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They're currently in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, days from the nearest coastline, so I'm sure Durkon can prepare multiple Wind Walks if that's the strategy they go with. Besides, he can use Gaseous Form indefinitely.
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I'd like to see someone try to force Durkon to Transport via Plant. I'm not sure if this would be funnier earlier, or funnier now that he is a vampire.
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Oct 11, 2013 00:40
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Couldn't they just cast flight on the dinosaur?
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Oct 11, 2013 01:22
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Can you fit a T-Rex into a bag of holding, breathing issues aside?
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Oct 11, 2013 01:25
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World Famous Whore posted:Can you fit a T-Rex into a bag of holding, breathing issues aside? I think a dinosaur would weigh too much even for the largest bag of holding, and it would be almost impossible to get it inside one in the first place.
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Oct 11, 2013 01:35
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jng2058 posted:The problem with Wind Walk is that you transform into an insubstantial mist form that gets blown around by magical wind. That makes it hard to carry things. He could just cast the spell twice if they really want to bring the Dinosaur. Wouldn't he need another one for Mr. Scruffy and Blackwing anyways, or are they just going to travel in FamiliarSpace?
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Oct 11, 2013 02:36
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We've already seen the Order going out of their way to help Mr. Scruffy so I think the alternate dimension FamiliarSpace they disappear to no longer applies here. Too bad they don't have Azurite Pokeball technology. Blackwing could just fly provided he gets some decent meals along the way--after all, plenty of real birds migrate between continents twice a year.
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Oct 11, 2013 06:28
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Ravens aren't distance flyers. They don't migrate as far as I know. The are hella agile though.
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Oct 11, 2013 08:20
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Familiars count as equipment/self when they need to, according to the rules. Mr scruffy is not so lucky.
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Eifert Posting posted:Ravens aren't distance flyers. They don't migrate as far as I know. The are hella agile though. There's also the part where Windwalk means cruising along continuously at 60mph for Durkon's level in hours. I think that's a bit much for a bird (though also a moot point given the above).
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Oct 11, 2013 20:49
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What is the air speed velocity of an unladen Raven?
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Oct 11, 2013 21:24
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greatn posted:What is the air speed velocity of an unladen Raven? Plot 
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Familiars get the same buffs their masters get through the Share Spells ability, so Blackwing could fly as effortlessly as V.
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Oct 14, 2013 13:48
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Well, it looks like we now know how and why the T-Rex will die. This should be pretty awesome.
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Oct 14, 2013 13:52
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Oct 14, 2013 13:53
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We've got a new plot point with Laurin's favor! I would be thrilled if we spent another book in the desert dealing with all of this. Tarquin's party is great.
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Oct 14, 2013 13:54
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Looks like this thing is getting settled! I'm getting some subtle vibes off Tarquin's buddies that they might have started to consider him a liability and plan to nip that in the bud. Can't really point to anything in particular as a clear indication for that, except maybe that when people in OotS say things like "by all means, mighty general" it rarely ends well for at least one party involved.
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Oct 14, 2013 14:02
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Oh no, what if something happens to Tarquin and that's the end of The Order of the Tarquin? He's just so awesome and interesting and not played out at all you guys.
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My Lovely Horse posted:Looks like this thing is getting settled! Actually I got the opposite vibe. Rich used this strip to point out how a Lawful/Neutral Evil party would work in terms of co-operation; mutual self-interest. The other two aren't helping out Tarquin 'just because', he calls in a favour off one of them and Laurin demands a future favour in exchange for her help. There's no greater cause or altruism binding them, just trust and a structured system of obligation that lets them call upon each other. 'Evil characters are rational and nuanced' being a drum that Rich likes to bang over and over again.
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Oct 14, 2013 14:22
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I really, really hope that Roy cleaves Tarquin the gently caress in half. It would be a fitting end for that jerk.
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Anyone familiar with that wormhole power? Psychoportation seems like a discipline that would take a lot of psionic power points. Especially if you already held one big enough for trexs open long enough for an army. Also, Belkar still has Tarquin's axe, right?
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greatn posted:Anyone familiar with that wormhole power? Psychoportation seems like a discipline that would take a lot of psionic power points. Especially if you already held one big enough for trexs open long enough for an army. I can't find any Power similar to the effects of the Wormhole in the SRD, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be an Epic Power or a researched one. As for power cost, a 9th level power costs 17pp (but can be augmented) while an Epic Psion has 343pp base. If she has a low Intelligence stat for an Epic character, say 20, that's a bonus 50pp for a total of 393pp, which lets her cast 23 9th level powers with a few pp left over. So it's not like she doesn't have the points for a few manifestings. And if it's an Epic Power, then it costs no points: d20srd.org posted:Just as spellcasters use no spell slots to cast epic spells, psionic characters use no power points to manifest epic powers. Instead, they freely manifest their known epic powers a number of times per day equal to their Knowledge (psionics) skill divided by 10 (round down).
