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Bob Morales posted:We're using a iMail install from like 2006. Oh god gently caress iMail.
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I'm just glad we don't use Outlook anymore. In fact no one uses a local mail client anymore. Web interface all the way. No more dicking with PSTs. For more evidence of the owners cheapness, we have exactly 3 installations of Microsoft Office, and only because we have a small app that needs Access and Excel macros. All others use LibreOffice (set to save in MS Office formats of course) But in all honesty, it works perfectly fine. We don't go beyond basic word processing and simple spreadsheets which LibreOffice handles fine.
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Oct 23, 2013 16:33
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Fuckmothering Cryptlocker hit a bunch of clients for my org. That is the poo poo that is pissing me off today
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Oct 23, 2013 16:35
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We just picked up a new client because of cryptolocker (their old vendor had no backups and it hit their shared and home drives) 
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Oct 23, 2013 16:36
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Cryptolocker scares me. I know we have backups of everything + shadow copies enabled, but the cleanup would still be horrible. 99% of our data is in Excel files on a server - is there any way at all to protect them? ...or a way to notice that cryptolocker has started encrypting? Like placing a file in a catalog as a "canary" and have some service monitor it for modification or something?
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Oct 23, 2013 16:57
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dorkanoid posted:Cryptolocker scares me. I know we have backups of everything + shadow copies enabled, but the cleanup would still be horrible. All you can do is limit access.
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Oct 23, 2013 16:58
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Damnit Skype, you're now owned by the largest purveyor of software for business environments and you still can't implement a port range option to allow for an outbound traffic policy saner than "just leave everything above port 1024 wide open"?
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Oct 23, 2013 16:58
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stevewm posted:...we have exactly 3 installations of Microsoft Office, and only because we have a small app that needs Access and Excel macros. All others use LibreOffice (set to save in MS Office formats of course) But in all honesty, it works perfectly fine. We don't go beyond basic word processing and simple spreadsheets which LibreOffice handles fine. This is sensible. What's not sensible is buying 10 licenses of MS Office, installing it on 100 machines, and believing everything's "legit" because the VL MAK key activated. My previous employer is now being audited by the BSA because their new help desk guy did exactly that. There is no inventory of any sort, and there are a bunch of unnecessary servers all over the place that are similarly unlicensed. So glad I got out of there.
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Oct 23, 2013 16:59
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dorkanoid posted:Cryptolocker scares me. I know we have backups of everything + shadow copies enabled, but the cleanup would still be horrible. A software restriction policy on %AppData%*.exe apparently stops it.
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Oct 23, 2013 17:00
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EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:A software restriction policy on %AppData%*.exe apparently stops it. Not totally. It seems it doesn't work too well on Windows 7 machines. When we got hit I had that in place already and it got in through a Win7 machine.
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Trastion posted:Not totally. It seems it doesn't work too well on Windows 7 machines. When we got hit I had that in place already and it got in through a Win7 machine. %appdata%\*.exe for xp and %appdata%\roaming\*.exe or just %appdata%\*\*.exe for vista or newer or so i've been told.
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Oct 23, 2013 18:27
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I ran into a gcc compiler bug, in 2013.  I mean, sure it's a cross compiler gcc bug, but still.
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thebigcow posted:%appdata%\*.exe for xp and %appdata%\roaming\*.exe or just %appdata%\*\*.exe for vista or newer Would that also kill Chrome? Sickening posted:All you can do is limit access. Each user has access to 10+ GB of Excel files  That's why I thought of making some sort of "canary file" - a file that never should be touched in normal situations, and some kind of alert as to which user accessed it. Here I'm assuming that encrypting all 10-15-20-30 GB of Excel files takes a considerable amount of time, and this would give us time to turn off the infected computer and only have to do a partial restore.
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Oct 23, 2013 18:42
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dorkanoid posted:Would that also kill Chrome? If Chrome is a profile install, yes. Since it's running out of AppData as well.
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Oct 23, 2013 18:56
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ratbert90 posted:I ran into a gcc compiler bug, in 2013. I almost never believe anyone who says this. It's pretty much always something wrong with the code instead. Are you dead sure? If so, have you filed a bug report? Cause, like, they want to know about this sort of thing, and fix it. Cause, if so...
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Oct 23, 2013 18:59
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dorkanoid posted:Would that also kill Chrome? Does every user need access to every file? If yes, then your hosed. If no, then you can segment directories and make changes to access accordingly.
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Oct 23, 2013 19:08
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Sickening posted:Does every user need access to every file? If yes, then your hosed. If no, then you can segment directories and make changes to access accordingly. Probably not every file, but the overlap is significant enough that it's a problem.
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Oct 23, 2013 19:13
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SolTerrasa posted:I almost never believe anyone who says this. It's pretty much always something wrong with the code instead. Are you dead sure? If so, have you filed a bug report? Cause, like, they want to know about this sort of thing, and fix it. Cause, if so... So.... Bugs in GCC aren't actually that rare. What flags are you using? -std=c99 -pedantic?
