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Helushune
Oct 5, 2011

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:

NO THROWING ANYTHING OUT EVER :mad:

Might I interest you in some Word for Windows?



I should have put a post-it with my username or something but I assure you, those are real discs we have sitting over by our pile of spare hard drives.

EDIT: Image updated

Helushune fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Nov 4, 2013

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mewse
May 2, 2006

I found some brand new shrink wrapped copies of DOS 6.22 a couple weeks ago :allears:

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

McGlockenshire posted:

While fixing the clock on our our ancient PBX, I discovered that every phone in the building is actually able to set the time.

And I don't know how to fix it.

:stonklol:
I'm not too familiar with PBX, but our phones uh ... phone home ... to the TFTP server every 15 minutes and wipe any custom settings.

edit: I misread. I see. PBX doesn't sync to a timeserver regularly then?

McGlockenshire
Dec 16, 2005

GOLLOCKS!

Caged posted:

It's a PBX so the menu system is probably more secure than a password.

You have no idea.



That's a Java applet that acts as a VT-100 emulator, by the way.

teethgrinder posted:

I'm not too familiar with PBX, but our phones uh ... phone home ... to the TFTP server every 15 minutes and wipe any custom settings.

edit: I misread. I see. PBX doesn't sync to a timeserver regularly then?

Ours do the TFTP thing on boot to get their firmware. Everything else about them, from their softbuttons to everything on the display is actually done completely server-side.

The PBX has no setting for an external time server. Everything on the internet says that in order to correctly set the time, we need a special analog thing called an "attendant console" at which point magic buttons are pressed. In reality anyone can just hit the menu button enough times to get the "SET TIME?" prompt and set the time for everyone.

Hey, at least I found the DST controls! Well. How much time is added or removed. Not when to set/unset DST. Goddamnit. I'm so glad that we have the budget to replace this thing, now I just need enough time to do it...

McGlockenshire fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Nov 4, 2013

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


All I know about old PBXs is that a guy I worked with who dealt with the Avaya stuff we had used to drink heavily.

TheFuglyStik
Mar 7, 2003

Attention-starved & smugly condescending, the hipster has been deemed by
top scientists as:
"The self-important, unemployable clowns of the modern age."

thebigcow posted:

Win2k runs just fine under VMware, and you can shuffle a directory of files to a new machine when the old one starts dying and be up and running like nothing happened. Just saying.

After this machine dies, I'll be looking into this option.

Of course, the new rig will have a lock on the case. :shepicide:

evol262
Nov 30, 2010
#!/usr/bin/perl

TheFuglyStik posted:

After this machine dies, I'll be looking into this option.
You may want to P2V it before you have more problems.

SubjectVerbObject
Jul 27, 2009

Caged posted:

All I know about old PBXs is that a guy I worked with who dealt with the Avaya stuff we had used to drink heavily.

Confirming that liver function of PBX admins is on par with sysadmins. We just complain about ATT and other trunk providers instead of Microsoft/Dell/HP. Although I do have hardware horror stories about softswitch server hardware.

Rhymenoserous
May 23, 2008

Helushune posted:

Might I interest you in some Word for Windows?



I should have put a post-it with my username or something but I assure you, those are real discs we have sitting over by our pile of spare hard drives.

EDIT: Image updated

See, I just dump poo poo like this in the trash when I see it.

dennyk
Jan 2, 2005

Cheese-Buyer's Remorse

underlig posted:

The assholes who worked here before apparently thought "everything must be saved/stored".

Picture this except with all of the server hardware at a web hosting company and you have my last job. :v: Though, in fairness, we did at least periodically recycle the stuff that was truly nonfunctional.

When we actually did buy new hardware, it was always the cheapest possible stuff we could get away with, too. Protip: five-year-old remanufactured Seagate Cheetahs should not be used for server hard drives unless you just like listening to a chorus of RAID alarms beeping away forever.

Powdered Toast Man
Jan 25, 2005

TOAST-A-RIFIC!!!

TheFuglyStik posted:

Of course, the new rig will have a lock on the case. :shepicide:

I really needed that laugh, thanks. :laffo:

Daylen Drazzi
Mar 10, 2007

Why do I root for Notre Dame? Because I like pain, and disappointment, and anguish. Notre Dame Football has destroyed more dreams than the Irish Potato Famine, and that is the kind of suffering I can get behind.
So on Friday my team lead told me I need to go through our vulnerability system and pick out the ones that apply to our servers. Not a big deal, even though it's the first time I've ever done it. As I'm looking through the list I'm trying to figure out which of the assets listed are ours, and say as much to the TL. This prompts a mini-rant about how I need to loving pay attention to the poo poo he emails me and figure out my head from my rear end. As insults and rants go it's pretty mild - I've had students who could do better (back when I taught high school history). No biggy.

