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Same thing is happening in China and South Africa already. South Africa's stadia are all but deserted.
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I can't help but think it would be more cost-effective to select a country to host a permanent Olympics site. It's pretty clear at this point that the one-off of the Olympics never brings in enough money to offset the cost of building all the infrastructure, a lot of which never gets used again.
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sepp blatter puts any north american sports figure to shame. not only is he objectively racist and sexist his corruption is both complete and transparent. he paid african delegates $100,000 a piece to vote for him in his 1998 election to the fifa presidency. through an intermediate. the delegate from qatar. where the next world cup is being held. the delegate from qatar who was later suspended for ethics violations.
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Oct 10, 2013 08:11
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Redeye Flight posted:I can't help but think it would be more cost-effective to select a country to host a permanent Olympics site. It's pretty clear at this point that the one-off of the Olympics never brings in enough money to offset the cost of building all the infrastructure, a lot of which never gets used again. They're getting a little smarter; IOC and FIFA are kinda, sorta working together. They gave Brazil the 2014 World Cup and the 2016 Olympics, which should help cover some of the costs. Russia got the 2018 games and is hosting the winter games in 2014, so Sochi's Olympic stadium should get some double-use. Since Qatar is getting the 2022 World Cup, it's possible they also get the 2024 Olympics, but the ban on gays may be a far more serious issue for Olympics. Still, it's justification for a pretty lovely process and the exploitation of slowly developing countries who should absolutely be spending this money on infrastructure rather than international sports.
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The broken bones posted:They're getting a little smarter; IOC and FIFA are kinda, sorta working together. They gave Brazil the 2014 World Cup and the 2016 Olympics, which should help cover some of the costs. Russia got the 2018 games and is hosting the winter games in 2014, so Sochi's Olympic stadium should get some double-use. Since Qatar is getting the 2022 World Cup, it's possible they also get the 2024 Olympics, but the ban on gays may be a far more serious issue for Olympics. Hell, we could put the Olympics in loving Greece, which is where they originated. Greece still has most of the infrastructure and it would cost a lot less to refurbish the poo poo that's deteriorated than building all-new poo poo. It'd also give a huge, regular cash boost to Greece's economy, which is primarily tourist-based anyway.
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The broken bones posted:Since Qatar is getting the 2022 World Cup, it's possible they also get the 2024 Olympics, but the ban on gays may be a far more serious issue for Olympics. Maybe 10 more years of social change will make a difference, but Russia has basically banned homosexuality and they're in no danger of losing the games.
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Redeye Flight posted:Hell, we could put the Olympics in loving Greece, which is where they originated. Greece still has most of the infrastructure and it would cost a lot less to refurbish the poo poo that's deteriorated than building all-new poo poo. It'd also give a huge, regular cash boost to Greece's economy, which is primarily tourist-based anyway. They did in 2004. Unless you're saying put it there permanently? Which would be nice for historical accuracy.
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dshban posted:They did in 2004. Unless you're saying put it there permanently? Which would be nice for historical accuracy. Yeah, that's what I'm getting at. Making Greece the permanent location invokes all kinds of callbacks to the historical Olympics and the shared Greek dickli--I mean, heritage that all or most modern nations aspire to. That it would provide a nice permanent boost to the Greek economy, which as mentioned is VERY strongly tourist-based, would also be a big positive. The downside is that other countries would stop getting that cash infusion, but as already discussed that infusion isn't enough to offset the cost of rebuilding international-capacity infrastructure every 20 years or so. It also raises the question as to where to put the Winter Olympics, since Greece's winters are pretty mild and not looking to get colder thanks to climate change. Redeye Flight fucked around with this message at 09:48 on Oct 10, 2013 |
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They're not going to stop moving the Olympics around because it's not about money. Countries want to show off to the rest of the world, meanwhile the Olympic committee gets to be treated like tiny kings. Nobody has ever consulted or will ever consult any of the people who actually need that cash. Just like nobody's ever going to consult the homeless people that always get rounded up.
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Mornacale posted:They're not going to stop moving the Olympics around because it's not about money. Countries want to show off to the rest of the world, meanwhile the Olympic committee gets to be treated like tiny kings. Nobody has ever consulted or will ever consult any of the people who actually need that cash. Just like nobody's ever going to consult the homeless people that always get rounded up.