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Oct 23, 2013 19:28
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CatsOnTheInternet posted:Both, to be honest. BYOD is terrible, and reading deployment anecdotes in said comments are equally terrible because you just know that it's a Director or CIO telling a smiling success story when it's actually a total clusterfuck. Teh ONLY way BYOD is any good is if support folks can say, "Sorry, you're allowed, but if you want help, here's a windows laptop with our image." If you call IT with any software problems on BYOD, they should hang up on you. As a huge nerd, i'd really love to be able to do BYOD beause I don't WANT any IT support.
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nitrogen posted:Teh ONLY way BYOD is any good is if support folks can say, "Sorry, you're allowed, but if you want help, here's a windows laptop with our image." If you call IT with any software problems on BYOD, they should hang up on you. I agree with that part, but the 'brick wall' in play is how BYOD often entails giving users an allowance or reimbursement for the device they want to use for work. So really, you're sanctioning the introduction of these devices to the environment while limiting the scope of support. As a result, you've got IT stonewalling users and citing policy as soon as they discover a problem is client-side, even though the company kinda sorta paid for the device. There is no amount of written policy in the world that will keep IT from caving and supporting those consumer-grade devices eventually. Here's what really baffles, me though: I don't understand the logic behind handing a personal device setup sheet to Joe Sixpack and sending him off to buy a poo poo Compaq at Best Buy. Why am I doing that, when I can buy a pallet of Probooks at predictable bulk pricing with predictable useful life, and stage them all with a known-good config with a few mouseclicks? Where is the cost-savings with BYOD? Where is the labor savings? CatsOnTheInternet fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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BYOD is fine for phones but holy poo poo I would never work anywhere it applied to laptops and poo poo. Of course, I work for an MSP so I guess I kind of already do... CatsOnTheInternet posted:Here's what really baffles, me though: I don't understand the logic behind handing a personal device setup sheet to Joe Sixpack and sending him off to buy a poo poo Compaq at Best Buy. Why am I doing that, when I can buy a pallet of Probooks at predictable bulk pricing with predictable useful life, and stage them all with a known-good config with a few mouseclicks? Where is the cost-savings with BYOD? Where is the labor savings? A pallet of Probooks shows up on an invoice for somebody. IT's salaries don't. Seriously, if you can boil a decision down to "Will one way create an invoice while the other side won't?" you instantly know why it was made that way. Inspector_666 fucked around with this message at 21:58 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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I'd be tempted to do BYOD by just making a VMWare player appliance with the standard corporate desktop image on it.
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Cross posting the poo poo out of this: BOTTLE OPENER ORDER FORMWe can't split orders between sizes, and everyone OVERWHELMINGLY chose 32g, so we're going with that. Price would be $23.45 plus shipping if we got at least 25, to $18.45 plus shipping if we got over 100. Timeline: Close out form for orders Nov 1st Collect payments by Nov 7 Create final order and submit by Nov 11 If all goes well, you should get it in the mail in the first two weeks of December (Domestic). I will work with international recipients. PM with questions. BTW: We can only pick one design, so this is a vote. Winning one will be ordered. Paladine_PSoT fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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Lum posted:I'd be tempted to do BYOD by just making a VMWare player appliance with the standard corporate desktop image on it. That's certainly an interesting approach. XenClient is as close as it comes to total client-side virtualization (imho) as it's basically a type 1 hypervisor that pulls a 'desktop VM' for the client device from a central store, caches it, and runs it locally as the user's OS. Still, neither it nor VM Player hugs the bare metal close enough. First time an end-user wants to use Sketchup or play a 720p video in their VM, kaboom. (Unless you picked one of like, 12 laptop models that support GPU offload.) CatsOnTheInternet fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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CatsOnTheInternet posted:I agree with that part, but the 'brick wall' in play is how BYOD often entails giving users an allowance or reimbursement for the device they want to use for work. So really, you're sanctioning the introduction of these devices to the environment while limiting the scope of support. As a result, you've got IT stonewalling users and citing policy as soon as they discover a problem is client-side, even though the company kinda sorta paid for the device. There is no amount of written policy in the world that will keep IT from caving and supporting those consumer-grade devices eventually. I like to rant about this a lot, because I work at a University and BYOD in some capacity is huge (because students are already bringing their own devices). And then I get all philosophical. When IT manages a computer, I believe there is an implicit social contract that says IT is taking care of updates and installing the software you need and generally managing the machine, in exchange for the user not being able to manage the machine. There's a tradeoff. We take away some power from the user on their machine in order to manage that machine for them. It's a two way street, and there be dragons if you go too far down in one direction. On one end you have the BOFH that won't actually mange the machines or install software, which prevents the person from doing their work, which is the whole reason they have that computer in the first place. But on the other end, it becomes cost prohibitive to give the same level of service to a machine when you don't know what's been done to that machine. The social contract has been broken.
