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dimebag dinkman
Feb 20, 2003

Internet Webguy posted:

Personally, my favorite is "Hacking 'Suspects'".

I think the thing on the left is just a white smudge, and it's just an apostrophe, not single-quotes.

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TheHoodedClaw
Jul 26, 2008

The capital "C" in the Express sub is just awful.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

thehustler posted:

It's annoying because I like Cohen sometimes and his book is great but on this I couldn't disagree with him more. He goes on about the illegal side and how the police should have acted and the law used. Which is fine. But then he forgets that Leveson was also about morals and ethics as well, which clearly does need changing.

You're not mixing him up with Nick Davies are you? I keep doing that and I don't know why

TheHoodedClaw posted:

The [...] Express [...] is just awful.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
I believe the first utterance of CoulsonXBrooks was one evening in IRC during the Leveson inquiry by Pickled Tink. I was busy typing away a slashfic of the Right Hon. Raisa MEP (I only vote Neigh) and David Cameron and Tink suggested it as what if....

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Captain_Maclaine posted:

That's the one that caught my attention to. I mean seriously, they need to qualify "suspects?" Like there's actual doubt that the state at least suspects them of being involved? Weak spin attempt, Daily Heil, weak.

They're using suspects in the possessive if I'm not mistaken, not as a qualifier.

Gambrinus
Mar 1, 2005
What's this cartoon referring to?

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cartoon/2013/oct/31/steve-bell-if#start-of-comments

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo

baka kaba posted:

You're not mixing him up with Nick Davies are you? I keep doing that and I don't know why

Nah I'm definitely not. I have nothing further to add to this post though :)

Heresiarch
Oct 6, 2005

Literature is not exhaustible, for the sufficient and simple reason that no single book is. A book is not an isolated being: it is a relationship, an axis of innumerable relationships.

Sex Vicar posted:

Tomorrow's front pages are out. See if you can spot the outlier in tomorrow's coverage.






The sheer audacity of UK tabloid headlines never ceases to give me pause.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I like the Mail's sheer desperation to claw back some support. FREE CASH! WE PUT FIFTY QUID IN SOME PAPERS!! C'MON!!!

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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baka kaba posted:

I like the Mail's sheer desperation to claw back some support. FREE CASH! WE PUT FIFTY QUID IN SOME PAPERS!! C'MON!!!

Wait, has the mails circulation been dropping? Oh please tell me that it has!

Tacky-Ass Rococco
Sep 7, 2010

by R. Guyovich

Josef bugman posted:

Wait, has the mails circulation been dropping? Oh please tell me that it has!

Are British papers subject to the same forces that are killing off US papers, or do British papers (maybe due to Britain's relatively small size?) have a substantially greater cultural cachet which serves to increase their viability? As an American observer I get the impression that it's something along the lines of the latter. I'm really fascinated by this whole saga, but from across the pond it's strange to think that a) people still read newspapers, and b) they have as much influence as they appear to have.

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






Circulation numbers are dropping but the Mail still does well for itself, proof that there is no benevolent God.

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






It does make my heart sing when I go to look at the circlation figures and the News of the World has N/A since 2012.

haakman
May 5, 2011
I am actually salivating at the thought of the next Private Eye.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Little_wh0re posted:

Circulation numbers are dropping but the Mail still does well for itself, proof that there is no benevolent God.

The Daily Mail site is ranked 95 by Alexa, ahead of sites like Netflix and Youporn. There's a reason their articles seem to be getting more and more disgusting as time goes on, it gets people from all over the world to go on their site unlike before where only people in England were buying the paper.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary

Scott Bakula posted:

The Daily Mail site is ranked 95 by Alexa, ahead of sites like Netflix and Youporn. There's a reason their articles seem to be getting more and more disgusting as time goes on, it gets people from all over the world to go on their site unlike before where only people in England were buying the paper.

The Daily Mail online is mainly celebrity gossip and is of quite different tone to the print version.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I didn't know that. I've never bought the paper so assumed they were largely the same. Makes sense I suppose though that the site is a load of horrible click bait but the paper stays the same for the people who've always bought it and would never use the site

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
You'd think they want to keep the FILTHY IMMIGRANTS from reading their paper online.

Quote-Unquote
Oct 22, 2002



The Daily Mail Online is thinly-veiled child pornography marketed towards Nazis.
If you read it you are literally a Nazi paedophile.

Rush Limbo
Sep 5, 2005

its with a full house
So the target Demographic is Joseph Ratzinger?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Quote-Unquote posted:

The Daily Mail Online is thinly-veiled child pornography marketed towards Nazis.
If you read it you are literally a Nazi paedophile.

We go over this regularly in the UK Megathread. Mail Online routinely runs articles lauding crackdowns on kiddy porn and paedos at the BBC while their sidebar is full of photos of teenage celebrities with headlines such as "Chloe Moretz looks all grown up". And yes, they do mostly say "all grown up".