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AceFace905 posted:It's really become the modern equivalent of the World's Fair (not that there aren't World's Fairs anymore, just nobody gives a poo poo the way they used to) Shanghai hosted a World Expo in 2010 and the site for that is like a military complex now. That city is so vibrant and amazing, but the Expo location is off to one side, separate from everything and it seems completely abandoned. That was only three years ago, I can only imagine what it will look like in a decade.
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Remember Rick Reilly's father-in-law who was totally cool with the Redskins name? Well, he isn't behind that name in the slightest. http://deadspin.com/rick-reillys-am...dium=socialflow
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Rick Reilly has to be fired. Either he deliberately and completely misrepresented someone or he's too stupid to comprehend basic human interaction.
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ElwoodCuse posted:Rick Reilly has to be fired. Either he deliberately and completely misrepresented someone or he's too stupid to comprehend basic human interaction.
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ElwoodCuse posted:Rick Reilly has to be fired. Either he deliberately and completely misrepresented someone or he's too stupid to comprehend basic human interaction. I don't see how this can be walked back so yeah
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That is way down on the list of reasons to fire him, but sure.
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ElwoodCuse posted:Rick Reilly has to be fired. Either he deliberately and completely misrepresented someone or he's too stupid to comprehend basic human interaction. His father in law wrote that he has repeatedly asked Reilly to correct his column by putting his words in context. Rick has refused to do so. He's just a turd.
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I just keep thinking about what Reilly's wife must be thinking and oh man.
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Emanuel Collective posted:His father in law wrote that he has repeatedly asked Reilly to correct his column by putting his words in context. Rick has refused to do so. He's just a turd. No see, Doug Gottlieb knows that he didn't misunderstand his father in laws words, what REALLY happened was all of his friends called him up and were like DUDE its racist and that the elder council of the tribe is basically just like the NCAA board of regents and leaned on him to do this. God dammit why do I listen to sports radio.
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At least don't listen to Doug Gottlieb jesus christ E; Satisfying answers! https://twitter.com/ReillyRick/status/388441470350680064 Rick Reilly posted:
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Holy poo poo, PFTCommenter is killing it.PFTCommenter posted:no offence but who didnt see it coming that the Indian guy woud go back on his own word quote:not 2 be racist quote:Next thing u no well find out Riley doesnt think teeth are funny at all smh
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Groucho Marxist posted:Remember Rick Reilly's father-in-law who was totally cool with the Redskins name? Well, he isn't behind that name in the slightest. It's not even a slight mischaracterization of his opinion. It's just the complete opposite.
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Mr. Funny Pants posted:Holy poo poo, PFTCommenter is killing it. So perfect that I almost assume he pulled that from an actual PFT comment.
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Do you think that Adrian Peterson is to blame for his son's brutal, unthinkable murder? Because he got a speeding ticket and stuck around in a club too long? Because he had a child out of wedlock? Because Peterson's own father was a criminal? No? Well Phil Mushnick is here to blow your mind:Son's Death Doesn't Make Adrian Peterson A Great Person posted:We in the media — especially those working event broadcasts — have a horrible habit of blindly or wishfully reporting great achievers are additionally blessed: They’re great humans. http://nypost.com/2013/10/13/sons-death-doesnt-make-adrian-peterson-a-great-person/?utm_source=SFnewyorkpost&utm_medium=SFnewyorkpost
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Emanuel Collective posted:Do you think that Adrian Peterson is to blame for his son's brutal, unthinkable murder? Because he got a speeding ticket and stuck around in a club too long? Because he had a child out of wedlock? Because Peterson's own father was a criminal? No? Well Phil Mushnick is here to blow your mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M86c6DqaHTw
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Emanuel Collective posted:Do you think that Adrian Peterson is to blame for his son's brutal, unthinkable murder? Because he got a speeding ticket and stuck around in a club too long? Because he had a child out of wedlock? Because Peterson's own father was a criminal? No? Well Phil Mushnick is here to blow your mind: that's maybe the most despicable thing I've ever read. e: I mean I know he's a NY Post writer and they're all shooting for the lowest common denominator, but seriously, that lowered the bar quite a bit.
