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gmq posted:Mine has white marks from the keys but I stepped on it so yeah. Haha, good to know. I keep mine in my Horizontal Brain Cell pretty much all the time so I think I'm okay.
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terriyaki posted:Lexicon, try putting your laptop to sleep. I sometimes have this issue happen with my 15" rMBP and my U2412M as well. It's actually a Mac Mini hooked up to the display. Regardless, today it's apparently working! I did a reboot and a software update in between times, and now it works. Odd. Too bad there's apparently no command line method to sleep the display, as I'd ideally do this through Alfred, but no worries. Ctrl+Shift+Power will suffice.
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gmq posted:Mine has white marks from the keys but I stepped on it so yeah. Or just buy a Thinkpad if you want a laptop than can double as a welcome mat.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Apple event is October 22, for those holding out for a rMBP refresh. I hope they honour my student card, because I wanted to get myself one as a graduation present but I just realised it expired End June 2013 rather than end 2013  .
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They don't care. Most of the time they don't even check for me, otherwise they'll just glance at your student ID or ask you to log into your school's email or something.
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Fiki posted:Dang, just a month outside of my return window for the rMBP I bought. But I was under a time constraint of needing a laptop for school. If its the 15inch some would consider the old model superior, as the the Haswell version will reportedly do away with discrete graphics for the integrated-only Iris Pro.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:They don't care. Most of the time they don't even check for me, otherwise they'll just glance at your student ID or ask you to log into your school's email or something. Hopefully the store near me will be that lax, not having to pay the 20% VAT would be like a £200 saving.
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rufius posted:Wait. What the hell software do you need that hasn't transitioned to the Mactel world (if it's a game, I get it)? No modern equivalent available? Version 7 of this piece of poo poo. One of my jobs requires this, despite my frequent urging to upgrade or do the logical thing and transfer to InDesign. I share files with my boss so I can't upgrade unless she does, and she doesn't know InDesign. It's here. And my 14 day grace period extends one day past the announcement, just in case I decide I want something else instead.  Hope this means I can retroactively get a free upgrade to Mavericks.
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Bonobos posted:If its the 15inch some would consider the old model superior, as the the Haswell version will reportedly do away with discrete graphics for the integrated-only Iris Pro. A lot of the old speculation (including mine) was based on the apparent price premium Intel was charging for Iris Pro CPUs in their official price list, but then things like the new iMac happened (only the low-end 21 inch model uses Iris Pro). It may be the case that Intel didn't hit performance targets and OEMs like Apple decided to treat it as a more low end option (while extracting price concessions). If so that may have opened the door to keeping discrete graphics around for one more generation. Long term, discrete is dead though. It won't retain a performance advantage (in notebooks, at sane system power requirements for truly mobile machines) for more than one or two more years.
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Remember that they had an IGP only MBP 15" for a while before as the low end, so there's some precedence there too.Lexicon posted:It's actually a Mac Mini hooked up to the display. Regardless, today it's apparently working! I did a reboot and a software update in between times, and now it works. Odd.
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Star War Sex Parrot posted:Apple event is October 22, for those holding out for a rMBP refresh. I hope the Mac Pros make an appearance there.
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BobHoward posted:A lot of the old speculation (including mine) was based on the apparent price premium Intel was charging for Iris Pro CPUs in their official price list, but then things like the new iMac happened (only the low-end 21 inch model uses Iris Pro). It may be the case that Intel didn't hit performance targets and OEMs like Apple decided to treat it as a more low end option (while extracting price concessions). If so that may have opened the door to keeping discrete graphics around for one more generation. The chances of Apple releasing a 15" rMBP with Iris Pro (or, at least, Iris Pro as the only option) dropped to zero for me when they only made it available for the cheapest iMac. I think there's a good possibility of seeing it in the 13" one (maybe as a BTO option), but I'm pretty confident that that'll be about it. On the upside, maybe we'll see a quad-core 13" this year...  no we won't.
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So I'm looking at upgrading my 17" MBP because it's dying hard loving core and I haven't bought new tech in years. The problem is I'm a bit on the fence as to what to get. I used to have an air way back when they first came out, and I loved everything about it except for the battery life (I've heard it's really good now though), so I'm eying either the 13" or 11" air, though I'm really uncertain how to feel about the resolution after a 17", and I'm uncertain how comfortable the 11 would be as a near-primary computer if I was away from a base station all the time. I also like running Ableton Live with piles of VSTs, but I've heard that's not a huge problem. I've also considered jumping over to an iMac, though I'm curious if anyone here has tested one out for gaming (not that I do much, but I haven't really played games in years and it could be fun). Alternatively hope Apple isn't a bunch of shitbags and releases a 13" Retina update on the 22nd and that my 17" which now has to be plugged into a wall to function survives until then. 
