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gman14msu posted:I dont lose anything in display quality by upgrading to touch, correct? Im willing to pay $80 more to try it, but not if I lose any quality. You'll have slightly less battery life with the touch screen.
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Trump posted:That's where it gets too complicated. Your requirements are pretty much any 15" laptop for around $600 with Windows or Ubuntu. Take a look at the ones in the OP or the ones people discuss around here often. Thinkpad is a good sturdy brand and it has a good keyboard which will help your dad with typing.
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Bob Morales posted:You'll have slightly less battery life with the touch screen.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:But does it really add a pound, and why? A question answered by a Lenovo rep on the site said the weight for the touch screen and 72 Whr battery is about 4 lbs. The laptop is listed as starting at 3.6 lbs, so I'm guessing those two features are .4 lbs. I'm pretty sure I'm in on the 6-cell battery, even with the bump on the end. I figure getting a 3-cell one later if I want a slimmer profile won't be that expensive. Is that wrong? Edit: I'm also still deciding between the i5-4200 and i5-4300. gman14msu fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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Looks like all three T440's (T440, T440p, T440s) are now on the B&N site as well, with a discount of 15% or so off the sticker price. Estimated ship dates are Nov 19th or thereabouts. Lesson learned: Don't assume something's coming out "soon"; things can apparently be announced in July to be released in November. I'm just glad I soon won't be using my N7 as a stand-in for my busted laptop anymore.
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So the pricing on the t440 basically tells me to buy my own RAM and SSD, and even then it's going to come perilously close to a macbook pro that has a better screen and onboard graphics. ugh decisions
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I've got a few more questions about the T440s before I drop ~$1275 on one. The summary page shows "Up to 6 hours' battery life with 3-cell battery." Is that including the front battery or will be be closer to 12 hours when you have 3+3? The "Tech Specs" part says this:quote:Up to 9 hours on Windows 8 Idle
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I *think* the 6-cell adds a lump on the bottom surface, so even worse than coming out the back aaaand the store's down
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P.N.T.M. posted:You can get the T440p with a desktop grade i7 The i7-4900MQ isn't quiiiite desktop grade, but it's still a 47W TDP processor in a 14" laptop.
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Ordered T440s with minimum ram/cpu/disk, adding FHD display and Intel AC wireless. 
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You guys spending $1,000+ on laptops without even reading reviews are nuts.
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Progressive JPEG posted:Ordered T440s with minimum ram/cpu/disk, adding FHD display and Intel AC wireless.
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Progressive JPEG posted:Ordered T440s with minimum ram/cpu/disk, adding FHD display and Intel AC wireless. I'm about to do the same but with upgraded battery and the touchscreen. I think the battery adds .3 lbs or les and the screen adds .1. I'm OK with that extra weight.
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Rikki Tikki Tavi posted:How much of a user difference is there going to be between an i5 4200U with HD 4400 and an i7 4558U with Iris 5100? I'm trying to decide between the two, this will be my main computer and will be pushing a 1440p screen. Not much in the way of real games though, like nothing more demanding than say Civ5. The i7 should close to the performance of desktop i3, but you'll probably be limited in what you can do with an Iris 5100. It won't deliver much a performance boost in comparison to a HD 4600 iGPU. If you game at lower resolution (1080p or 900p), a Iris 5100 should be fine. Gwaihir posted:The i7-4900MQ isn't quiiiite desktop grade, but it's still a 47W TDP processor in a 14" laptop. AnandTech found the i7 4900MQ comparable to the Ivy Bridge i7, and a i7 3770K is desktop grade to me.
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I found a video of the hotswap that shows the 3 and 6-cell batteries. Looks like it adds quite a bit of height. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gW6ahx0WXo I've also read some reviews that put the battery life well below the 12 hours claimed. http://forum.notebookreview.com/lenovo/732797-thinkpad-t440s-review.html quote:I didn΄t really test the battery life until now. Last night, it had 80 % when I went to bed (I left it on with Idle settings, WLAN off, display on the lowest brightness etc.). I sleept ~ 7.5hrs, and after I woke up it said "7 % battery". In my WLAN test (75 % brightness), it lasted 5 hrs.
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Mu Zeta posted:You guys spending $1,000+ on laptops without even reading reviews are nuts. Decent return policy, I think?
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:I found a video of the hotswap that shows the 3 and 6-cell batteries. Looks like it adds quite a bit of height. The notebookreview poster was only using the 3 cell battery with a 47 whr capacity. The full battery is something like ~95.2 whr going by the specs on Lenovo's site configuration tool. (The T440/P has an option for 99.9 whr battery). So, with the upgraded battery you should have double the life he did. Gwaihir fucked around with this message at 20:28 on Oct 29, 2013 |
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Gwaihir posted:The notebookreview poster was only using the 3 cell battery with a 47 whr capacity. The full battery is something like ~95.2 whr going by the specs on Lenovo's site configuration tool.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:That's pretty much what I was planning on getting, plus the OS upgrade. Did you up the battery? I want it to be thin/light but I also want more than 6 hours of runtime. Mu Zeta posted:You guys spending $1,000+ on laptops without even reading reviews are nuts.
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Doctor rear end in a top hat posted:You say "only using the 3-cell battery" but there's an internal 3-cell and an external 3-cell, each 23.2Whr. I guess this answers my question, though. I'll need the big chunk battery if I want to do stuff for more than 6 hours. Yea, I meant the 3 cell internal + 3 cell normal external adding up to the 47 whr total. The extended battery being essentially a keyboard stand instead of sticking out of the back of the machine makes it a lot more palatable, in my opinion.