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You know, I should have realized Tarquin would be getting back into play...why else spend a panel re-arming him with the whip if he was never going to use it? On one hand Tarquin stood off the whole Order (less V) by himself, and with Miron and Laurin to back him up he'll be that much tougher. On the other hand, V is here this time and with many or even most of her spells intact AND Durkon's become Durkula. Should be an interesting fight.
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Even Belkar's death is back on the table since none of Tarquin's team use arrows or projectiles.
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Why do I think Laurin's favor is of the sexual kind? Also I'm interested in seeing how nasty of a badass Miron is. I mean, all three of them saw the Order fight, and they're still pretty confident, and I don't think it's hubris. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Who What Now posted:I can't find any Power similar to the effects of the Wormhole in the SRD, but that doesn't mean it couldn't be an Epic Power or a researched one. As for power cost, a 9th level power costs 17pp (but can be augmented) while an Epic Psion has 343pp base. If she has a low Intelligence stat for an Epic character, say 20, that's a bonus 50pp for a total of 393pp, which lets her cast 23 9th level powers with a few pp left over. So it's not like she doesn't have the points for a few manifestings. And if it's an Epic Power, then it costs no points: Ah, the only time I messed with phonics was way back in second edition, and psychoportation schools took a poo poo ton of pp's. Also was broken, having powers such as unrestricted time travel.
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None of Tarquin's team is Epic, but they're certainly very high level.
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Noah posted:Why do I think Laurin's favor is of the sexual kind? Good question, why do you think that? More seriously, establishing the favor thing makes me think they probably won't be killed in the upcoming confrontation, just so that we can have a chance to see what that favor is. Of course, asking for a favor might just be a plot device to help explain why Tarquin's party members now want to get involved and show how they normally operate, without actually getting explored. Or maybe it'll be some kind of end-of-arc gag once they're dead? Cut to her daughter and she's complaining about a tax audit, or something? Whatever happens, this should really be it for the Tarquin plot. Of all the things he's inheriting from Nale, staying well past the point the plot should've moved on isn't something he should keep.
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Noah posted:Why do I think Laurin's favor is of the sexual kind? Because you're a pervert.  I think her favor is buying a ticket for her daughter to the Eastern Continent, or some other safety-guaranteeing measure.
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Colonel Cool posted:Man I have no idea how the Order is supposed to survive this one. Ian saves them.
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Glory of Arioch posted:Because you're a pervert. Yeah it's almost assuredly something Tarquinn can do to make her daughter safe, that seems to be pretty much her #1 priority.
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Colonel Cool posted:Man I have no idea how the Order is supposed to survive this one. Maybe Tarquin and co aren't really as high level as they think they are compared to the order. Plus they are outnumbered, and the orders HP total seems to have been going up, not down throughout this fight. Plus v has many spells one failed saving throw away from killing any of these guys, plus Durkon can dominate these guys with one failed will save. Haley can icy burst at any time with a lucky roll.
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Tarquin single-handedly messed up the entire OotS. And he's the fighter.
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inthesto posted:Tarquin single-handedly messed up the entire OotS. Single handedly if you count air support, and no wizard. And then later the same order messed up his entire party sans cleric. Miko single handedly messed up the entire order too, once.
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greatn posted:Single handedly if you count air support, and no wizard. And then later the same order messed up his entire party sans cleric. I do hope that Roy's the one to take Tarquin down, though. Aside from Tarquin's hubris, it'd be genuinely interesting to see two smart fighters engage in serious combat.
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Paul.Power posted:Also worth noting that Tarquin disoriented the hell out of the Order by pretending to be Thog and thus catching them off-guard when he actually fought with skill and tactics. Roy with bonuses from Elan's inspire greatness or heroics. Or possibly Elan countersonging the gently caress out of some visual or audio based psionic attacks, or fascinating and suggesting something to someone. Cause I guess this is kind of Elan's moment to shine if anyone's.
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Elan could win this fight because Tarquin's going to want him surviving. Just keep walking in the line of enemy fire, Elan, they have to pull their shots!
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nimby posted:Elan could win this fight because Tarquin's going to want him surviving. Just keep walking in the line of enemy fire, Elan, they have to pull their shots! Grab a board, tie Elan to it, use it as a shield!
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