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The broken bones posted:that's maybe the most despicable thing I've ever read. After seeing the Post link and the title I knew it was Mushnick and decided not to read it. Mushnick is a crotchety "back in my day where white men ruled the world" kind of concern troll.
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I stopped reading him a few years ago. He's literally a broken record who works for a newspaper that contradicts a lot of what he says. I feel like my life is better for it.
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Emanuel Collective posted:Do you think that Adrian Peterson is to blame for his son's brutal, unthinkable murder? Because he got a speeding ticket and stuck around in a club too long? Because he had a child out of wedlock? Because Peterson's own father was a criminal? No? Well Phil Mushnick is here to blow your mind: Having never heard of this guy, I think you folks that said you stopped reading him with a mild "oh he's crotchety and trolly" dismissal should at least upgrade your dismissal to "this dude is a real piece of poo poo", because man is that a creepy, awful hit piece.
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I wonder how that dude feels about welfare programs (hint he only thinks the children of wealthy nfl players deserve to be provided for)
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Reformed Pissboy posted:Having never heard of this guy, I think you folks that said you stopped reading him with a mild "oh he's crotchety and trolly" dismissal should at least upgrade your dismissal to "this dude is a real piece of poo poo", because man is that a creepy, awful hit piece. Last year in this thread we brought up his racist piece on the Brooklyn Nets logo. And nothing came of it. http://nypost.com/2012/05/04/dont-rely-on-media-to-evaluate-bad-behavior/#ixzz1tv7HYjXM
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Reformed Pissboy posted:Having never heard of this guy, I think you folks that said you stopped reading him with a mild "oh he's crotchety and trolly" dismissal should at least upgrade your dismissal to "this dude is a real piece of poo poo", because man is that a creepy, awful hit piece. I've been reading Mushnick since I was a kid. I'm going to guess he wrote something vaguely racist and sexist, and severely out of touch, that contradicted and criticized a media narrative on a hot button issue. Is that about right? He's been doing that gimmick for at least 20 or 25 years, probably longer.
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Vertical Lime posted:Last year in this thread we brought up his racist piece on the Brooklyn Nets logo. And nothing came of it. Casual racism is a dime a dozen in journalism, but pissing on the grave of a dead child and a mourning father is pretty cutting edge. People are right that Mushnick has been a troll for years, though he mostly focused on the WWE and nobody paid attention. He's been expanding his range in old age.
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jeffersonlives posted:I've been reading Mushnick since I was a kid. I'm going to guess he wrote something vaguely racist and sexist, and severely out of touch, that contradicted and criticized a media narrative on a hot button issue. Is that about right? He's been doing that gimmick for at least 20 or 25 years, probably longer. That doesn't strike me as a "gimmick".
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Emanuel Collective posted:Casual racism is a dime a dozen in journalism, but pissing on the grave of a dead child and a mourning father is pretty cutting edge. People are right that Mushnick has been a troll for years, though he mostly focused on the WWE and nobody paid attention. He's been expanding his range in old age. Mushnick has been writing crazy racist things about NBA players for like 10 years plus at this point. Maybe outside of New York nobody paid attention but his AP column is just an extension of his ~NBA thug~ rage.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:FIFA and FIA put anything that North America can come up with to shame. It also gave the world Joao Havelange, who transformed FIFA from an administrative body into what it is today.
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The NYTimes has a good article up right now about 'clutch' hitters. Nothing surprising to most SAS readers but it's nice to have a lot of evidence laid out. Turns out good hitters are generally good and clutch is mostly perception.
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Mozi posted:The NYTimes has a good article up right now about 'clutch' hitters. Nothing surprising to most SAS readers but it's nice to have a lot of evidence laid out. Turns out good hitters are generally good and clutch is mostly perception.
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Buster Olney wrote this short paragraph today that made my eyes bleed, enjoy.quote:Cabrera is regarded with awe by other players and is generally known as the best hitter on the planet. He can't run and he's a right-handed hitter, and despite those disadvantages, he's won three straight American League batting titles.
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leokitty posted:Buster Olney wrote this short paragraph today that made my eyes bleed, enjoy.
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