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Speaking of security certs, is there any real value to CEH? It seems like it would be a pretty fun cert but I'm just not sure if it actually serves any practical purpose. I've worked in security for the last two years and currently I'm the "network and security guy" for my company.
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CISSP definitely on my to-do list after my VCP. Mainly because all my IT buddies work in security and corporate governance and they can get me in. They make bank so I'm willing to give it a try for a while 
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MJP posted:Edit: So I took the VCA plunge and after seeing the questions I am flabbergasted that VMware would charge money for this. If you can interpret marketing stuff into IT then you'll have no problem, and if it's to certify knowledge then it sure as hell certifies that you paid attention to the presentation. I blew through it in about 15 minutes and I'm almost too embarrassed to add it to my cert list on LinkedIn. (Almost.) But hey, money well-spent ($0 after voucher)
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CatsOnTheInternet posted:I blew through it in about 15 minutes and I'm almost too embarrassed to add it to my cert list on LinkedIn. (Almost.) How/where'd you get the voucher? I'm interested in picking up other certs regardless of the "quality". Anything I can do to my profile/resume I'm looking to add it. It also helps I find virtualization an interesting topic
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smokmnky posted:How/where'd you get the voucher? I'm interested in picking up other certs regardless of the "quality". Anything I can do to my profile/resume I'm looking to add it. It also helps I find virtualization an interesting topic A few pages back (either here or the Virtualization thread, I forget) someone posted a discount code that stacked with the 50% off promo already running on Pearson's site. The net result was the exam was totally free. It was only good for a few days, though, and might be expired by now. Also not to stir up this shitstorm again, but the "difficulty" of the VCA certs is not being exaggerated. It's literally just regurgitating VMware marketing materials and can be completed in 10 minutes. I'm not sure I could recommend paying money for the cert, even to someone with no experience whatsoever. It's a joke.
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Docjowles posted:A few pages back (either here or the Virtualization thread, I forget) someone posted a discount code that stacked with the 50% off promo already running on Pearson's site. The net result was the exam was totally free. It was only good for a few days, though, and might be expired by now. That makes sense but if I can get it for free I can't see how it'd hurt as a starting point.
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Docjowles posted:A few pages back (either here or the Virtualization thread, I forget) someone posted a discount code that stacked with the 50% off promo already running on Pearson's site. The net result was the exam was totally free. It was only good for a few days, though, and might be expired by now. Still works QPZIL posted:Psssssst, hey... hey you... yeah, you... come over here for a second... *edit* passed. Yeah it's a joke. CrazyLittle fucked around with this message at 01:05 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Oct 11, 2013 00:13
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spidoman posted:Seems like most of the people complaining about the CISSP being dumbed down just really want it to be a technical certification. If you did technical proficiency on all ten topics... I see a thousand people in the world being able to get the certification. If you want technical proficiency look for those certifications. It's like complaining that you asked for a basketball player and are shocked when they don't play football. Well in my case, I didn't realize what it was until I already went to the bootcamp  I'm sure that some people out there get value out of it and I want to as well but right now it's vendor certs for me to get practical, technical stuff under my belt. I don't know that I necessarily wasted time with the CISSP but it seems like putting the cart before the horse if you get it as early in your career as I have. And for whatever reason, the feds seem to circle-jerk over it to an insane degree.But hey, free CISSP; can't complain too much, right? Sergeant Hobo fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Oct 11, 2013 |
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Sergeant Hobo posted:Well in my case, I didn't realize what it was until I already went to the bootcamp How early in your career are you? Is there still a requirement to get a reference for five years of experience?
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exethan posted:How early in your career are you? Is there still a requirement to get a reference for five years of experience? 5 years or 4+ a bachelors degree.
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Oct 11, 2013 19:00
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Woop, my Stanley ICM course is now showing as completed in my VMware myLearn portal. Next step: VCP5-DCV 
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Oct 11, 2013 21:33
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I gave Stanly my dad's address in Wisconsin and told them I was moving so I'm back on track.
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Oct 11, 2013 21:35
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Finally getting around to taking my RHCSA and RHCE exams. Enjoy my money, RedHat. RHCSA on Tuesday.
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exethan posted:How early in your career are you? Is there still a requirement to get a reference for five years of experience? I've got nearly 4 years post-college under my belt.
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I work in data centers as an IT operations/services manager. I'm looking to get some classes/certs as I'm kind of coasting at my current position and want to position myself to move up and get knowledge to help me in the long run. I've been looking at ITIL, PMP, Six Sigma, and such, but does anyone have any input on these or certs that would be good for my area? Better yet, what would be the reputable places to train/take the courses? It seems when i dig into these places that offer training certs there is always mixed opinionsn their legitimacy.