Co-worker IM's me this morning and says I should report the TL to my contract manager (TL and I work for different companies under a third company's umbrella) rather than just sit back and take it. I squashed that idea immediately, since the TL is just an annoyance from time to time, but if I introduce some friction from my contract manager and his contract manager throwing down over this then things could definitely take a turn for the worse in short order.

I'm not totally ignoring the problem, but I'm definitely taking note of things in case this crap goes on . I'm all for overlooking minor annoyances in the interest of team harmony, but maybe I'm being a bit too naive about the situation.

Helushune
Oct 5, 2011

Rhymenoserous posted:

See, I just dump poo poo like this in the trash when I see it.

We found them when going through an old storage cache we didn't know existed along with a bunch of other stuff like Win2k Server, SQL Server license packs (sorry, License Pak), BackOffice 1.0, and a bunch of other ancient stuff we recycled. Every student we have has never seen a 3.5 floppy letalone a 5.25 so we keep them around to show them. I have a couple old zip disks on my desk that they like to look at as well.

Content: IIS can go straight to hell. The power outage apparently took out two of our WSUS servers and everything I'm reading about the errors point to a bad IIS configuration. The control panel is absolutely awful to make any sort of heads or tails of and poo poo is hidden in all sorts of nooks and crannies of various submenus. I'm at the point where I'm just going to virtualize them which is what I should have done when I first got the job.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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Daylen Drazzi posted:

I'm not totally ignoring the problem, but I'm definitely taking note of things in case this crap goes on . I'm all for overlooking minor annoyances in the interest of team harmony, but maybe I'm being a bit too naive about the situation.

By "take note" I assume you mean you're actually documenting incidents with dates and times.

Have you addressed this with the TL directly? Tell him you take exception to phrases like "figure out your head from your rear end" (did he really say that?)? I mean, sometimes these people don't realize they're being abrasive and unprofessional, and that you don't respond well to that style of "leadership." When you haven't done anything wrong, it's inappropriate to treat you as if you had.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Just found out today that the boss keeps all our 'fire-safe' tape backups on their hobby farm just out of town.

In a totally not dust-proof shed.

Also, I have a disciplinary meeting tomorrow that covers the following bullshit 'breaches' I have apparently made:

1. Dress code violations that are not OHS compliant I have supplied uniforms, I wear them. If in the field I have the correct PPE, bought myself as the company stuff usually out of it's service date

2. Timesheets No idea what they mean by this as my timesheets have all relevant information including job number and detailed task documentation in 6 minute blocks

3. Untidy workspace I have a small desk and lots of work hardware to find spaces for, previously had a lovely huge desk to space all equipment out on before we moved office

4. Generally Negative Demeanor Of course a stressed out employee is going to seem a little down, add a touch of recovering alcoholic and depression to the mix and you get me. Boss is quite aware of my situation.

5. Lack of communication whilst working at client locations Actually got in trouble yesterday for OVER communicating issues with current task

6. Remote Equipment failure Apparently my fault when the internal testing time of new equipment is zero. Then access to remote site is not available immediately, I actually went there on my days off to tear the equipment out, 200km round trip on my dime.

:yotj: update - furiously refreshing my personal email account for final acceptance/denial notification from new company.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

DagPenge
Jun 4, 2011

Looks like our civilians are fine, thank god for the capitalist spirit!
Today at my job:

Has to go to a customer to implement something another tech, who is leaving the company today, has designed and of course it's not even done nor does it fill any of the requirements the customer has.

Documentation does exsist but is just alot of text files with no version control, so I have no idea which one is most current except for timestaps on the files. Also certain pieces of info seems to be missing but it takes about 5-10min to verify this due to all the different files.

Tech laptop I got to bring with me to the customer lacks battery time all together and uses a centrino duo core

I am not even getting paid for this, except for unemployment benifits, since my company "hired" me using a goverment program, that allows me to work for them for a month while only getting unemployment benifits, in the hope that they will give me a job afterwards.

Oh why is the IT job market so crappy in Denmark, I got top grades, a CCNA, Microsoft AD and network certs, 4 years of experience as an apprentice and yet nobody seems to want to hire me. Sucks to be too highly qualified for entry level and lacking the experince for the better jobs.

seadweller
Mar 30, 2010

EAT THE EGGS RICOLA posted:


NO THROWING ANYTHING OUT EVER :mad:

I did a minor YOTJ recently. :toot: Check out what's in our storeroom:



I'm trying to get a chuck out in progress do we really need 300 nero 7 cd's?

