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1) G, share with Snarls. 2) Heal Snarls please. 3) Q - I prayed to make it out alive, and I made it out alive. Who cares what mechanic the prayer took to provide help?
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Azz. Are you El? What are the limits imposed on your Testing? Do you only Test the line of Zepa? What do you know of Vayahi Or. How do men do this?
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Oct 22, 2013 17:40
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1.A 2. And your response is... what? Thanks, but we're almost home. Any advice on setting doggy-legs? 3. J / L
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Oct 22, 2013 17:45
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You take a moment to examine Snarls leg. You are no doggy doctor, but it appears to be a bad sprain, not broken. Bed rest and tummy rubs should fix it. Hiking through the wilderness will not. Left to your own devices, you anticipate it will take you roughly three weeks to get home.FoxTerrier posted:Question for Az: FoxTerrier posted:How did you know we were in trouble? FoxTerrier posted:Snarls will get transported back with us, right? FoxTerrier posted:Did you see how we beat the poo poo out of that monster that killed your goat? Pretty cool, right? Nettle Soup posted:Yeah. Can you put us a few days out maybe? Vavrek posted:Ask Azz: "What does 'grigori' mean? Are you one?" HiHo ChiRho posted:What's the deal with Zepa's obelisk that we found? Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Azz. Are you El? What are the limits imposed on your Testing? Do you only Test the line of Zepa? Apparently that question was the very HEIGHT of hilarity! Lanky Coconut Tree posted:What do you know of Vayahi Or. How do men do this? Diogines fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 17:57
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Diogines posted:"In a more elevated manner of communication it might mean "Let There Be Light" but it is entirely... inadequate to try to communicate it with fleshy meat flaps." Could you do it with interpretive dance? Or by Myeeeeeeeh-ing like a goat? Anyways, is it actually magic or divine aid which makes the effects?
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Oct 22, 2013 18:10
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"Azzazel, what do you know about the coming storm?"
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Oct 22, 2013 18:11
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Questions for Az 1. What are the Melachim? 2. Do you know Xuriel? 3. Who is El? 4. How long ago did you meet Ishamal? 5. Why do few men of Zepath think well of you? 6. Who is Ashera? (Sorry if I'm overloading you with questions Diog!) FoxTerrier fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 18:16
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Azz. EL HA MELECH KOL HA OLAM! What does this mean? If I was given a divine command to "Prepare for Years of Hardship". What should I do? Who is Mereniel? Who is Xuriel?
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Oct 22, 2013 18:18
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FoxTerrier posted:EDIT: Just saw the entries above. Well, shoot. If it's a choice between transport and fixing Snarls, then take the help healing Snarls. Unless Azz wants to trade transport for delivering a message to Ish. Updated #2 accordingly. Gotta say, I sympathise with the love for Snarls, but it seems like a waste. Snarls will recover with a bit of rest, having Azz transport us back gets us both; we return, and it will ensure Snarls' recuperation. Question for Az: Why did that thing seem so intent on me. It seemed like it came right for me, barreling out of the depths, how did it know I was there, and why was it so interested? Surely there is easier prey in the ocean.
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Oct 22, 2013 18:30
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Transporting us back might not be completely within the rules of the Test.
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Oct 22, 2013 18:33
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"What was Ishamal like, back when he was Mereniel?"
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Oct 22, 2013 18:33
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Question: If you transport me to Zepath, will my offerings still be pleasing to El?
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Azzazel drinks, scoffs, grins and otherwise does not answer all of the following questions:quote:1. What are the Melachim? quote:4. How long ago did you meet Ishamal? quote:5. Why do few men of Zepath think well of you? quote:Azz. EL HA MELECH KOL HA OLAM! What does this mean? quote:If I was given a divine command to "Prepare for Years of Hardship". What should I do? quote:Could you do it with interpretive dance? Or by Myeeeeeeeh-ing like a goat? quote:Question for Az: Why did that thing seem so intent on me. It seemed like it came right for me, barreling out of the depths, how did it know I was there, and why was it so interested? Surely there is easier prey in the ocean. quote:"What was Ishamal like, back when he was Mereniel?" quote:Question: If you transport me to Zepath, will my offerings still be pleasing to El?
