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Total Meatlove posted:What team is going to buy him though? Even Championship teams are going to be wary of taking a punt on him. I could see some American MLS team overpaying for him for a feel-good homecoming transfer like with Dempsey, otherwise outlook not so good
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Can i change my prediction to Jozy will score more goals in the World Cup than he will this season in the premier league?
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Oct 5, 2013 20:34
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I think Jozy's hold-up play and dangerous positioning are second to none and considering he's the undisputed goalscorer for one of the current top nations on the Fifa Rankings as well as a top team on the most competitive league in the world, then you'll realize he's a very good player that is being held back by a mediocre midfield.
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Oct 5, 2013 20:35
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pointsofdata posted:He'll go somewhere else when we get relegated and start banging the goals in again when he gets good service, and people will still not be able to see that this Sunderland team is practically impossible for a striker to look good in. Altidore's movement is poor and he makes the defenders job look easy. He doesn't harass them, doesn't challenge in the air, and is incredibly weak in challenges. He's sluggish, controls the ball extremely poorly, and consistently makes poor decisions on the ball. Absolutely every loving aspect of his game is bad. If you think he's getting into dangerous positions, you simply don't understand what a dangerous position is. There was a comment during the game about how he'd pulled off Vidic during Giac's cross, but Vidic was aware of his movement and didn't follow because Altidore had left the so called "corridor of uncertainty" without actually moving far enough to present a threat he needed to deal with. No matter where that cross was aimed, Vidic could deal with it, and stayed closer to the goal to avoid having Altidore sprint in behind him. Altidore's movement is probably the only aspect of his game worse than his total inability to take a challenge from players half his size. As for him drawing a booking, he simply miscontrolled the ball and got tripped when Vidic made a challenge for where Altidore played the ball. He offered absolutely no threat and it's pretty clear Sunderland players don't trust him on the ball. Is this enough of a response to his play for you? He's genuinely the single worst striker in the league. At least Torres still occasionally surprises players before loving up his shot.
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Total Meatlove posted:What team is going to buy him though? Even Championship teams are going to be wary of taking a punt on him. Rather than stay in Holland, I'd wish Jozy would have joined Lazio/Napoli
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Oct 5, 2013 20:42
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pointsofdata posted:He'll go somewhere else when we get relegated and start banging the goals in again when he gets good service, and people will still not be able to see that this Sunderland team is practically impossible for a striker to look good in. We? I thought you were a Watford fan.
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Crunkjuice posted:Can i change my prediction to Jozy will score more goals in the World Cup than he will this season in the premier league? I think he'll probably score twice as many (0)
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pointsofdata posted:Rather than stay in Holland, I'd wish Jozy would have joined Lazio/Napoli Erm, erm... erm..**starts sweating profusely**... I don't know how to break this but...
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Oct 5, 2013 20:44
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Spangly A posted:Altidore's movement is poor and he makes the defenders job look easy. He doesn't harass them, doesn't challenge in the air, and is incredibly weak in challenges. He's sluggish, controls the ball extremely poorly, and consistently makes poor decisions on the ball. He passes well for a forward, he gets a good number of assists so not sure where you're getting that from. He plays 90 minutes most games so not sure where you're getting that from. Playing with 1 forward is a lot different than playing with one forward and only lobbing balls to him or shooting from 30 yards out. That's called "lack of service". He seems to score just fine against international competition, it's not like he's only scored against CONCACAF and Dutch teams.
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Oct 5, 2013 20:46
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atomic gog posted:I've just crunched the numbers and it has been around 1,925,565 minutes since his last barclays goal, scored on February 6th 2010. can someone make a list of players who have been able to score a goal in the premier league since Jozy last did it
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Oct 5, 2013 20:47
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belgend posted:We? I thought you were a Watford fan. He's a follower of Jozy Altidore FC.
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the sex ghost posted:can someone make a list of players who have been able to score a goal in the premier league since Jozy last did it Might be easier and funnier to just make it goalkeepers and defenders
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Oct 5, 2013 20:51
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This thread is pathetic, how can people who devote so much time to a sport, struggle so badly with analysing a match "hur dur he hasnt scored a garl yit so therefore he iz fkn shite"
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Oct 5, 2013 20:53
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pointsofdata posted:He passes well for a forward, he gets a good number of assists so not sure where you're getting that from. No he doesn't, how long he plays doesn't matter given he never challenges defenders or tires them, plenty of good strikers can do the lone striker thing, his record against international competition in non-concacaf teams is poor. How can you not see this? He's poo poo.
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Oct 5, 2013 20:53
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I haven't seen a lot of Jozy but every time I do see him he doesn't seem to know what to do when a good striker would try to win the ball in the air. He just looks lost and confused when a high cross comes in.
