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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Time to be clever, goons. Use that obelisk like the divine lighter it is. Actually, that's a neat idea. Ask the obelisk about sorcery again, then stick a twig into the inferno that spouts out the top when it gets all pissy.
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Zybourne Clock posted:Regardless of whether Enkidel manifests a fire or not, the outcome will be interesting. Failing to start a fire tells us that Jalitha left Baitel for mundane rather than supernatural reasons, and provides more insight into the divide between divine and arcane magic. Well...not necessarily. If we have divine blood but fail to start a fire, it COULD be because divinity doesn't fully manifest in magical powers until a certain, older age. Or it could be because we haven't undergone some particular ritual to kick off magic powers. Or it could be because we didn't do the trick right to begin with somehow. Or it could be because El chose to suppress our powers to punish our hubris, or somesuch. Or it could be because touching the obelisk actually SUPPRESSED our powers for a time. Or it could be that simply being on the manhood ritual suppressed those powers. Or it might be that Ishmael's fruit drinks suppressed our powers temporarily. If we fail to start a fire, the one and only thing we will know for absolute certain is that we failed to start a fire. Everything else is conjecture.
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Oct 11, 2013 00:29
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:
This is the best plan. We should try it next when the magic words fail because we aren't one of the blessed elite. 8. C I think Tudiya held a pair of sticks crossed when he did this? And this seems closest to that. 9. H 10. M 11. NO I hope it doesn't work because Deadly Ham Sandwich's plan working would be even better. 12. S
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Oct 11, 2013 00:29
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I'll follow SerSpook with voting. As for what I believe? We are either superhuman or just a regular human who coincidentally has a lot of experiences with otherworldly beings and get really lucky at finding legendary objects.
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Oct 11, 2013 00:45
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So kind of off-topic but not really, what's everyone's plan for the future of Enkidel? Not long run, just for the next few years, what we do. I'm thinking hanging out with Ishamal and his crew and making sure to spend time with mom. Maybe try to figure out what's going on with us and get Ishamal's opinion on learning magic.
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Oct 11, 2013 00:45
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If we go back, spend time with mom, learn the spear and spar with Danal, and hang out with Ishamal. If we choose to not go back, either go school of hard knocks and learn living by ourselves like Enkidu or join another civilization without becoming a slave.
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Oct 11, 2013 00:53
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Hell, if my plan works, let's just take the obelisk with us. Use it like a flamethrower. Question: How heavy is the obelisk? Does it seem portable? Would Tudiya be mad if we took it?
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Oct 11, 2013 00:53
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No real input on the actual votes as i'm undecided, but I will answer 13. 13: I believe it has the chance of working. I am a believer that the sons of Labaras horded power. Tudiya is part of this, though it's likely unwitting. Generation after generation it probably turned from "Don't tell the little guys!" to "The little guys can't even do this, don't humor them." I don't think it's set in stone the way the King believes it is. It certainly could work unless we're missing something. The monument is what really shoot up the situation for me. It's acceptance of us and the trade of blade was noteworthy. Hell, for all we know it didn't take -our- blood, but gave us some of Zepath's. Whom is a son of Labaras. So yes. I think it could certainly work.
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Oct 11, 2013 00:58
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Hell, if my plan works, let's just take the obelisk with us. Use it like a flamethrower. It is as pictured. It is a big block of what may be stone or maybe not because it is an odd material and probably very heavy.
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Oct 11, 2013 01:03
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Deadly Ham Sandwich posted:Hell, if my plan works, let's just take the obelisk with us. Use it like a flamethrower. If we do this, I insist we put our poem on it 
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Oct 11, 2013 01:19
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Voting we use our superior thinking-outside-the-box skills and Divine lighter. You don't need to be knowledgeable or magic when you're smart.
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Oct 11, 2013 01:34
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SerSpook posted:So kind of off-topic but not really, what's everyone's plan for the future of Enkidel? Not long run, just for the next few years, what we do. Besides those two, hang out with Paebel a bit. I seem to be the minority in that line of thinking, but he can one day be a traveling companion, is already indebited to us for the help with the horn, can keep us up on what's going on with Bareen's crew...just all around seems like someone whose friendship we should keep going. Oh, and besides that, if we do go find some pearls, give one of the bigger ones to Jalitha as a gift when we get back. Seems like a nice gift given that we've neglected her of late.