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Oct 22, 2013 18:47
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Question for Azzazel: Who is our father? I assume he won't answer though. Question for Diog: Is using Google (translate) for the Godspeak cheating?
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Oct 22, 2013 18:55
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Wow, no, we are not accepting transport back to the city. We're getting better at this surviving thing and we're sure as hell not half-assing the trip by accepting straight-up passage. Healing Snarls on the other hand is totally cool - it's not HIS trial, after all.
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Oct 22, 2013 18:57
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Azzazel is one of the most 'civilized' beings we have encountered. Our relationship to him is one of an amusing Creature and raconteur. We are not 'enthralled' because we managed to tell him amusing stories about Ishamal. If we did not know those stories or we told them really badly we might be in a very different relationship with him. He gets bored and is apparently not a Grigori because this is more entertaining, and whatever other reasons. This also means he is a trickster and can't be 'trusted' exactly, but that does not mean we cannot treat with him. Azzazel! (Pant, pant, pant). What a pleasure to see something with only two eyes! A Thank you so much. (Pant, pant, pant). Ha, ha! That was something of a run. We seem to have lost the club we made from that jackal that killed your goat. (Split drink with Snarls.). Inconvenient really. I bet we looked pretty heroic running for our lives naked through the forest! Managed to piss that thing right off though. It is so kind of you to say you feel we have done enough and who would know better? Thank you for your offer of transportation. We would be grateful if you could heal Snarls and then we will make our way back. It is kind of you to offer. (Pant, pant) One question. We lost our only real weapon, as we mentioned. We have managed to hold on to the horns from your goat and weren't quite sure what to do with them. We were thinking of using them to make a bow. Of course we really have no idea how to go about that or make arrows, but we were wondering would it be acceptable to you if we were to use them in this way? I hope we dont botch it and ruin the horns. That would be a real shame. We will probably want some sort of armament for the couple of weeks it will take us to get back, should we survive that, so just thought we would ask about those horns. (Pant) Q We did not receive direct aid because that is not how it works. There is a strong relationship between prayer, sacrifice and deed, but it is not direct instrumentality. It relies on our resolve and we have been told this directly by Tudiya and indirectly by Ishamal. The prayers and sacrifice are like a bank account or channel. Without our resolve no aid is possible. With our resolve things happen outside of or in addition to simple material cause and effect. Furthermore, it is not just our own prayers, but includes prayers of others for us. Thus if we make it back we must tell our Mother (should she still be alive) that her prayers helped us. We believe that prayer and rites create the possibility for aid, but do not guarantee it like some deal with a merchant. It is not neurotic requests for a divine entity to bail us out or fix some boo-boo and make it better. Divine entities do not exactly 'need' something from us. Manifestation of aid requires our resolve and perhaps even openness to receiving such aid. We do not believe we received aid. We know we did. The nature of it or even the exact means by which that happened remains unclear. Sogol fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 18:59
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Diogines posted:"The men of Zepath will not know." Yerp. Voting 1. Drink half, pass the other half to snarls. 2. No on the offer of transport for us. Heal snarls instead please. Infact, instead of just healing him, give him a boon of life as long as ours as well as healing him. 3. Prayer is prayer. El moves in mysterious ways (I think we've heard this in church). No change in our belief in El. Lanky Coconut Tree fucked around with this message at 19:09 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:Yerp. Voting Voting ditto. Heal Snarls, but boon him if possible. Azzazel's response to "Will my sacrifice still be pleading to El if you transport me back?" Diogines posted:"The men of Zepath will not know." Ok, so him transporting us will most likely ruin our offerings and make this whole trip nearly pointless. edit: Just clearing up my votes. 1. G. Split drink with Snarls. Half us, half Snarls. 2. Heal Snarls, please. 3. J. El may have been helping my luck in dodging those trees. Deadly Ham Sandwich fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 19:13
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Are we still naked. If so, please put our clothes on.