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About to pull the trigger on a T440p. i7-4700MQ, GT730M, FHD screen, AC wireless $1312 through B&N. Mostly for programming and school/campus use, some video editing. Am I making a terrible mistake? It doesn't seem that much thicker/heavier than the T440s and I like the full volt processors.
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Note that the T440p is probably 4.7 lbs. It says 4.7 lbs under "Tech Specs" and says 4.1 lbs on the side bar, which is probably a transcription error. It also says 4.7 lbs in PDF files and other locations.
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shrughes posted:Note that the T440p is probably 4.7 lbs. It says 4.7 lbs under "Tech Specs" and says 4.1 lbs on the side bar, which is probably a transcription error. It also says 4.7 lbs in PDF files and other locations. That still doesn't seem that bulky, though I guess I won't know until I get it in my hands. My only concern is the cooling, with a i7MQ and discrete graphics, it might be a little hot.
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mmm11105 posted:About to pull the trigger on a T440p. i7-4700MQ, GT730M, FHD screen, AC wireless $1312 through B&N. Mostly for programming and school/campus use, some video editing. Am I making a terrible mistake? It doesn't seem that much thicker/heavier than the T440s and I like the full volt processors. That is a recipe for more than just a "little video editing." You are going to love it, but in my opinion it will take a lot more than light editing to get your money's worth. If you work that build, you could squeeze a Senior Thesis out of it without much trouble. That processor is outrageous 
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gman14msu posted:A few other questions before ordering: I pretty much have the same questions and would love thoughts...
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P.N.T.M. posted:That is a recipe for more than just a "little video editing." Yeah but I wanted the 730M anyways, so the crazy processor was only $100 more. Since I want to try to ~4 years, I figured it would be good future proofing.
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Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:I pretty much have the same questions and would love thoughts... The 4200U's clocks are 1.6GHz base, 2.6GHz/2.3GHz turbo (2 and 1 cores respectively) The 4300U is 1.9 base, 2.9/2.6GHz The i7-4500U is 1.8 base, 3.0/2.7 and it has a slightly larger cache. Essentially the 4300U is the i7-4500U but with ever so slightly slower turbo and less cache. If a ~10-15% faster processor is worth $100 to use then you should buy it.
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I just went ahead and ordered it, so I guess I get to be SA's guinea pig on the T440p.
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Barring a disaster or some drastic price cuts somewhere else, I'll be ordering a T440s with this configuration on Friday: Intel Core i5-4300U Processor on Mother Board Windows 8 Pro 64 Windows 8 Pro 64 English T440s 14.0 HD+ WWAN Intel HD Graphics 4400 4 GB DDR3L - SDRAM 1600MHz Base Keyboard Backlit - US English Fingerprint Reader, dock 720p HD Camera 500GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm 16GB M.2 Solid State Drive Single 3rd M.2 SSD slot ThinkPad Battery 3 cell Li-Polymer (23.2Whr) ThinkPad Battery 3 cell Li-Polymer (23.2Whr) 45W AC Adapter - US (2pin) Intel Dual Band Wireless 7260AC with Bluetooth 4.0 Integrated Mobile Broadband upgradable Publication - US English Microsoft Office Home and Student 2013 (North America) - English 1 Year Depot or Carry-in Planning on dropping an SSD and more RAM in it myself. Any recommendations or criticisms? Also, would the tutorial that QuarkJets posted about modding his Y410p be applicable to the T440s as well? Can anyone recommend RAM, or give some pointers on which brands to avoid at least? I've already got a good idea of what SSD to use from the SSD thread.
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If you're getting an SSD then what's with this?quote: 16GB M.2 Solid State Drive Single
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Bob Morales posted:If you're getting an SSD then what's with this?
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What's the cheapest 1920x1080 resolution laptop available? I see some UX31A Zenbook on Amazon for like $750.
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I have this old (like 4 years I think) laptop. It's a Dell XPS M1530, if the case is to be believed. Anyway, it has the Core 2 Duo and an nVidia 8600M GT. I get scary notifications about old drivers all the time, the internal temperature jumps to 85 when I open anything more intense than Firefox, and the case is coming apart. I think I need a new computer. I was thinking a Thinkpad T430, but there's so many options and stuff to choose. While basically anything would be an upgrade, I like the idea of being able to play modern games on my laptop. I've been playing everything on the lowest possible specs for so long that I don't really care about graphics quality, just performance. As in, getting a game to run is good performance. So I'm thinking one of the i5 options, with the display upgrade, maybe a wireless upgrade? I don't really know what I am doing, and I don't have a good handle on the various choices. Like what is the marginal difference between the HD4000 graphics card and the nVidia upgrade? Basically, I would like the flexibility to have a wide range of different games run, but I don't care too much about getting to high performance with them. I don't really know the value of some of these options, like the wireless things, but they seem important. What is a good set of options and a price range for a T430 that can run a good range of games on low to medium with no trouble?
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If you're having trouble booting off the SATA port in your Lenovo with an mSATA drive, check to see that the SATA device isn't being hidden in the boot devices before ripping your laptop and drives apart 3 times to make sure the connections are good. Makes sense when you don't want to boot off 'D: (Data)' by accident but throws you for a loop when you try to switch stuff around. I've got Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on my Crucial 64GB mSATA SSD and Windows 7 going on my 240GB Mushkin SSD. Pretty neat.
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