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CatsOnTheInternet posted:That's certainly an interesting approach. XenClient is as close as it comes to total client-side virtualization (imho) as it's basically a type 1 hypervisor that pulls a 'desktop VM' for the client device from a central store, caches it, and runs it locally as the user's OS. Well I kind of figured you'd make them do non work poo poo outside of the VM under whatever OS the machine comes with. Probably be easier to force them to use Citrix, thinking about it.
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evol262 posted:So.... Bugs in GCC aren't actually that rare. What flags are you using? -std=c99 -pedantic? I'm in IT by way of college IT. Another thing I do while I'm here is teach a class full of students how to program worth a poo poo, a class we call "software craftsmanship". CS 201: How To Not Show Up In This Thread, basically. Students really really really love blaming errors on things that aren't their lovely code. So I'm in an environment where they are about that rare and mistakenly applied the belief I had about compiler bugs in that context to compiler bugs in general. Thanks for the correction. Glad there's one more documented to be fixed, I guess.
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EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:A software restriction policy on %AppData%*.exe apparently stops it. Wasn't there the suggestion that you could block the IPs of the remote encryption key generators, so it couldn't get a key to encrypyt with? Did that go anywhere?
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dorkanoid posted:Cryptolocker scares me. I know we have backups of everything + shadow copies enabled, but the cleanup would still be horrible. I think this was posted in the ticket thread about the time that Cryptolocker first showed up.  But good backups and enable volume shadow copies on the share are important as well so if it does happen you can recover quickly.
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SolTerrasa posted:I almost never believe anyone who says this. It's pretty much always something wrong with the code instead. Are you dead sure? If so, have you filed a bug report? Cause, like, they want to know about this sort of thing, and fix it. Cause, if so... I was compiling the KERNEL.
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dorkanoid posted:Would that also kill Chrome? I have one guy that runs a local install of Chrome and it seems unaffected. I'd have to look at what I set up again.
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The S of SMB really ticks me sometimes... Yay people who have been up +20hours
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:The S of SMB really ticks me sometimes...
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anthonypants posted:Server? Poor planning for an environment when I completely advised the customer and project engineer against doing a design that would end in disaster. GUESS WHAT HAPPENED???  many SMB's don't believe in a thing called RIO, RPO's, TCO, or Business contentuity until after it is too late!I think I will call out tomorrow I will call out tomorrow because like <12 hours of sleep in the past 2 days, and I think it is starting to Catch Up. But All Good Because I Mean A Jason Langone VCDX tomrrow! Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 06:25 on Oct 24, 2013 |
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They are pushing BYOD phones at work really hard, if we use our own phone, then we save a whopping 30 bucks a month on our phone bill. I'm holding on to my BB Curve right now as I like have a separate phone from my personal one, as I can turn off the work phone if I'm on vacation. I'm not sure what they'll do when this thing finally dies, maybe they just won't give me another phone.
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CatsOnTheInternet posted:That's certainly an interesting approach. XenClient is as close as it comes to total client-side virtualization (imho) as it's basically a type 1 hypervisor that pulls a 'desktop VM' for the client device from a central store, caches it, and runs it locally as the user's OS. Why not give them a BLAST URL and be done with it? Horizion 5.2/5.3 really made this loving good so long as you look at your GPO's and understand network traffic flow. Hell I believe Win7 is now MMR capable. I fully support BYOD after View 5.2 BLAST u1. Got an HTML5 browser? Go for it! Want a VIOP gate way? "Make sure you system is compatible at your desk with RJ45 or 802.11/n/ however to answer your phone you need to be at your desk" Not to mention View 5.2 supports Nvidia GPU's and 5.3 supports AMD/Intel/Nvidia Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Oct 24, 2013 |
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Pissing me off: conference for devs kicking off at 8:15
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Dilbert As gently caress posted:Poor planning for an environment when I completely advised the customer and project engineer against doing a design that would end in disaster. GUESS WHAT HAPPENED??? 
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CitizenKain posted:I'm not sure what they'll do when this thing finally dies, maybe they just won't give me another phone. I guess you just won't have a work-phone then. Lum posted:Well I kind of figured you'd make them do non work poo poo outside of the VM under whatever OS the machine comes with. VDI is seriously the answer to BYOB. Just remember to set up a connection-tester on your website for when people call in and complain that "it doesn't work". Get them to run the connection tester, and if that shows a green light it's a problem on their end. We support personal devices on three conditions. 1) If we have the time. Drop off your device, and if we have the time we'll take a look at it. If we don't you're boned. 2) We don't guarantee that we will or can fix it! We might take a look at it and go "Looks like the display-cable, or maybe the display itself. That's all I can say with the time I have." 3) You'll pay us with cake, or we'll never ever have the time to take a look at any of your crap again. Cake or GTFO! Home made cookies, 10-cent donuts from 7-11, whatever you picked up from the bakery on the way to work. We don't care, just feed us appropriately to the issue (little thing, small cake, large thing, big cake)
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luminalflux posted:Pissing me off: conference for devs kicking off at 8:15 Hmm, clearly a conference staffed by people who have never been developers in their lives. Which means it's probably all cargo cultists and people who read an article about <thing> one time.
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