*edit* wow a lot of posts before I got that up

Bonus points if you can identify the software to the right of DOS 5 the blueish box.

seadweller fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Nov 5, 2013

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


seadweller posted:

I did a minor YOTJ recently. :toot: Check out what's in our storeroom:



I'm trying to get a chuck out in progress do we really need 300 nero 7 cd's?

*edit* wow a lot of posts before I got that up

Bonus points if you can identify the software to the right of DOS 5 the blueish box.

For some reason I like old software still in it's box. Maybe I like to nostalgia too much.

seadweller
Mar 30, 2010

Humphreys posted:

For some reason I like old software still in it's box. Maybe I like to nostalgia too much.

I think its the fact that there actually was something physical beyond the disc. I still remember the manual that came with Dos 6 on my first home PC. You could moore a battleship with it.

There are some cupboards underneath the glassed in shelves that I can't get to because of junk I shudder to think what may be in them. Here be Dragoons!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


seadweller posted:

I think its the fact that there actually was something physical beyond the disc. I still remember the manual that came with Dos 6 on my first home PC. You could moore a battleship with it.

There are some cupboards underneath the glassed in shelves that I can't get to because of junk I shudder to think what may be in them. Here be Dragoons!

If only we were still in our old office, there was some really old AVID branded 3D program manual used to prevent further sag in a desktop overloaded with gear.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003

SubjectVerbObject posted:

Confirming that liver function of PBX admins is on par with sysadmins.

So.. how about those guys who are both PBX and sysadmin?

:cry:

Bob Morales
Aug 18, 2006


Just wear the fucking mask, Bob

I don't care how many people I probably infected with COVID-19 while refusing to wear a mask, my comfort is far more important than the health and safety of everyone around me!

Caged posted:

All I know about old PBXs is that a guy I worked with who dealt with the Avaya stuff we had used to drink heavily.



I kinda miss the old AUDIX box at my old job.

SubjectVerbObject
Jul 27, 2009

Crowley posted:

So.. how about those guys who are both PBX and sysadmin?

:cry:

The people I have seen who were really good PBX engineers and knew the back end OS stuff were either Linux Zen Masters or right wing gun nuts. I don't think they drank that much. If they got stressed they just shot something or reinstalled Slackware.

T-Shaped
Jan 16, 2006

The weapons you pick up along the way help. At least they help you do less talking.
I currently work at a non-profit and this morning has been fun. I took Monday as a mental health day to catch up on a lot of things, since work has been having a lot of trouble financially to the point of late paychecks and I've been looking to YOTJ as soon as possible.

I come in today. In the day i was gone, our HR Assistant quit and our only outreach person got fired. We're now down to 15 employees compared to the about 25-30 we had when I started.

Instead of cleaning up our server issues and doing prep for a new hire that's coming in a week, I'm now making fliers, doing social media postings, and I've been conscripted to be part of the grant writing team since I'm the only one here that "knows how to do it". Mind you, I'm the only IT/Sysadmin here.

Send help.

As an added bonus, the new hire is filling neither of those vacant positions whatsoever.

RadicalR
Jan 20, 2008

"Businessmen are the symbol of a free society
---
the symbol of America."

T-Shaped posted:

I currently work at a non-profit and this morning has been fun. I took Monday as a mental health day to catch up on a lot of things, since work has been having a lot of trouble financially to the point of late paychecks and I've been looking to YOTJ as soon as possible.

I come in today. In the day i was gone, our HR Assistant quit and our only outreach person got fired. We're now down to 15 employees compared to the about 25-30 we had when I started.

Instead of cleaning up our server issues and doing prep for a new hire that's coming in a week, I'm now making fliers, doing social media postings, and I've been conscripted to be part of the grant writing team since I'm the only one here that "knows how to do it". Mind you, I'm the only IT/Sysadmin here.

Send help.

As an added bonus, the new hire is filling neither of those vacant positions whatsoever.

I think you should just quit right now and spend all your time YOTJing.

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
Man, I'm on a roll lately. I'm on interview #3 (out of 4) with a company I'm really interested in, and two other companies have been calling me to set up interview times.