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Oct 22, 2013 19:16
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1. A 2. Accept We've gone through with our trial. We have our sacrifice. If I remember correctly, the trial only required (Tudiya's words here) that we accept no aid from Men of Zepath. As Azzazel is neither a man, or of Zepath, I think we can safely accept his offer and go home. We'll get help for Snarls there. 3. Q: Of course they mattered, we're alive aren't we? QUESTIONS FOR OURSELVES/DIOG: Could you remind us of the Rules & Regulations of the trial, as told to us by Tudiya earlier?
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Oct 22, 2013 19:20
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We've been over the required month already, and have been told not to go to the men of Zepath for aid. Azz definitely isn't a man from Zepath, and we've already done a hell of a lot more than your average person. I don't see this offer as significantly cheapening our accomplishments. On the other hand, it would spare our poor mother another 3 weeks of suffering. I think it might be worth taking the offer for that alone. She's been through enough, and we really need to start treating her better
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Oct 22, 2013 19:20
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If we accept the offer of transportation the Grigori will know. No men of Zepath, but 'Watchers' will know. This is even potentially the indirect means by which Kings know the minds of men. It would please Azz to play tricks on Grigori when he can get away with it.
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Right, I'll ask more questions as I think of them, but here's my voting for now: 1. D. I was originally going to vote for A because what the hell, it's a cup of goddamn juice and Azzazel doesn't really seem to be about stealing souls in secret. These recent responses about "testing" and "Nobody in Zepath will know" have put me back on my guard, though - seems we ought to preserve the sanctity of the test so far as we go. Snarls is probably fine, though! 2. "Thanks for the offer, but I kinda want to sightsee a little bit on the way home, y'know? Could be handy if I ever needed to come out this way again. That said, I'd appreciate it if you helped fix up poor Snarls here - don't reckon he'll have much fun playing tourist with a bum leg." The real reason, of course, is as above - gotta stay true to the test, but Snarls shouldn't have to suffer. 3. J. El works in subtle and mysterious ways. Nobody said El had to be a literal lightning bolt every time he manifests. That said, maybe he helped guide our feet while we ran. Or maybe he was just keeping an eye on us or preventing even worse stuff from happening. Who knows? Maybe he helped, is the thing, and we wouldn't want to be ungrateful if he did help. Speaking of which, we must remember to set up some particular special sacrifice later on top of our manhood offering to thank El for the help. On a side note, it occurs to me that to a degree we must be torturing Azzazel a wee bit - he loves to feast on the sorrow and grief of parting with a much-loved one, and the only thing we ever use his gifts for is to help Snarls and refuse to give Snarls to him. Just call us Tantalus! By the way, Diog, question for you: The italicized "Pain" and "Tired" and whatnot in the last few updates - what is that? Our body talking to ourselves? Snarls looking down? Something else?
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1: C 2: No, hell no, take nothing from this guy. According to him, the two best things in the world are goats and heartbreaking loss. I like 'im, but he's scummy by nature. He's also admitted that it's his job to test people on this trial. Don't be rude, we are still guests, but firmly decline, put yer drat clothes on, haul Snarls up in both arms and start ruckin' back to Zepath. 3: Q. EL does not intervene directly, we know this. He sends Melachim to help, doesn't he? And hey look, so happens we practically ran headlong into a six-fingered, winged being. Apparently he's kinda-sorta Fallen, but if he's acting as part of the manhood trial, then he's still an instrument of El's will, whether he likes it or not. UppaTree fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Oct 22, 2013 |
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Oct 22, 2013 19:52
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UppaTree posted:1: C Heroes are apparently more likely than Melechim or Ophanim. That is, it will be possible that when some one prays or asks for aid, El will send us (El help the poor soul that gets us as an answer to their prayers).