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I did ITIL Foundation through here: http://www.thoughtrock.com/theitilexam/ They provide a cbt and then you take an online exam proctored through a webcam. It's pretty goddamn boring fwiw!
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Oct 12, 2013 08:44
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CCNA Voice is quite fun. Most of my battle right now is getting the right equipment together. CCNA R&S is almost a joke in comparison as almost nothing needs to be known about hardware if you have a lab sim. I'm enjoying it though. Rather than get ripped off buying kits I'm buying the routers/equipment I need and installing the components myself. The goal should never be to pass a test but to actually learn what you are doing. Setting up a real lab is proving to be a bit pricey but I'd rather not do it on GNS3. DropsySufferer fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Oct 12, 2013 |
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Oct 12, 2013 17:33
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Learn about OSPF with the greatest IT video ever made.
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pram posted:I did ITIL Foundation through here: yeah i've read its boring....but is it still a relevant cert? I've read that its lost some of its muster, but people i talk to said, for whatever reason hiring managers cream their pants when they see it. Personally, i don't really look at certs when i hire techs, other than differing between 2 close candiates, but hiring techs and hiring managers are two different beasts.
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Pudgygiant posted:Learn about OSPF with the greatest IT video ever made. Desperately need them to do a BGP vid.
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Martytoof posted:Desperately need them to do a BGP vid. Not a convenient video, I grant, but if you want to know way too much about BGP, you can't go wrong with this: http://www.amazon.com/Internet-Routing-Architectures-2nd-Edition/dp/157870233X
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Oh I own the book already, I just long for it to be described in annoying 2000-era europop
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Can't argue with that.
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ITIL is boring as gently caress and means gently caress all if your organization doesn't implement it. So, hit or miss. My company paid for it, but we dont subscribe to the model so I didnt see the point.
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BigT posted:yeah i've read its boring....but is it still a relevant cert? I've read that its lost some of its muster, but people i talk to said, for whatever reason hiring managers cream their pants when they see it. Depends, the company I worked at based their organization on ITIL so it had some value... I guess?? I think ITIL is more important in the UK/Europe.
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Pudgygiant posted:Learn about OSPF with the greatest IT video ever made. Not so informative but the author links to this other youtub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPtr43KHBGk
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I let my CCENT expire becuase i'm an idiot/lazy/both. I want to start thinking about doing to new exam (100-101)? It's been a while since I worked towards the CCENT, where is the best place to learn? Are there any recommended videos/resources/documents to help me though?
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I'd go with Lammle's book as it's easier to read then the cisco press books. Try to get the CBT nuggets videos as well, Jeremy is one of the few not boring tech people I've ever heard. The new exam covers a few more topics at the CCENT level, do note that IPv6 is included. You'll need a lab simulator but I'm assuming you had one already if you were able to get your CCENT the first time.
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DropsySufferer posted:I'd go with Lammle's book as it's easier to read then the cisco press books. Try to get the CBT nuggets videos as well, Jeremy is one of the few not boring tech people I've ever heard. The new exam covers a few more topics at the CCENT level, do note that IPv6 is included. You'll need a lab simulator but I'm assuming you had one already if you were able to get your CCENT the first time. I have access to Packet Tracer as I used to be an academy student. Also where did you get the videos from? CBT nuggets directly? Are they expensive?
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cbtnuggets.com and the videos are $99. It really depends, do you learn well just from a book or does a lecture help as well?
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DropsySufferer posted:cbtnuggets.com and the videos are $99. It really depends, do you learn well just from a book or does a lecture help as well? I've studied a free series for a MS exam (professor messer or something) and I found it a lot easier to learn from than reading a book.
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Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, my brain is kind of mush right now so I might be missing the obvious. I'm looking to get certs for something entry-level ASAP. I studied for an old version of the A+, but never took the test itself. Aside from that, my experience is just setting up and fixing home networks and PCs. I was planning on getting the A+, MCSA, and CCNA as quickly as I could get through them. Is the N+ worth getting if I'm already going for a CCNA? Or is the CCNA difficult enough that I should get the N+ for the immediate job hunt?
