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These day of release review embargoes are absolutely ridiculous. Games journalism once again proves it's a cesspit of brown-nosing.
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Oct 23, 2013 21:13
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Mr. Flunchy posted:These day of release review embargoes are absolutely ridiculous. Games journalism once again proves it's a cesspit of brown-nosing. Movies reviews often have embargos as well. So do books for that matter. The game isn't going anywhere. If you're unsure about it then don't preorder it and wait for the reviews. You'll be able to buy it instantly on Steam or buy it from the store for the same price. Most first-runs will probably continue to include the Deathstroke DLC (as all "this preorder bonus is everywhere" things do) so you won't even miss out on that. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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Oct 23, 2013 21:31
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ImpAtom posted:Movies reviews often have embargos as well. So do books for that matter. Yeah, but day of release embargoes in other entertainment industries are usually a big flashing warning sign to expect extreme shittiness.
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Oct 23, 2013 21:33
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Oh man that trailer has me pumped up - I know I'm just getting what is essentially an Arkham City reskin and that I should probably be pissed off, but I loved Arkham City, so... welp! v v
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Oct 23, 2013 21:46
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Mr. Flunchy posted:Yeah, but day of release embargoes in other entertainment industries are usually a big flashing warning sign to expect extreme shittiness. Not really, no. It used to be that way but it's kind of changed. The big switchover was the rise of the internet reviewing culture. Prior to the internet embargos were less important because you had a solid coherent idea of when a review was going to go out and who it was going to reach. Now you've got a hundred and fifty blogs all rushing to be the first to post a review of any given product and embargos are kind of necessary to prevent a bunch of lovely places from pushing out a review ASAP in order to generate hits by being the first. (And even then you get plenty of 'accidental' first reviews which inevitably get linked all over the place.) It isn't universal. There are obviously bad companies that try to cover bad products by hiding reviews. There are also companies that like to save the barrage of good reviews until just before the product comes out because a massive influx of positive press can have a seriously good impact on sales. (GTAV's embargo was the day before it came out from what I recall and there are tons of big blockbusters which tend to get reviews dropped 1-2 days before the movie comes out.) As I said, just don't preorder if you're unsure about the game. You won't lose anything (aside from some crappy preorder items) and if it turns out to be good you can just buy it from a store or off Steam. Preordering is basically a bad idea unless you're buying some super-niche title that you absolutely have to have a physical version of. ImpAtom fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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Oct 23, 2013 21:51
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Jerusalem posted:Oh man that trailer has me pumped up - I know I'm just getting what is essentially an Arkham City reskin and that I should probably be pissed off, but I loved Arkham City, so... welp! v As long as it's not "Here's Arkham City, just told differently with different people" and it's just "here's Arkham City but the story is different", I'd be ok with it. I'd expect it to do more than Spider-Man 3, for example, which wasn't even a step forward. Also, doesn't Rocksteady basically welcome this game as canon in the Batman Arkham line?
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Oct 23, 2013 21:58
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The Animated Series episode Mad Love did a great job showing Harley's descent and how painfully possible it is for her to shape up if she really tried. Injustice had Alternate Earth Harley meeting another Joker and realizing how terrible he is.
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Oct 23, 2013 21:59
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ThermoPhysical posted:Also, doesn't Rocksteady basically welcome this game as canon in the Batman Arkham line?
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Oct 23, 2013 22:04
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redbackground posted:What the hell are they going to say? "Guys, this one sucks! We shouldn't have trusted them!"  More likely just make another Origins-style game...which I think the current rumor is that.
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Oct 23, 2013 22:17
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Personally, I'd like it if there were three Batman games made by WB Montreal and three by Rocksteady. Of course, that would lead to the inevitable debate about which three games are better.
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Oct 23, 2013 22:20
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Action Tortoise posted:The Animated Series episode Mad Love did a great job showing Harley's descent and how painfully possible it is for her to shape up if she really tried. Injustice had Alternate Earth Harley meeting another Joker and realizing how terrible he is. Injustice is odd since it's been used to tell some really interesting stories.
