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Uhh.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24563683 quote:Gloria de Piero, the shadow minister for women and equalities, has accused a news agency of trying to obtain topless pictures of taken when she was 15. quote:taken when she was 15.  Is a newspaper (allegedly) chasing after child pornography an OK Thing now? What do they think they're gonna do when they get hold of it?
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I was about to post the same thing. Surely illegal to possess those?
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Answers Me posted:Uhh.. Amanda Platel got away with it.
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Answers Me posted:Uhh.. Print a censored version? Leak it onto the internet (weren't us guv)? Seems more like general harassment to be honest. Something to hold over her. I was going to ask if she'd done anything to anger the tabloids, or if they just hate Women and Equalities ministers in general (stupid question) but a quick internet search turned up the fact she used to be a TV presenter, she was one of FHM's 'sexiest women' or whatever, and I got a youtube result called 'mega cleavage' so yeah, it might be another case of women existing to be leered at. Even if they're underage (hello Charlotte Church)
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thehustler posted:I was about to post the same thing. Surely illegal to possess those?
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Exaro News has managed to get another secret recording, this time of Tom Mockridge, an executive at News International, claiming a number of things, including the final cost to News Corp will be in the region of £1 billion. http://www.exaronews.com/articles/5117/news-international-faces-1bn-hit-reveals-2nd-secret-recording
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Brown Moses posted:Exaro News has managed to get another secret recording, this time of Tom Mockridge, an executive at News International, claiming a number of things, including the final cost to News Corp will be in the region of £1 billion. Relative to NI's annual profits, is that a big number?
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Darth Walrus posted:Relative to NI's annual profits, is that a big number? According to this article from 2011 quote:News International has announced a full-year operating income of £3.08bn. The figures show a 12 per cent increase driven by the success in television and cable networking programming with BSKYB and Fox News performing well for the company.
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JPMorgan's net income from 2012 was $20b and change, for comparison.
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Cross posting from the UK Thread. I've just put together a piece for Storyful looking at some of the products launched at Google Ideas' Conflict in the Connected World Summit, which I attended this week. My personal favourite was the Investigative Dashboard that allows anyone to search through databases of businesses, shareholders, directors, etc. It's a very useful tool for investigators that's also supported by the Visual Investigative Scenarios tool, which allows networks of relationships to be built and visualised. I wonder how that could be used in relation to phone hacking.....
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With the trials starting Monday, there's a number of articles out about Brooks and Murdoch The Sinkable Rebekah Brooks Phone-Hacking Trial Just One of Rupert Murdoch’s Worries Murdoch’s mission to save Rebekah Brooks Press gear up for Rebekah Brooks and Andy Coulson 'trial of the century' Reporting restrictions will be in place, so god knows what actual information will come out from the trials. I'll be getting my own private reports though.
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Brown Moses posted:With the trials starting Monday, there's a number of articles out about Brooks and Murdoch You can report open court proceedings though, right? Or will the fact that there's loads of related cases pending hinder reporting on this trial?
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Brown Moses posted:Reporting restrictions will be in place, so god knows what actual information will come out from the trials. I'll be getting my own private reports though. Can you post what you hear here, or is this a 'could be in contempt' type thing?
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StarkingBarfish posted:Can you post what you hear here, or is this a 'could be in contempt' type thing? It would be in contempt, but I get the feeling most stuff will be okay to report once the court session is over for the day. It should be quite explosive, by pleading not guilty it means all sorts of details will be brought up in court.
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What do people think of David Mitchell's defence of Paul Dacre and Rupert Murdoch? He seems to think a baby is being thrown out with the tabloid bathwater, and I'm uncertain whether this is a balanced argument.
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ewe2 posted:What do people think of David Mitchell's defence of Paul Dacre and Rupert Murdoch? He seems to think a baby is being thrown out with the tabloid bathwater, and I'm uncertain whether this is a balanced argument. It's your typical liberal bollocks and should be treated with the contempt it deserves. The idea that Dacre or Murdoch are part of some mythical 'free press', worthy of having their transgressions nullified by their good deeds, would be laughable if it wasn't for the untold suffering and misery they have both caused to millions of people around the world. Mitchell is a fantastic comedian, but on this issue he can get hosed.
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Pasco posted:It's your typical liberal bollocks and should be treated with the contempt it deserves. I really need an idiot's guide to what the royal charter entails, because I find it hard to believe that despite all the furore anything is going to change at all. Does this terrible herald of censorship and government oppression actually make it a crime to publish poo poo you made up wholesale? Because in my mind that's the main problem with the press in this country, they'll happily print any old bollocks they fancy and almost never get called on it.
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Am I the only person who gets this above the search results when I Google "murdoch brooks"?
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Brown Moses posted:Am I the only person who gets this above the search results when I Google "murdoch brooks"? I get it too. 
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Ah, I get it now, it's because the page is blocked in the UK and it fucks up it's appearance on Google search results.
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So the page being blocked in the UK... makes it show up first in search results? brilliant censorship there.
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Brown Moses posted:Ah, I get it now, it's because the page is blocked in the UK and it fucks up it's appearance on Google search results. Oh I see, well its clearly not blocked in Australia but it does show up as the first result anyway.