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22 Eargesplitten posted:Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions, my brain is kind of mush right now so I might be missing the obvious. I'm looking to get certs for something entry-level ASAP. I studied for an old version of the A+, but never took the test itself. Aside from that, my experience is just setting up and fixing home networks and PCs. I was planning on getting the A+, MCSA, and CCNA as quickly as I could get through them. Is the N+ worth getting if I'm already going for a CCNA? Or is the CCNA difficult enough that I should get the N+ for the immediate job hunt? I'd suggest you not bother with N+. You can do the CCNA in two parts, CCENT and then full-blown CCNA. Consider getting your CCENT and then you can decide if it's worth it to you to finish out the second half. You'll get most if not all the knowledge you'd have gotten from Network+ and be halfway to a CCNA.
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DropsySufferer posted:cbtnuggets.com and the videos are $99. It really depends, do you learn well just from a book or does a lecture help as well? I would use cbt nuggets to augment, never the sole learning material. They do provide a lot of good production FYI, but they gently caress up terribly (the R2 videos they foobar the directaccess configuration and just say "welp this isn't what your supposed to do...installing the role on a DC. See ya.") on occasion.
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incoherent posted:I would use cbt nuggets to augment, never the sole learning material. They do provide a lot of good production FYI, but they gently caress up terribly (the R2 videos they foobar the directaccess configuration and just say "welp this isn't what your supposed to do...installing the role on a DC. See ya.") on occasion. I second this. Read official ciscopress stuff and when you're tired of Wendell Odom, put on some Jeremy freestyle to ease up At least that is what I did for CCNP track (old one).
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Alternatively, watch CBTNuggets first as a rough ROUGH overview and then go brush up with Wendel. I found that Jeremy is good at giving you a 10,000 foot overview of a topic but covering zero details. You'll get the concept, at the very least.
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The trainsignal videos I've watched are pretty nice, and it's $50/month. It also will include/does include pluralsight shortly, so that's cool I guess. Also, passed my RHCSA. Only got a 250 though, which is kind of perplexing, because I triple checked everything. 
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Is there a way to get an evaluation copy of ACS without having a corporate/partner account with Cisco?  I just want to dick around with my CCNA:Sec lab, but that's the big missing piece there.
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I recently completed the SANS GSEC on-demand course, funded through my employer. I managed 94% in the 5 hour exam with 20 minutes to spare. Apparently scoring above a certain amount get's you an invite to the SANS Advisory Board and Mentor Team, though it seems mostly as a way to sell SANS training to colleagues. Supposedly you can take the exam without doing a course however I'm not sure how much you can pick up through other means without having the official text provided by SANS since you get 7 fairly large printed books and the exam is based entirely on them. The exam is open book but there simply isn't enough time to check every single question, so I advise you make an index to save time flipping through the text. I did one of the practice tests the night before without an index and though I finished much quicker I also only got 86%, so the index did provide a noticeable bump. Now I could do with some advice. I'm now wondering about my next cert and curious about the options available. Some background - I joined an investment bank as a graduate out of university, having studied Computer Science and already having previously completed the CCNA, A+ certs and an internship at another bank in their Networking team. I spent 6 months in Messaging, looking after Exchange and blackberry enterprise servers then rotated into Information Security - where I've been for 2.5 years now. I predominantly do project work on DLP but have some crosstraining using Splunk and Lumension products. My bosses regard the SANS GSEC course quite highly and on the same level as CISSP, though I am considering doing CISSP anyway. My CCNA cert expired some time ago and apparently the subject matter has changed a few times since then, so redoing that is another option. I enjoy the security space but would like to pick up certifications that would be useful in other roles as I don't want to over-specialise. I'm considering moving on from my current role in February or so and curious about what other jobs my security experience would prove useful in. Doug posted:Speaking of security certs, is there any real value to CEH? It seems like it would be a pretty fun cert but I'm just not sure if it actually serves any practical purpose. I've worked in security for the last two years and currently I'm the "network and security guy" for my company. I don't think CEH will prove useful unless you're looking to move into a penetration-testing role. Certainly no one I know at the bank I work for has it since we contract out all of the pen-testing. Friends who do pen-testing are entirely devoted to it, since you have to remain current with the intricate details of individual exploits to stay competitive. Farbauti fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Oct 16, 2013 |
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Farbauti posted:I recently completed the SANS GSEC on-demand course, funded through my employer. I managed 94% in the 5 hour exam with 20 minutes to spare. Apparently scoring above a certain amount get's you an invite to the SANS Advisory Board and Mentor Team, though it seems mostly as a way to sell SANS training to colleagues. What do you want to do in the long run? If you want to stick with SANS, GCFW (firewalls), GCIA (intrusion analyst), GCIH (intrusion handler), and more are logical next steps. I know a lot of people put a lot on the CISSP, but it is such a poo poo cert that it really doesn't have any weight in my opinion. Only people who care are hiring managers and government.
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