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Oct 22, 2013 19:59
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Is Enkidel really ready to go back to Zepath yet?
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OhYo posted:Is Enkidel really ready to go back to Zepath yet? The jackal skull was always a decent offering, and we still have that PLUS a few pearls AND we've been out late anyhow. Comparatively, staying near the sea means staying near Eyescream. gently caress that noise, we're coming home.
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Absum posted:Question for Azzazel: Who is our father? Absum posted:Question for Diog: Is using Google (translate) for the Godspeak cheating? quote:Are we still naked. If so, please put our clothes on. quote:Could you remind us of the Rules & Regulations of the trial, as told to us by Tudiya earlier? Last night was a full moon and you left on a full moon so it has been a month and a day. Returning on foot will take you about three weeks, maybe a month. .... and it looks like at this rate you are going back on foot because you are worried about... what exactly? Clearly not the agony your mother will endure thinking you may be dead already. You do not casually disregard that fact, you do not even think about it, after all, all that matters is your trial going well. quote:By the way, Diog, question for you: The italicized "Pain" and "Tired" and whatnot in the last few updates - what is that? Our body talking to ourselves? Snarls looking down? Something else? As you consider it... Tired. Home now? Snarls looks up at you with sad puppy dog eyes. Azzazel laughs. Once.
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Ah, Snarls learned to communicate with us telepathically. Yay!
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Oct 22, 2013 20:08
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"Azzazel, did you do something to my dog?"
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Lanky Coconut Tree posted:2. No on the offer of transport for us. Heal snarls instead please. Infact, instead of just healing him, give him a boon of life as long as ours as well as healing him.
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Oct 22, 2013 20:17
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I did joke in my post, "Heal my dog please, making him immortal and strong enough to pull a wagon would be awesome too, while you're at it." Minivote: Yeah, let's get dressed.
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Azzazel is a fallen angel, aka the thing devils are made of  Snarls isn't psychically talking to us. We're tired, lost our weapon and camp, and just got attacked by an Elder God. Azzazel is trying to trick us into failing our test when we're at our most vulnerable. Mt. Har is where El and the Melachim live, and also where the souls of the dead reside. Call it paradise, if you will, and Azzazel got kicked out of it. We don't want to owe this guy a favor, ever, and that includes asking him for transportation or asking him to heal our dog. (Dio said Snarls will probably heal on his own anyway). Ask Azzazel: "You quit, huh? So... What did the big guy fire you for?"
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Yeah, changing my vote to 1)C, decline politely. Nothing's ever free with this guy, he definitely wants something. Do let him heal Snarls though.
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Minivote. Get dressed? Has Azz noticed or otherwise seen our collected items? Pearls and stuff hidden in our bundle? He may have supernatural powers and know it all already, but I need to know if there's a chance he doesn't know, we hide them till we're out of his sight.
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Diogines posted:"I am the Tester here, Creature! I will not answer such a preposterous question! Besides! Isn't it far more fun if I give you just enough doubt to wonder?" This is definitely a test. Accepting a teleport will not turn out well for us.
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Ask Azzazel: "So you are the Tester, Azzazel? Do you test everyone who comes through your territory as directly as you have tested me? Has every member of the line of Zepa seen you?"
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Oct 22, 2013 20:36
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1. A 2. Let's go home, we're being a terrible son 3. L
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Minivote. Put clothes on. I assume we would do this in the next post anyways (unless Enkidel really likes feeling the breeze on his skin). Another option. We could ask Azz to teleport Snarls home. I don't want to do that, since I think we will need Snarls for our trek home.
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To Azzazel: What had three eyes, loves to eat goat and was crushed barehanded by a manimal? Then we show him the skull yelling THIS GUY! E: I think it is time to cover up the ol jackal and goats. get dressed.
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