I'm keeping that bottle of YOTJ scotch at arms-reach at all times... :choco:

Dehry
Aug 21, 2009

Grimey Drawer
One of our (soon to be former) clients has been giving salespeople Windows 8 laptops on a trial basis. They all have windows firewall disabled by a GPO and AVG to boot. Turns out, our users actually used the metro apps and now most of them refuse to run without updating. Now I'm stuck with aging tickets of people with broken Xbox music players that can't update because Windows Store requires the firewall to be on. I've set their default programs to Windows Media Player, but a lot of them miss the free music programs.

T-Shaped
Jan 16, 2006

The weapons you pick up along the way help. At least they help you do less talking.

RadicalR posted:

I think you should just quit right now and spend all your time YOTJing.

It gets better.

I get brought into HR today, where I'm chewed out for being "brusk" with other employees and told I should be nicer. Remember, this is only about a 15 person place with a HR department. I don't know either.

On top of that, the outreach person we fired? It was made official - I'm the new one. With no pay bump at all and I was told "I just have to fit it in with my other duties".

I can't get out fast enough.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

RadicalR posted:

I think you should just quit right now and spend all your time YOTJing.

Why quit? Just do the job poorly because it isn't in your job description one assumes. Do it slow and lovely and hopefully they fire you and you can collect unemployment.

Che Delilas
Nov 23, 2009
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T-Shaped posted:

"I just have to fit it in with my other duties".
"No, thanks."

quote:

..I'm chewed out for being "brusk" with other employees and told I should be nicer.
Here's a reprimand, also, we want you to do more work for us for no extra compensation. We have no cognitive dissonance from these two things.

I reiterate. No, thanks.

mewse
May 2, 2006

Once pay starts getting late you're past the point you have to get out

Dilbert As FUCK
Sep 8, 2007

by Cowcaster
Pillbug
Gah, gently caress office 365 biggest load of poo poo ever. Or maybe it's because none of the engineers I said "hey let's do X" have this thing where they can't say "No" to a client. JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN doesn't mean you should.

I love getting +2 days of work tied up explaining how the backend of O365 and other projects to the same engineers who implemented said project.


I love explaining to my lead Vmware engineer the basis of how vShield works!

Dilbert As FUCK fucked around with this message at 03:12 on Nov 6, 2013

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Caged posted:

All I know about old PBXs is that a guy I worked with who dealt with the Avaya stuff we had used to drink heavily.

The guy that manages our Avaya system for 700+ seats of call center workers is a heavy heavy drinker. Like booze at his desk and no one cares.

QuiteEasilyDone
Jul 2, 2010

Won't you play with me?
If his booze levels drop below the Bell peak, you'll know when it happens as your telephone system self-destructs.

Crowley
Mar 13, 2003

SubjectVerbObject posted:

The people I have seen who were really good PBX engineers and knew the back end OS stuff were either Linux Zen Masters or right wing gun nuts. I don't think they drank that much. If they got stressed they just shot something or reinstalled Slackware.

Middle ground. I'm no Zen Master but I know my way around Linux, and I'm not right wing but I do like shooting.

Instead of reinstalling Slackware (ew!) I go boxing. going a few rounds against my old boss works wonders. (I'm stronger, he's faster. I wait for openings, he's aggressive. It's a great match.)

skooky
Oct 2, 2013
One of our larger customers has had memory errors over 3 years for a particular slot on an 8 year old server and have just now decided to log the issue as a "high severity" case. Replaced a DIMM, memory error came back, no biggie, we'll replace the mobo as that's literally the only other part we can replace. Customer incident manager comes back with a long-winded email with these choice quotes.

quote:

XXX has concerns that replacing the mother board may end up causing a corruption on the operating system level due to different firmware thus making the dive inaccessible and leaving us in a state that cannot be recovered from

quote:

I request that I have a confirmation from your Delivery Lead or manager that this restoration you are wanting to perform has been pear reviewed and XXX does not have to be concerned about replacing the mother board and any perinatal impact to the Windows 2003 Operating system running a key system for the group

:shepicide:

door.jar
Mar 17, 2010

"pear reviewed" is great, but I'm drawing a blank on what word he was aiming for with "perinatal".

EDIT: Wait, perinatal problems with a motherboard replacement? :spooky:

Experto Crede
Aug 19, 2008

Keep on Truckin'
Had my first proper fight with mssql management studio yesterday to duplicate a site and its database.

I might just be thick but I found the whole experience an absolute nightmare, the program is unintuitive and when you try to export a database it offers to save it to tape :psyduck:

BurgerQuest
Mar 17, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
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guppy
Sep 21, 2004

sting like a byob

door.jar posted:

"pear reviewed" is great, but I'm drawing a blank on what word he was aiming for with "perinatal".

Peripheral, I think?

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