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Oct 23, 2013 22:27
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Action Tortoise posted:The Animated Series episode Mad Love did a great job showing Harley's descent and how painfully possible it is for her to shape up if she really tried. Injustice had Alternate Earth Harley meeting another Joker and realizing how terrible he is. Unfortunately this was after she was already established as her own character who became self-dependent and she re-fell in love with him after he beat her up. Injustice's story fittingly enough does no justice to Harley and she just acts Joker's girl until he attempts to kill her for the umpteenth time and she's finally like "Wow, what an rear end in a top hat."
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Oct 23, 2013 22:32
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Unfortunately this was after she was already established as her own character who became self-dependent and she re-fell in love with him after he beat her up. Injustice's story fittingly enough does no justice to Harley and she just acts Joker's girl until he attempts to kill her for the umpteenth time and she's finally like "Wow, what an rear end in a top hat." Yeah, for all of the trailer hype about how independent Harley was, she was blindly subordinate to him even though she was trying to become a hero and go straight.
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Oct 23, 2013 22:36
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Azubah posted:Injustice is odd since it's been used to tell some really interesting stories. I still haven't gotten to play Injustice. Gonna get the PS4 version for sure.
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Oct 23, 2013 22:50
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BreakAtmo posted:I still haven't gotten to play Injustice. Gonna get the PS4 version for sure. I think he's talking about the tie-in comic, which after the first few awkward issues did some really neat stuff.
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Oct 23, 2013 22:58
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Veotax posted:I think he's talking about the tie-in comic, which after the first few awkward issues did some really neat stuff. Ohhhh, yes, I heard about that. Still gonna get the game though - it's the only fighting game available for the PS4 launch. Injustice VS. Killer Instinct.
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Oct 23, 2013 23:15
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Did they push the date up? It says its gonna unlock on the 24th now.
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Oct 23, 2013 23:18
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coRRale posted:Did they push the date up? It says its gonna unlock on the 24th now. Must have. Niiiiiice.
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Oct 23, 2013 23:38
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Oh God drat it. Now it's really seeming like I shouldn't have pre-ordered it at Gamestop if everything but Gamestop is releasing it early.
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Oct 23, 2013 23:42
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Beeez posted:Oh God drat it. Now it's really seeming like I shouldn't have pre-ordered it at Gamestop if everything but Gamestop is releasing it early. Amazon isn't last I checked.  Actually, it looks like the PC version is out today on Amazon and tomorrow on Steam: http://www.amazon.com/Batman-Arkham...+arkham+origins ThermoPhysical fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Oct 23, 2013 |
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Oct 23, 2013 23:42
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Nooo, I've got it all pre-loaded but I won't be able to play it for at least a couple of days. gently caress!
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Oct 24, 2013 00:02
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PC version is Steamworks right? Wouldn't the Steam unlock time override Amazons "available now" for the digital download?
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Oct 24, 2013 00:11
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willjbish posted:PC version is Steamworks right? Wouldn't the Steam unlock time override Amazons "available now" for the digital download? Yes, it may accept the retail code but you will still have to wait until the release day to play it. And yeah it's steamworks, just need to look at the last line of product description. They're probably giving them out now so it can be preloaded.
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Oct 24, 2013 00:15
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Bloody Zavvi sent my copy out yesterday, was hoping it would arrive today but after getting home from work it wasn't there. Should arrive tomorrow though. Someone at work said reviews were out already but that can't be true if embargoes are still up I guess.
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Oct 24, 2013 00:18
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'This game will unlock in approximately 23 hours' aaaa
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Oct 24, 2013 00:28
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If I don't pre-order, is the game still worth getting new? IE is there a catwoman-style free DLC I'd be missing out on if I waited to buy it used?