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






or "Is a big girl now" or I think I remember someone saying recently they had "is just like her mother"

last I was aware anyway, I've tried to make it policy to never click on a daily mail link.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

More from the prosecution again this morning, you can follow it on Twitter with this Twitter list.

hexa
Dec 10, 2004

And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom

Little_wh0re posted:

Circulation numbers are dropping but the Mail still does well for itself, proof that there is no benevolent God.

The Mail is the second biggest daily, with The Sun as the first. Pretty close in print figures but the Mail Online site pretty much dwarves the Sun's.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
That's quite the sting they just got on Coulson:

Edis: Coulson to Edmondson "You think Calum a leak?" Edmondson "She's a nightmare" Coulson; "DO HIS PHONE"

PiCroft
Jun 11, 2010

I'm sorry, did I break all your shit? I didn't know it was yours

Every paper is experiencing freefalling circulations IIRC, the Mail is no exception, its still one of the most widely read papers in the country though.

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






glitchkrieg posted:

The Mail is the second biggest daily, with The Sun as the first. Pretty close in print figures but the Mail Online site pretty much dwarves the Sun's.

Plus the sun recently went behind a paywall, With its draw of football and breasts, which are difficult to find elsewhere online.

Pocky In My Pocket
Jan 27, 2005

Giant robots shouldn't fight!






Plavski posted:

That's quite the sting they just got on Coulson:

Edis: Coulson to Edmondson "You think Calum a leak?" Edmondson "She's a nightmare" Coulson; "DO HIS PHONE"

Is this verbatim or did you drop a bunch of words somewhere?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

As someone just noted, there's 7 charges, and they've only just finished detailing the 1st charge. This could take a couple of weeks at this rate.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

Brown Moses posted:

As someone just noted, there's 7 charges, and they've only just finished detailing the 1st charge. This could take a couple of weeks at this rate.

We have 6 months, this isn't a memory test and a third thing.

After detailing the charges what happens next?

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary

Little_wh0re posted:

Is this verbatim or did you drop a bunch of words somewhere?

It was a tweet. Here's a clarifying one from Martin Evans:

'During investigations into a story involving Calum Best, Andy Coulson sent Ian Edmondson an email which read: "Do his phone."'

Another interesting titbit:

Dominic Casciani ‏@BBCDomC
"Police found 15 royal-related directories at Clive Goodman's home. Two of the 15 were the results of payments to police, say prosecution."
"One of the 15 directories had an officer's fingerprint on it, says Andrew Edis. No suggestion that specific one was sold to the NOTW."

That's some Hollywood stuff right there.

Plavski fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Nov 1, 2013

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
What exactly is the Express smoking these days?

OppyDoppyDopp
Feb 17, 2012

notaspy posted:

After detailing the charges what happens next?
The opening is a summary of the allegations and the key bits of evidence; after this they will go into the evidence in mind numbing detail.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

HTJ posted:

The opening is a summary of the allegations and the key bits of evidence; after this they will go into the evidence in mind numbing detail.

I loving love mind numbing detail. Can I just rock up to the court and get a seat (in a few weeks when all the interest boils off)?

The Dark Project
Jun 25, 2007

Give it to me straight...

Dominic Casciani ‏@BBCDomC posted:

"Prosecution say there is evidence that Andy Coulson knew that during 2006 Mulcaire was being paid story-by-story for royal exclusives. There are different versions of the email evidence on this, says prosecution, but most important are emails disclosed by News International. Those emails, says prosecution, show Andy Coulson knew of the role Mulcaire played in getting stories on the princes at Sandhurst."

Whoops.

notaspy
Mar 22, 2009

OK, so let's assume the all get banged up, how does this affect the standing of Rup in the US, in light of the foreign payments law they have? Plus what about the oversight that he should have been doing as the owner of NI?

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Here's Press Reform's updates for today
http://pressreform.blogspot.co.uk/2013/11/phone-hacking-trial-day-5.html?spref=tw

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

HTJ posted:

The opening is a summary of the allegations and the key bits of evidence; after this they will go into the evidence in mind numbing detail.

Keep in mind that as David Allen Green points out, the defendants all knew this was coming and still chose to plead not-guilty. Prosecution cases always look strong when they open, it'll be interesting to see what case they run.

OppyDoppyDopp
Feb 17, 2012

notaspy posted:

I loving love mind numbing detail. Can I just rock up to the court and get a seat (in a few weeks when all the interest boils off)?
Yup. The entrance for the public galleries is in a subway near the doors where the media congregate. You can't bring any electronic devices into the gallery and they won't store them for you, so you'll have to leave your phone at home.

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goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

HTJ posted:

The opening is a summary of the allegations and the key bits of evidence; after this they will go into the evidence in mind numbing detail.

Well, strictly speaking next comes the defence's opening statements - they'll almost certainly be shorter and pretty much boil down to reminding the jury about burden of proof and other general stuff rather than directly trying to rebut the prosecution opening statement. They'll save their best shots for the end of the trial, hoping to influence the summing-up and jury deliberations by getting the last word.

notaspy posted:

I loving love mind numbing detail. Can I just rock up to the court and get a seat (in a few weeks when all the interest boils off)?

Theoretically yes, but you'll have to get there well early to stand a chance.

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