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Brown Moses posted:Ah, I get it now, it's because the page is blocked in the UK and it fucks up it's appearance on Google search results. Free press everyone. Yes I realise we that it's blocked for legal reasons
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Hacked Off has put together a post about the plans for regular coverage of the trials, and the Inforrm blog has an excellent post explaining who the defendents are, and what charges they face. I'll keep this thread up to date with the latest news reports, and no doubt my regular contributor will be posting more and more on my blog about the proceedings.
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Pilchenstein posted:I don't really see how it's liberal bollocks, the idea of a free press is a pretty important one. Just because the overwhelming majority of the industry is loving despicable and will continue to abuse their power for as long as they can draw breath, doesn't mean we should give up on the idea entirely. Steve Coogan wrote a response to David Mitchell's article. Full text here: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/oct/27/leveson-press-regulation-steve-coogan-david-mitchell
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With the trial set to take anywhere up to 6 months, what financial assistance do the jury members get? I can't imagine, say, a teacher, being very happy having to miss almost an entire school year to try this case (or any other). Do they still receive their salaries from their employers, or is it like SSP where they get a fixed amount which could be much less than their regular wage? The judge also said that selected jurors would require "powerful reasons" to be excluded, so does that mean you could find yourself in financial difficulty and have no recourse?
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It could also depend on the employer. I realize it's US vs UK, but I work for a corporation with UK employees as well. I was in the jury selection pool for a federal trial that could have taken a few weeks. I got $80ish per day from the feds & my regular pay from my employer for the 2 days I was there.
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Pilchenstein posted:I don't really see how it's liberal bollocks, the idea of a free press is a pretty important one. Just because the overwhelming majority of the industry is loving despicable and will continue to abuse their power for as long as they can draw breath, doesn't mean we should give up on the idea entirely. It is possible, if the political will is there, to create a press which is both 'free' of direct government control/intimidation and will simultaneously offer justice to people when it does wrong, neither of which are true at the moment. We are not dealing with the idea of a free press owned by the people of the country, we are dealing with profiteering multinational corporations controlled by finances, advertisers, government narratives, public complaints (somewhat), and similar things like that. A discussion of the press must be done with that in mind, and a discussion of press freedom with a focus on Dacre and Murdoch should be more about the injustices they commit then the ones they allegedly face.
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Allan Assiduity posted:While Coogan's column covered a lot of the bases (and do give it a read), it's a complete joke to think that Britain has a strictly free press as it is, and that the government repression will be put onto the shoulders of Dacre and Murdoch, rather than a paper like The Guardian, which has been subject to government intimidation in only the last few month for publishing the Snowden leaks. Yeah, I'm honestly amazed that the whole "raiding the Guardian's offices and bashing up their computers" thing hasn't gotten more coverage, because that was so obviously and flagrantly over the line that I was amazed at the balls of it. They even got away with it!
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highme posted:It could also depend on the employer. I realize it's US vs UK, but I work for a corporation with UK employees as well. I was in the jury selection pool for a federal trial that could have taken a few weeks. I got $80ish per day from the feds & my regular pay from my employer for the 2 days I was there. I did jury duty here in Aus about a month ago and I was getting 136AUD per day which included my transport costs and a 15AUD lunch allowance. For anyone with an employer they gave a cheque for the base rate to the employer then the employer paid the worker their full wage for the duration of the trial. As a subcontractor I was SOL and just got the 136 a day.
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Allan Assiduity posted:While Coogan's column covered a lot of the bases (and do give it a read), it's a complete joke to think that Britain has a strictly free press as it is, and that the government repression will be put onto the shoulders of Dacre and Murdoch, rather than a paper like The Guardian, which has been subject to government intimidation in only the last few month for publishing the Snowden leaks. Yeah, it's cynical of me, but I don't expect anything to come out of press regulation except maybe life being made more difficult for whistleblowers & satirists. With regard to the "corrections as prominent as the original story" thing mentioned in Coogan's bit, would that actually be enforced properly? Or could you get around it by running a front page that just says "SHOCKING REVELATIONS ABOUT CELEBRITY! see page 20" then printing all the libel there?
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Been dealing with a vomiting child, and there's not much going on, but here's some links The Drum Hackgate Blog Day 1 at the Press Reform blog Hacked Off has Martin Hickman watching the trials The fun should start tomorrow afternoon, assuming the jury selection goes to plan.
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Judge seemed to be very specific about Twitter and Google to the jury, even though it's rather obvious on "Don't put this into contempt, please". Though to be fair, a lot of the info isn't exactly favorable to the defendants so understandable the judge wants them away from it. Any specific rules regarding reposting tweets, reports etc, with the trial for the thread? It's probably going to go TV/IV very quick with the amount of info spilled on twitter in real time.
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Here's a live blog from Press Reform for today's events http://pressreform.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/phone-hacking-trial-day-2.html?spref=tw Should be the end of jury selection and the prosecution opening statement, which journalists have been allowed to live-Tweet.
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A jury of 9 women and 3 men has been sworn in. The judge has also warned the jury not to look at this week's Private Eye, and to avoid social media. The prosecution's opening statement will be read tomorrow at 2pm, and will be live tweeted. Brown Moses fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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