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Someguy posted:We've already covered most of the reasons why this is a bad gameplay mechanic and I'm not going to reiterate them, but ultimately you're arguing for something that Dice has already acknowledged is broken and will be changed. Where's this acknowledgement from DICE?
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Welsper posted:TOW missiles seem to have this behaviour in beta, so you may indeed be lucky. Haha what? Don't be upset because someone is better at a videogame and out-smugged you. I'm sure I have more time playing conquest then you do as well. Of course none of this changes the fact that you're still arguing for something Dice has already acknowledged is broken and will be changed. edit: MCOM Defend Kills 308 MCOMs Destroyed 342 Flags Captured (Conquest) 3,187 Flags Defended (Conquest) 3,033 yep, all I do is play Rush  ReadingZucchini posted:Where's this acknowledgement from DICE? https://twitter.com/Demize99/status/385893637311442944 https://twitter.com/Demize99/status/386048443661037569 Someguy fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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Oct 5, 2013 01:37
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Tarranon posted:Like I posted above, it's surprisingly difficult getting engineers to even launch at the painted targets. When noone shoots my lased targets I start telling them to pay attention for them in team chat every few minutes and actively engage in communication with the engineers when they shoot poo poo down for me. Good vibes and encouragement go a long way.
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Oct 5, 2013 01:48
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I'm looking forward to re-locking IGLAs and Starstreaks, LoS-less locking from Javelins, and the BC2 AT4 cadre discovering the SRAW. It's going to be an entertaining November.
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Speaking of locking onto lased targets - in BF3 you could fire off an MBT guided shell at something which wasn't in your line of sight - i.e. lock on it, whip the gun up, and fire off a round. Can you do the same in BF4, with guided or RPG, or you can't lock onto stuff not in your LOS? And it's an old discussion, but ever since Below Radar was taken away from helicopters in BF3 I always laugh when (bad) heli pilots start whining about it not being easy to destroy forces on the ground with impunity non-stop anymore because forces on the ground finally have ways to reliably bring them down. There is a groundpounder out there flipping you his middle finger with a grin on his face every time his rocket slams in your rear end and you crash and burn, and if it makes you rage and cry a little inside when it happens, then let those tears flow, I say! Note I say "bad" pilots - you don't hear from good pilots, good pilots adapt their tactics and keep flying.
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Manatee Cannon posted:Is it just me or is the first shotgun terrible? It gets like seven shots as a primary weapon and has awful range, even for a shotgun. The MASS has better range, even. Then you run out (because ammo kits literally give you one shot before they run out because of the way the gun works) and you're stuck with a pistol. And then you need 8000 points with it to unlock the 870. It's got pretty short range, but it fires as fast as you can click. Play domination, don't put on the duckbill, and you'll be cleaning house. At first it's hard to get used to, but once you realize that two center-mass shots will drop anyone in CQB, and a half-mag will either seriously injure or outright kill people at a pretty decent range, you'll learn to love it. By comparison, the 870 with buckshot feels a bit sluggish since even up-close, a chest hit doesn't guarantee a kill. Ed: Also holy poo poo shut the gently caress up about heli balance. They're fixing the OHK/no tone on RPGs, learn to dodge locks and take out the person locking you. Also, remember BF3 and soflams? How many pubbies actually used them to any effect?
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KatMan911 posted:Speaking of locking onto lased targets - in BF3 you could fire off an MBT guided shell at something which wasn't in your line of sight - i.e. lock on it, whip the gun up, and fire off a round. Can you do the same in BF4, with guided or RPG, or you can't lock onto stuff not in your LOS? Yea you can do this. When you lock onto it it flies up like a javelin and lands on the target. You are not going to get a hit on something on the other side of the building but on the street level its fine.
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Oct 5, 2013 02:02
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I just realized this:  is probably supposed to happen all the time. I get it if I look at exactly the right spots from exactly the right angles, 99% of the time my game looks like this:  Time to upgrade the Radeon 6850 HD I guess 
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Oct 5, 2013 02:03
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KatMan911 posted:Speaking of locking onto lased targets - in BF3 you could fire off an MBT guided shell at something which wasn't in your line of sight - i.e. lock on it, whip the gun up, and fire off a round. Can you do the same in BF4, with guided or RPG, or you can't lock onto stuff not in your LOS? RPG needs LoS, Guided Shells, TOWs don't seem to need LoS but the targets are often above the elevation of the guns.