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Oct 11, 2013 01:57
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Theglavwen posted:Actually, that's a neat idea. Ask the obelisk about sorcery again, then stick a twig into the inferno that spouts out the top when it gets all pissy. Voting for this.
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Oct 11, 2013 01:57
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Also, while I agree using the obelisk for fire tonight is a great idea - what do we do the other 29 or so days after we leave? We still need to either figure out if we can magic some up, or if we can make it with some twigs the old fashioned way.
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Oct 11, 2013 02:00
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8. E 9. H 10. L 11. Q 12. V
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Oct 11, 2013 02:05
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Task Manager posted:Also, while I agree using the obelisk for fire tonight is a great idea - what do we do the other 29 or so days after we leave? We still need to either figure out if we can magic some up, or if we can make it with some twigs the old fashioned way. We can make fire-bundles and carry it with us if we're vigilant enough to keep it going.
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Oct 11, 2013 02:06
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Task Manager posted:Oh, and besides that, if we do go find some pearls, give one of the bigger ones to Jalitha as a gift when we get back. Seems like a nice gift given that we've neglected her of late. Azzazel should get one too for being a nice enough gent to keep Snarls alive in the desert. 
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Oct 11, 2013 02:11
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8.B Be niiice... be niiice wooood. There there... now c'mon fire-fire... you can dooo it.... c'mon... nicenice. 9.I Hoping more of a squint, but eyes closed to protect them; it's my choice to shield them or not. 10.J El is more ever present than I know. 11.Q I want it to work cause I'm cold! brr 12.ZB I want to believe... my faith in El is both because of what I do know for sure and what I cannot know for sure. That is why it is called faith. I sincerely accept faith in El, but there's nothing in me that should give El notice to me. El deserves better than me, but if I'm all he's got, I'll give it my all. I've been told I'm not adept to the ways of Zepath kings and such, but if the power comes from El, there is no limit to what El can do with it, not even my own limitations can hold him back. How dare I withhold El's power by my own actions. El provides, El takes away. I speak and act in faith and the result will be to the glory of El, not for my own worldly benefit. This is why I believe.
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Oct 11, 2013 02:13
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Task Manager posted:Also, while I agree using the obelisk for fire tonight is a great idea - what do we do the other 29 or so days after we leave? We still need to either figure out if we can magic some up, or if we can make it with some twigs the old fashioned way. We rip the obelisk out of the ground and use it as an awesome codpiece/weapon. 
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Oct 11, 2013 02:29
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8. E. 9. H 10. J 11. Q 12. V 13. I think 'magic' is something which can be learned. I don't necessarily agree with the teachings of the minority temple, but as others have noted, Ishamal has only 5 fingers on each hand. It's possible we're in the same category, given our level of interaction with the supernatural, and he's certainly do things beyond normal. Haven't seen him punch water out of rocks, though.
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Oct 11, 2013 02:51
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I wonder if it is possible to reset the thing so magic water comes out again? It seems automated, not controlled by an active intelligence, so how did it know we were there? How did we qualify for magic water? What made the water go away? Does it spew water for anyone thirsty that happens by, or only for men of Zepath on their manhood ritual, or what? Tudiya probably didn't do it, because we walked all day and night and never saw him jog past.
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Oct 11, 2013 03:10
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8. Grab two sticks and hold them like Tudiya. 9. Closed. 10. N 11. Pass? Not sure the point of this vote. 12. Y. But if this fails, use the Obelisk as a matchstick. Also "Hey Obelisk can we have more water"
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Oct 11, 2013 03:31
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Vavrek posted:8. E. We did see him punch the Asherah out of us, so he certainly has muscle wizard powers.
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Oct 11, 2013 03:32
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:8. Grab two sticks and hold them like Tudiya. The obelisk does not respond.
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Oct 11, 2013 03:34
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Ask the Obelisk about sorcery again, for science.
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Oct 11, 2013 03:39
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It does not respond.
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Oct 11, 2013 03:44
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8. C 9. I -- To help focus. 10. K -- Tudiya didn't. 11. P -- I as an element of Enkidel's mind thing magic powers would be pretty awesome, and proving Tudiya wrong would be an interesting achievement. 12. V 13. We've been told we have a knack for magic and we keep stumbling into the supernatural. Tudiya might have been lying or simply mistaken about us being unable to do it, or that might have changed since we shook hands with the obelisk. Of course, even if we CAN do this, we might not know all the details needed to make it work.