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:So I'm looking at upgrading my 17" MBP because it's dying hard loving core and I haven't bought new tech in years. The problem is I'm a bit on the fence as to what to get. I used to have an air way back when they first came out, and I loved everything about it except for the battery life (I've heard it's really good now though), so I'm eying either the 13" or 11" air, though I'm really uncertain how to feel about the resolution after a 17", and I'm uncertain how comfortable the 11 would be as a near-primary computer if I was away from a base station all the time. I also like running Ableton Live with piles of VSTs, but I've heard that's not a huge problem. I've also considered jumping over to an iMac, though I'm curious if anyone here has tested one out for gaming (not that I do much, but I haven't really played games in years and it could be fun).
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My biggest complaint is that I don't like having that large a computer, the 13" is light at least but I'll be damned if I'm buying something right before the new one comes out. It's going to be a drat pain since the keyboard I use isn't offered in Canada so I'll have to order the laptop and head to the mainland + cross the border just to pick it up.
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My old Lenovo finally crapped out on me so I'm looking for a new system. My use case has changed since I bought that and now I'm looking for lighter (7lbs once you add the power brick.) I had considered getting the 13' air since its thin and light but due to how much reading I do on my laptop I figured MBP retina might be better. I saw that the new one was coming out on the 22nd though. Is it really worth it to wait for it? Battery life isn't that critical to me since I usually have an outlet near me, and transfer speed on drives is only a mild luxury. I had planned to get it this weekend since I can't really function at work without a laptop. Is there a convincing reason to wait?
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Kenishi posted:Is there a convincing reason to wait?
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Ya that's what I was reading. Just to clarify. Is the 22nd going to be the day it hits the shelf or will they unveil it then and launch a week or so later? Based on how they usually do it.
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Kenishi posted:Ya that's what I was reading. Just to clarify. Is the 22nd going to be the day it hits the shelf or will they unveil it then and launch a week or so later? Based on how they usually do it.
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So is the rumour mill pointing to a 13" refresh? How much horsepower is the 13" in comparison to a 13" Air? Also I'd still love to hear from anyone who used an 11" as their daily. 
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:So is the rumour mill pointing to a 13" refresh? WAFFLEHOUND posted:How much horsepower is the 13" in comparison to a 13" Air? I'm mostly looking at the 13" rMBP and 2012 Air performance data from these graphs: http://www.anandtech.com/show/7113/2013-macbook-air-core-i5-4250u-vs-core-i7-4650u/2 Yeah it's a 2013 Air performance article, but it includes 2012 machines so it's useful.
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drat, will haswell really make that big of a bump in new rMBPs, you think? Since it seems to me like it's a resolution vs battery life tradeoff.
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:So is the rumour mill pointing to a 13" refresh? How much horsepower is the 13" in comparison to a 13" Air? I've used the 11" as my daily computer for a couple months. You get used to it, though the lack of vertical space grates after a while. I think the rMBP lineup is so close in weight (and superior in form factor) that the only justifications for considering the Air right now are either battery life or cost. Which is fine, if that's your thing. Incidentally, it's a year away, but according to the supply chain leak yesterday the next generation of airs is finally going to be the one to get a chassis redesign.
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WAFFLEHOUND posted:So is the rumour mill pointing to a 13" refresh? How much horsepower is the 13" in comparison to a 13" Air? If you're that concerned about the 11", I'd go with the 13" Air instead. The 11" seems really neat because its *just so drat small* but I'm pretty sure it'd be a pain for me to use as my primary. The 13" is just as thin and only negligibly heavier- but the screen, palmrests, and SD card slot make it so much more usable IMO. Also, the only thing that's guaranteed to be announced on the 22nd is iPad stuff. While it would make sense for Apple to refresh the MBP lineup then, I wouldn't hold my breath for any absolute certainty. If you can wait, awesome- but if you need a new computer then get one. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 08:00 on Oct 10, 2013 |
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Electric Bugaloo posted:If you can wait, awesome- but if you need a new computer then get one. Another thing I thought about was get the MBP now and if they make a big announcement on the 22nd, return it. It'll still be in 14 days. Are apple stores pretty anal about returns?
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If it's working and within 14 days it's fine to return it. There's no fee or anything. That said, I don't think there will be an announcement. A lot of times with Mac refreshes it just shows up on the site. It could pop up tomorrow or 3 weeks from now. They only talk about it in Keynotes if it's a big deal like a new form factor or design.