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Gazaar posted:When noone shoots my lased targets I start telling them to pay attention for them in team chat every few minutes and actively engage in communication with the engineers when they shoot poo poo down for me. Good vibes and encouragement go a long way. I agree! If someone at least chats back I consider that a pretty big win, and I always try to cheer people on whenever they do something cool. It's just really frustrating when everyone shuts up and it feels like you're playing with bots Tarranon fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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Oct 5, 2013 02:23
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Welsper posted:RPG needs LoS, Guided Shells, TOWs don't seem to need LoS but the targets are often above the elevation of the guns. There's a really awful minimum range for even TOW missiles to lock onto SOFLAMed targets. I kind of wish the range was longer since I don't want to be within poking distance of a T90.
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Oct 5, 2013 02:26
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I've heard literally nobody talk, so I think my sound might be jacked up. Oh well, I can mumble with goons if I really want to talk.
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mad.radhu posted:I just realized this: Holy poo poo that is ugly 
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Oct 5, 2013 02:31
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mad.radhu posted:I just realized this: You should at least wait until release to see if you need to upgrade, the full version of the game should be better optimized and run better than the beta.
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Oct 5, 2013 02:35
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I'm noticing a few friends of mine complaining about rubber banding and generally lovely connections. I keep spiking to 150. The only reason I ain't bitching about my ISP is because my ISP just makes me time out, not lag. 
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Den of Lies posted:So for some reason, when I load into battlelog, Firefox slows to a crawl and it loads very slowly. Anybody else experiencing this? I get this when using firefox for the battlescreen.
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Oct 5, 2013 02:38
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Any news on if they plan on releasing a patch/updated build during the beta? I get great performance on my aging box but I get this weird micro stutter every so often that changing settings can't seem to fix. Anyone else had that problem and come up with a fix? New drivers seemed to actually decrease performance so I system restored back.
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Oct 5, 2013 02:41
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Ularg posted:TOW missiles can lock onto SOFLAM targets if that is what you mean. That thing doesn't have wire-guided missiles
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Oct 5, 2013 02:42
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Captain Beans posted:Any news on if they plan on releasing a patch/updated build during the beta? I get that too, and it's really annoying. Nothing seems to affect it.
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Oct 5, 2013 02:53
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Spaz Medicine posted:I get that too, and it's really annoying. Nothing seems to affect it. Yeah I get this as well. I run great on Ultra, then I get those micro stutters. Turn it down to Low, still get them.
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Oct 5, 2013 02:54
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I really think the new influx of players is weighing down their servers A LOT.
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THE PWNER posted:Yeah I get this as well. I run great on Ultra, then I get those micro stutters. Turn it down to Low, still get them. Same deal here. Mine are accompanied by a weird audio stutter as well.
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Oct 5, 2013 02:59
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Is there any way to make the beta run at over 60 FPS?KatMan911 posted:Speaking of locking onto lased targets - in BF3 you could fire off an MBT guided shell at something which wasn't in your line of sight - i.e. lock on it, whip the gun up, and fire off a round. Can you do the same in BF4, with guided or RPG, or you can't lock onto stuff not in your LOS? You can, and it works even better. If someone paints a target on the other side of the map, you can just fire the guided shell and the shell will attempt to avoid obstacles. If there's stuff on the way, it'll launch itself upward almost immediately. However, you gotta keep your sights on the target otherwise the shell might lose its tracking and fail to connect.
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Oct 5, 2013 03:21
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Killing snipers/other people camping on rooftops is the best thing.  The ammo box brings us all together.   Very strange bug...I was not able to replicate it. As soon as I fired I was out of third person. I was invincible. 
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Welp, I just took the plunge on a GTX760.  I'm saving up for my first loving car.EDIT: Went to the bathroom and threw up, kept playing BF4. extremebuff fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Oct 5, 2013 |
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Bobnumerotres posted:Welp, I just took the plunge on a GTX760. I've got an itch for a new video card as well (currently running a 6950 1GB) but I wanna wait and see how those new AMD cards turn out next month and whether or not that Mantle stuff is complete horseshit.