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Oct 11, 2013 04:01
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Ask the obelisk if it is ok to sacrifice human souls in sorcery if you are really desperate.
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Oct 11, 2013 04:30
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Ask Zepa if we can please have some more water. The obelisk says it is Zepa, maybe it wants us to use its name instead of calling it Obelisk all the time?
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Oct 11, 2013 04:32
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How about we ask the obelisk to tell us the laws of Zepa's line.
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Oct 11, 2013 04:37
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The obelisk is silent. The words which floated in light above it when you first arrived remained, but it does not say or do anything else in response to your question.
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Oct 11, 2013 04:40
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8. B. Hold my hand above the wood. 9.I. Closed. 10.L. Pffffft of course I don't. 11.P. I WANT it to work! I should likely have thought this out when I replied to question 13. But alas, i'm an idiot when I first wake up before my pain pills and coffee kick in.
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Oct 11, 2013 05:47
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SerSpook posted:So kind of off-topic but not really, what's everyone's plan for the future of Enkidel? Not long run, just for the next few years, what we do. I'd like for Enkidel to try to get to know Keza, and possibly convince Tudiya to offer her her freedom. Yeah, she's an angry old hag who treats us like dirt. I think I mentioned it before, but she's been a slave for a really long time, far beneath Tudiya's notice. Then along comes a cannibal boy out of the wilderness, a slave like her, except he's showered with praise and treated like the King's personal pet. Eventually the wildboy gets more and more privileges (a royal bedroom!?) while she merely gets older and more tired. Years go slowly by, and now the kid is closer to Tudiya than the King's own son! She hears from another slave that the King will one day give the boy to Danal, who has become both his brother and closest companion; he'd be almost better than free! And, to make matters worse, the bastard'll likely live to be officially freed at the Jubilation, whereas Keza will be long dead, having died miserable in servitude. I think we should be nicer to her.
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Oct 11, 2013 06:53
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Oblisk thinks it could out think us. "What about fish gods? Is it ok to sacrifice people to Ashearah?" Then use it as a lighter.
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Oct 11, 2013 08:48
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A Terrible Person posted:I'd like for Enkidel to try to get to know Keza, and possibly convince Tudiya to offer her her freedom. What if she's just a bitch? I mean, sure, she doesn't like us or our mom. I wouldn't know why she hates mom, but as for us, we're Danal's PIC. We cause mischief, eat like a small army, do pretty much whatever we want, and she has to put up with us and clean up after us. In that context, I'd probably hate us too. And even if Tudiya were to let her go, what's she going to do? She's old, what she does now is probably all she knows. Unless she has family somewhere that would have her, sticking with Tudiya is probably the best she's gonna be able to do for herself.
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8)B 9)H 10)J 11)P 12)W 13: I believe it will work because we are pledged to Zepa the same way Tudiya is, I'd assume it was a power granted by this pledge, the obelisk told us it hates sorcery so the source must be something else.
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Oct 11, 2013 09:25
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Diogines posted:It does not respond. Oh booooo.
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Oct 11, 2013 14:20
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A Terrible Person posted:I'd like for Enkidel to try to get to know Keza, and possibly convince Tudiya to offer her her freedom. Trick about this is that she's apparently been living with resentment, bitterness, regret and spite for a very long time, and that's a hard habit to break out of - she might even take any show of niceness to be some form of condescension or hidden ploy. I don't mind being nicer to her simply for the sake of being a compassionate human being, mind you, and really the whole point of compassion is that you should be nice to people without expecting any reward, but I don't know that we should expect a great deal of change in our relations with Keza even if we do try to be nicer to her.
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Oct 11, 2013 14:29
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If anyone can do a count of the "starting a fire" votes I will start the update after. I do not have access to a spreadsheet during the day, even if I can write, so counting the votes is tougher. Any volunteers? The "what is your general survival plan" vote is more complicated and will not be resolved till at least after the fire vote, so we do not need a full count on that yet.
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A Terrible Person posted:I'd like for Enkidel to try to get to know Keza, and possibly convince Tudiya to offer her her freedom. Spending time with our mother (Something we've been neglecting an awful lot) is more important than this.
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