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Spangly A posted:No he doesn't, how long he plays doesn't matter given he never challenges defenders or tires them, plenty of good strikers can do the lone striker thing, his record against international competition in non-concacaf teams is poor. Jesus wept. He is on his own against world class defenders, with our shittest midfield in years punting balls over his head. He's clearly fast and powerful, but its impossible to do everything on his own. (again, as with the others, he was knackered for most of the second half).
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Oct 5, 2013 20:55
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pointsofdata posted:This thread is pathetic, how can people who devote so much time to a sport, struggle so badly with analysing a match "hur dur he hasnt scored a garl yit so therefore he iz fkn shite" A striker is measured by the amount of goals they score, not on some loving silly stat like aerial duels won.
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Spiller posted:I haven't seen a lot of Jozy but every time I do see him he doesn't seem to know what to do when a good striker would try to win the ball in the air. He just looks lost and confused when a high cross comes in. Also this, good strikers challenge for every ball because it tires and unsettles defenders, making them more likely to make mistakes. This is what I was referring to with "doesn't hassle defenders". He does nothing to challenge defenders. His finishing is actually the only aspect of his game that isn't awful, his ruled out goal v Arsenal was good, and he wasn't crap at it in Holland. But he's not mentally quick enough, and doesn't actually do anything to help the team.
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pointsofdata posted:He passes well for a forward, he gets a good number of assists so not sure where you're getting that from. He has 0 assists this season
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Oct 5, 2013 20:56
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I've spent years watching incredibly poor target man with no idea how to play football, and this year Maiga and Petric have been excellent examples. Both of those shithouses are better than Jozy. Carlton Cole was better than Jozy, and he genuinely can't get a premier league contract right now.
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Oct 5, 2013 20:57
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the sex ghost posted:can someone make a list of players who have been able to score a goal in the premier league since Jozy last did it 1) Emile Heskey
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pointsofdata posted:This thread is pathetic, how can people who devote so much time to a sport, struggle so badly with analysing a match "hur dur he hasnt scored a garl yit so therefore he iz fkn shite" Agreed OP, you've got it all sussed.
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pointsofdata posted:Rather than stay in Holland, I'd wish Jozy would have joined Lazio/Napoli Yeah he really would've done well competing with Klose, Floccari, Higuain and Insigne.
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Oct 5, 2013 21:07
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Olewithmilk posted:1) Emile Heskey 2) Tim Howard
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Oct 5, 2013 21:07
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pointsofdata posted:He seems to score just fine against international competition, it's not like he's only scored against CONCACAF and Dutch teams. It seems like this is exactly what happens, OP, unless you want to count international friendlies, or MK Dons.
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pointsofdata posted:This thread is pathetic, how can people who devote so much time to a sport, struggle so badly with analysing a match "hur dur he hasnt scored a garl yit so therefore he iz fkn shite" You appear to support at least 2 teams in the football league which is strange and please stop melting down
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Oct 5, 2013 21:11
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Shrapnac posted:2) Tim Howard 3) Rory Delap
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Reminder that Altidore and the Americans will yet again progress further in the World Cup than England. Makes you think.
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pointsofdata posted:This thread is pathetic, how can people who devote so much time to a sport, struggle so badly with analysing a match "hur dur he hasnt scored a garl yit so therefore he iz fkn shite"
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Spangly A posted:I've spent years watching incredibly poor target man with no idea how to play football, and this year Maiga and Petric have been excellent examples. Both of those shithouses are better than Jozy. Carlton Cole was better than Jozy, and he genuinely can't get a premier league contract right now. this is the most damming statement
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Your Weird Uncle posted:i support west ham united football club I don't think you do.
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pointsofdata posted:He seems to score just fine against international competition, it's not like he's only scored against CONCACAF and Dutch teams. Friendlies don't count.  In competitive fixtures, Jozy has scored a grand total of one (1) goal against a non-poo poo team. Much like his record in the Premier League, in fact.
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Oct 5, 2013 21:26
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Olewithmilk posted:3) Rory Delap 4) John Obi Mikel
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vyelkin posted:Friendlies don't count. I watch all the USAMNT non friendlies and he's incredibly bad in them as well he's a complete garbageman and his jozyliebers are embarrassing.
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Oct 5, 2013 21:27
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The confederations cup may as well be classed as a friendly tournament tbqh.
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Oct 5, 2013 21:28
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pointsofdata posted:He'll go somewhere else when we get relegated and start banging the goals in again when he gets good service, and people will still not be able to see that this Sunderland team is practically impossible for a striker to look good in. lol what do you mean again
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Oct 5, 2013 21:29
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vyelkin posted:In competitive fixtures, Jozy has scored a grand total of one (1) goal against a non-poo poo team. Much like his record in the Premier League, in fact. I actually saw that goal in Detroit, it was well taken.
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vaginal culture posted:I don't think you do. i could not care less what you think
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Jozy needs to embrace lad culture in a big way he is such a little nancyboy he plays like a big pussy i think he has body image issues in fact
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Jozy is dogshit.
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