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Republicans posted:I've got an itch for a new video card as well (currently running a 6950 1GB) but I wanna wait and see how those new AMD cards turn out next month and whether or not that Mantle stuff is complete horseshit. Also keep in mind black Friday sales are coming up a month after release if you can wait that long.
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FlyingCowOfDoom posted:Also keep in mind black Friday sales are coming up a month after release if you can wait that long. Speaking of which, are SSDs making a difference for BF4? I grabbed an small SSD 2 years ago for BF3, and I'm wondering if the need for speed is required for BF4. I installed onto my SSD for BF4, but I haven't taken the time to check the differences between a regular HD and an SSD.
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Republicans posted:I've got an itch for a new video card as well (currently running a 6950 1GB) but I wanna wait and see how those new AMD cards turn out next month and whether or not that Mantle stuff is complete horseshit.
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I was going to get a new mobo/cpu for this game but I am running the beta beautifully so I can probably wait till next year before I upgrade. When is the next Intel cpu's supposed to come out anyway? Haswell came out recently right?
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Alright, so I just played my first couple matches. It runs about as well as BF3 did on my machine, which is pretty well at 1920x1200 with everything on Ultra settings. I've got a 670, i7 2600, 8GB RAM and an SSD. The map in the beta is loving colorless. I guess that's the point, what with it being a destroyed city and smoke and rubble everywhere and whatever, but I feel like I can't tell what the gently caress I'm even doing half the time. The learning curve feels steeper than BF3. I didn't do too badly at BF3 most of the time when I'd play it, but I'm getting my rear end handed to me in this. I feel like this would give me about the same experience BF3 did, as in I'd play it for a couple months, have a decent amount of fun with it, get as good as I feel I can be at it and then never touch it again, unlike some of the Call of Duty games and BF2 where I'd play them for several months straight and never get tired of them. So I'm not sure whether or not I want to buy this at this point. I do know that I don't want to play this awful map anymore, though.
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Captain Beans posted:Any news on if they plan on releasing a patch/updated build during the beta? This is kind of bothering me too. I have a modest machine that will do medium with very high FPS. But its the weird stuttering that completely ruins that advantage for me. That and I die in firefights I haven't even engaged myself in yet.
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Holy poo poo, taking out snipers with the airburst will never get old.
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Less Fat Luke posted:Holy poo poo, taking out snipers with the airburst will never get old. It's a really fun weapon. Not too great in a straight-up fight, but it's really rewarding to master. I hope they don't change it. Maybe a buff to a three-shot kill
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So I only bought BF3, no DLC or anything, and all my friends in the same boat got in today. I went to the BF4 battlelog page, and it said I had to get access by downloading the game. I patched origin, downloaded BF4 beta, and hit play. It redirected me back to the GET ACCESS page. I clicked GET ACCESS and it sent me back to the download page for the beta, which is of course just a link to Origin. Has anyone else had this? Anything I can do or do I need to contact EA support and wait a month? I get the same thing if I go to the BF3 battlelog site then transition to the BF4 one. When I hit play through Origin it launches the browser page with some session key like it's trying to activate, but I'm stuck in this loop. Edit: Apparently EA's site was actively logging me out. Fixed it now. 
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General Battuta posted:It's a really fun weapon. Not too great in a straight-up fight, but it's really rewarding to master. I hope they don't change it. Maybe a buff to a three-shot kill
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Oct 5, 2013 05:17
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If your game crashes moments away from the match ending, do you get your points? 
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Knocking choppers out of the sky is getting easier and easier without the lock ons. I'm still having trouble with tanks, it seems like half the time I hit another tank with a shell it does no damage. Possibly a beta bug, but I've also shot people at point blank and done no damage.
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Avocados posted:If your game crashes moments away from the match ending, do you get your points?
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Avocados posted:If your game crashes moments away from the match ending, do you get your points? Sometimes. It's a beta so in the end it doesn't matter. Day one only about half my matches counted.
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