really, the only thing I can say the SUV driver did that was "stupid" was to get off the highway and get caught in traffic with no exit route. But, I don't know the roads in NYC, so it may have been unavoidable. It says in the news article above that when they initially stopped the SUV one of the bikers slashed a tire. Probably wasn't possible to maintain highway speed with a flat and disintegrating tire, I'd guess he was trying to make it to a well-populated area to ensure there'd be witnesses.
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Oct 1, 2013 02:12
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Giblet Plus! posted:
So its now OK to completely block an entire freeway, while riding illegally(pretty sure its illegal to ride side by side like that) just because there are a lot of you? Are people expected to just stop on the onramp when they accidentally get into the middle of this? Granted I would have just waited for them to pass since poo poo like this happens, but doesn't mean its OK for guys to ride like this. I am just glad that we don't get groups like this in seattle.
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Manifest Dynasty posted:Note: In the moments immediately prior to this, that biker is literally next to the SUV, in his lane and mean mugging him. Also, because the camera man is farther back at that point, we see a bike roughly one car length behind the SUV.
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Oct 1, 2013 02:33
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Giblet Plus! posted:everyone keeps forgetting, I agree that the bikers are dumb. however, the suv driver was also dumb. being brake checked is not an excuse for hitting someone. This is really precious. I mean, I, too, can't believe that the FUCKIN' CAGER had the audacity to hit the guy in front of him who was driving erratically, unpredictably, and irresponsibly.
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Oct 1, 2013 02:49
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Giblet Plus! posted:
If you watch before that, that rider comes up alongside the suv, enters the lane next to the vehicle, then pulls in front and brakes. Regardless of what may have gone on beforehand, that man caused himself to get hit.
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Oct 1, 2013 02:54
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Looks like a bunch of douchebags who just watched mad max for the first time to me.
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Phone posted:This is really precious. I know, it's like, why can't rape victims learn to not dress like total sluts. rear end in a top hat shouldn't have been driving that stupid SUV, poo poo wouldn't have happened. If he'd just learn to pull over to the side of the road any time he sees a motorcycle, dude wouldn't have gotten his rear end handed to him in front of his kid. Now she'll grow up and become a whore because daddy is a road hogging pussy. Geoj posted:It says in the news article above that when they initially stopped the SUV one of the bikers slashed a tire. Probably wasn't possible to maintain highway speed with a flat and disintegrating tire, I'd guess he was trying to make it to a well-populated area to ensure there'd be witnesses. I missed that before posting but read that in the CA picture/video thread after the fact. I don't expect any average joe to know "ambush tactics" any more than I would expect them to engage in evasive driving on a flat tire in a roll-over prone vehicle with their 2yo daughter in the backseat. Just arm chair coaching I guess.
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As a motorcyclist who dislikes inattentive drivers as much as anybody (and who deals with MANY, MANY of them during my daily 60 mile commute), my opinion is SUV guy did nothing wrong. Even if the SUV almost creamed you because he's a lovely SUV driving douchebag, you catch your breath and focus more on not getting into the crap situation that caused you to almost get creamed. You don't assault someone. You surely don't break out their windows and stab them. If that went a little further he could have been murdered. If that were me and I had my wife and kid in the car I'd be playing loving motorcycle pinball until the cops got there.
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