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Oct 24, 2013 00:29
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Does getting a free download code for this game with my graphics card count as a preorder? Apparently I can't redeem it on the Nvidia site until the game actually launches, but from what I can tell it's just going to open it up for download on Steam once I do anyway. Missing out on a Deathstroke costume isn't going to make me skip the game out of spite, but it would be a nice bonus.
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Oct 24, 2013 00:36
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ThermoPhysical posted:Amazon isn't last I checked. Okay so you can buy and download and play this game RIGHT NOW from Amazon; true or false?
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Oct 24, 2013 00:42
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Dr. Video Games 0029 posted:Okay so you can buy and download and play this game RIGHT NOW from Amazon; true or false? No, they would just send you a Steam code which you would input, and get to play when it comes out on Steam. Amazon doesn't have an actual different version that arrives earlier.
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Oct 24, 2013 00:49
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Mr. Flunchy posted:These day of release review embargoes are absolutely ridiculous. Games journalism once again proves it's a cesspit of brown-nosing. Uh, a release day embargo pretty much shows the opposite of that.
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Oct 24, 2013 00:55
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GTA V had an embargo for the day before the game was released and it got amazing reviews.
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Oct 24, 2013 01:04
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Uh question, if I got a steam key from someone else for this does that mean I get the pre-purchase DLC stuff or do I have to buy it directly from Steam to get it?
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Oct 24, 2013 01:20
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Sex_Ferguson posted:Uh question, if I got a steam key from someone else for this does that mean I get the pre-purchase DLC stuff or do I have to buy it directly from Steam to get it? Depends on who you bought it from. Most retail outlets have the preorder stuff. If you're redeeming an Nvidia code, probably not. I went the Nvidia code on Ebay route, I'll pick up Deathstroke in a Steam sale if the Nvidia code doesn't unlock him.
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Oct 24, 2013 01:28
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Does getting a free download code for this game with my graphics card count as a preorder? Apparently I can't redeem it on the Nvidia site until the game actually launches, but from what I can tell it's just going to open it up for download on Steam once I do anyway. Missing out on a Deathstroke costume isn't going to make me skip the game out of spite, but it would be a nice bonus. Buh? I redeemed my nvidia code months ago.
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Oct 24, 2013 01:43
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Aphrodite posted:Uh, a release day embargo pretty much shows the opposite of that. AC was release day embargo'd. A few people on reddit have gotten it early and have posted impressions (may be lying, it is reddit after all.). Seems to be like a 7 to 9 ish rating. Most people say the story is actually a highlight this time round though, which is nice.
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Oct 24, 2013 01:52
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Mr.Citrus posted:Most people say the story is actually a highlight this time round though, which is nice. Best news I've heard all day. Did they say anything about the random crimes across the city? How do those play out exactly (no spoilers if possible)?
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Oct 24, 2013 02:05
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Mr.Citrus posted:AC was release day embargo'd. A few people on reddit have gotten it early and have posted impressions (may be lying, it is reddit after all.). Seems to be like a 7 to 9 ish rating. Most people say the story is actually a highlight this time round though, which is nice. I've been keeping an eye on leaks and so far most of the complaints appear to be in the area of "it's more of the same" and not "holy poo poo how did they gently caress up this bad." If you're expecting a big improvement you'll probably be disappointed but it doesn't sound like this is an Assassin's Creed 3 or anything. Of course we could have a surprise coming but if so it's not something popping up clearly anywhere.
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Oct 24, 2013 02:07
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I can't loving wait to fight Lady Shiva.
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Oct 24, 2013 02:08
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My Origins preload just downloaded an inexplicable number of bytes, but download them it did. The world may never know.
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Oct 24, 2013 02:21
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Been watching the first levels on YouTube, and it looks Perry dam solid. Not sure how I feel about major cutescenes being obvious cgi though. That happened in city but it just used game assets and largely normal looking lighting. This looks really different.
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Oct 24, 2013 02:32
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