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Electric Bugaloo posted:The chances of Apple releasing a 15" rMBP with Iris Pro (or, at least, Iris Pro as the only option) dropped to zero for me when they only made it available for the cheapest iMac. I think there's a good possibility of seeing it in the 13" one (maybe as a BTO option), but I'm pretty confident that that'll be about it.  13" will probably get plain ol Iris, and the Iris parts are lower wattage than the current 13" MBP's parts to boot (on top of the general Haswell efficiency improvements). I'm really interested in seeing what kind of battery life they'll get. WAFFLEHOUND posted:drat, will haswell really make that big of a bump in new rMBPs, you think? Since it seems to me like it's a resolution vs battery life tradeoff. Either way I'd suggest the 13" retina cause the resolution considering you're coming from a 17". The virtual resolution only goes to 1680x1050 (vs the 15" going to 1920x1200) but its form factor has a smaller footprint than the 13" MBA and only weighs around half a pound more.
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Mercurius posted:I was going to suggest a retina MBP since I have a 15" and you can run the screen at 'effectively 1920x1200' resolution. They're absolute monsters hardware-wise, too. 1920x1200? I thought they were 2880x1800. ijyt fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Oct 10, 2013 |
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ijyt posted:1920x1200? I thought they were 2560x1600. They are, but you can choose to run the screen at other resolutions and since the pixels are so small it looks alright. You can even run the 13" at 1920x1200 with QuickRes
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Bob Morales posted:They are, but you can choose to run the screen at other resolutions and since the pixels are so small it looks alright. You can even run the 13" at 1920x1200 with QuickRes Yeah, I just had a bit of a morning idiot moment. 2560x1600 would be fine on the usual 30" monitor but then I remembered these were screens ijyt fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Oct 10, 2013 |
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ijyt posted:Yeah, I just had a bit of a morning idiot moment. 2560x1600 would be fine on the usual 30" monitor but then I remembered these were screens have that size, so native resolution would barely be legible. There are people on forums who claim to use their Retinas at native res.
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japtor posted:Either way I'd suggest the 13" retina cause the resolution considering you're coming from a 17". The virtual resolution only goes to 1680x1050 (vs the 15" going to 1920x1200) but its form factor has a smaller footprint than the 13" MBA and only weighs around half a pound more. Shoot, if it's literally half a pound more I may have to do that. I don't plan on needing the battery life that much. Can you still return something within the window if it was upgraded? Say, nonstandard keyboard, HDD upgrade, etc.?
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The 13" Retina already has a 7 hour battery, it should increase when they get Haswell. Plus Mavericks. You should be looking at 10-hours at least. If it comes out with a 12-hour battery it will probably be the first Mac I buy on launch day.
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I'm looking forward to seeing the specs for the next MBP. It'll certainly help me with my decision on getting either that or an iMac to replace my early 2009 iMac later on.
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Does anybody happen to know if the 2012 Macbook Air can be used with the larger battery from the 2013? My battery is now below 50% capacity an it is time to replace it. The new 2013 MBA has a battery with a "carrier" and connector that appears to be identical to the old one. It has a nominal voltage of 7.6 V instead of 7.3 V, but a ~4% increase doesn’t seem like a huge difference considering the voltage of Li-ion batteries fluctuates depending on their state of charge. The capacity would be higher too (7150 vs 6700 mAh) which would be nice for that extra half an hour of battery life or so.
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What, you bought a 2013 MBA battery thinking it'll work fine in a 2012 MBA? Please feel free to tell us the results, but if you take it to a Fruit Stand and ask them to put in a 2013 MBA battery into a 2012, I am very sure they won't do that.
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Bob Morales posted:The 13" Retina already has a 7 hour battery, it should increase when they get Haswell. Plus Mavericks. You should be looking at 10-hours at least. A 3 hour bump in battery life seems very optimistic. What is making people think this will happen?
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Binary Badger posted:What, you bought a 2013 MBA battery thinking it'll work fine in a 2012 MBA? The better battery capacity was also due to slightly shrinking the SSD footprint for the 2013 model.
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I said come in! posted:A 3 hour bump in battery life seems very optimistic. What is making people think this will happen? The Airs pulling that jump off.
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Binary Badger posted:What, you bought a 2013 MBA battery thinking it'll work fine in a 2012 MBA? No, I am about to buy a 2013 MBA battery hoping it will work fine in my 2012. The batteries aren’t hard to replace, I have the screwdrivers and the warranty is no problem since I didn’t buy Applecare for such a relatively cheap device. Some comments on ifixit indicate it works fine: http://www.ifixit.com/Answers/View/131665/Will+the+A1496+batery+fit+in+Mid+2011+MacBook+Air
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