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Dumb question, there's an achievement now for not letting the cops get the fuse box on FF day 3 when you gently caress up the stealth. Could you do the stealth right, get the gold out and then draw heat somehow (killing a dominated guard?) and still do that part or does that not work?
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Nov 4, 2013 20:07
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FishBulb posted:Dumb question, there's an achievement now for not letting the cops get the fuse box on FF day 3 when you gently caress up the stealth. Could you do the stealth right, get the gold out and then draw heat somehow (killing a dominated guard?) and still do that part or does that not work?
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Nov 4, 2013 20:10
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Shredder posted:Is there a way to lua hack specific weapon mods? I don't want all of them, just a freaking silencer and a flashlight would be pretty nice; I'm almost level 50 and haven't seen a drat primary weapon flashlight. I'll save you some time here and just let you know that flashlights really loving suck.
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Nov 4, 2013 20:11
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zylche posted:As soon as you trigger an alarm you have to go through the 'hack the PC' route. Good luck. Yeah that's what I want though... For the achievement. Just figured it would be worth it to get the money first. Yeah it would be a long run.
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Nov 4, 2013 20:13
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FishBulb posted:Yeah that's what I want though... For the achievement. Just figured it would be worth it to get the money first. Yeah it would be a long run. Was discussing that with a coworker today, we think that might be the best route since you could: get the gold, have the server room open, and locate the power switches all in advance.
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Nov 4, 2013 20:21
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Would tripping the lasers in the vault work? I have no idea what that actually does...
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Nov 4, 2013 20:23
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ForeverBWFC posted:Would tripping the lasers in the vault work? I have no idea what that actually does... It sets off an alarm so yeah that's probably the easiest. Just bring a lot of trip mines and put them on the switches.
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Nov 4, 2013 20:25
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Is there some lua or other script I could run to get infinite health or unable to be downed to run on single player to hunt for secrets / glitches without having to worry about dozers?
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Nov 4, 2013 20:26
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Aliginge posted:EDIT: I can breeze through any PD2 heist in my ICTV on max difficulty and I still cannot complete First World Bank on Overkill 145+ or Green Bridge Overkill.. Green Bridge OVK isn't that bad, the trick is to have 3 people go to the escape in the first non-assault-wave after you get the dude in place, one guy stays behind to make sure the chopper will come by. Either just assume he's doomed or hope he makes it out. 145+ is a different matter and for crazies.
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Nov 4, 2013 21:54
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145 was for people who hated themselves.
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Nov 4, 2013 22:23
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Jamfrost posted:I also did one thing that the ICTV can't. In fact, wearing the ICTV would have resulted in death. I accidentally ran into a kill squad, a Taser and 2 Broncos, and dodged all the rounds from the Broncos, to my great surprise, and killed them all. I have come to the disheartening conclusion that the Suit not only has more utility, but also allows a player to tank more effectively than an ICTV. I have no idea how you draw that conclusion. Unless they've changed how armor dodged worked you can only dodge while sprinting, so you weren't magically dodging shots while you were killing them, the bad guys just luckily missed.
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Nov 5, 2013 01:00
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Moochewmoo posted:I have no idea how you draw that conclusion. Unless they've changed how armor dodged worked you can only dodge while sprinting, so you weren't magically dodging shots while you were killing them, the bad guys just luckily missed. This isn't true and has never been true. Dodge works perfectly fine no matter how you're moving, the only difference is that the sprinter skill bonus only comes into effect if you are sprinting.
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Nov 5, 2013 01:10
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Vatek posted:This isn't true and has never been true. Dodge works perfectly fine no matter how you're moving, the only difference is that the sprinter skill bonus only comes into effect if you are sprinting. Can you dodge while standing still, or do you have to be moving?
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Nov 5, 2013 02:24
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bbcisdabomb posted:Can you dodge while standing still, or do you have to be moving? You can dodge while standing still. Your chance to dodge is increased when moving with Aced Sprinter by 25%. Edit: The skill description says the bonus applies when you're moving, so I don't think you even need to run for it to take effect. Jamfrost fucked around with this message at 02:48 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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Nov 5, 2013 02:46
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Vatek posted:This isn't true and has never been true. Dodge works perfectly fine no matter how you're moving, the only difference is that the sprinter skill bonus only comes into effect if you are sprinting. Well dodge on armor only came about last few patches, and how dodge works isn't exactly clear.
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Nov 5, 2013 02:50
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I felt kind of bad for my Steam buddies while playing Safehouse Nightmare. I have both aced Chameleon and the dodge increase while sprinting, so while I was darting around barely taking damage they'd go down over and over. I'd run away, run back to Inspire them up, then run away only for them to immediately go back down. One of them even had ICTV 
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Nov 5, 2013 02:52
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Moochewmoo posted:Well dodge on armor only came about last few patches, and how dodge works isn't exactly clear. I don't understand the first part. Dodge has been around since release. It's how I dodged while wearing the ICTV in earlier patches. But yes, this game has a lot of hidden mechanics that are taught by word of mouth. I doubt we'll have an in-depth, in-game tutorial ever.
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Nov 5, 2013 02:59
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Jamfrost posted:I don't understand the first part. Dodge has been around since release. It's how I dodged while wearing the ICTV in earlier patches. Dodge being a stat on armor is pretty new-ish. Dodge being a ghost skill has been around since forever. I'm not looking for any sort of tutorial however, even some sort of data mine that explains when dodge is or isn't in effect.
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Nov 5, 2013 03:16
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Moochewmoo posted:Dodge being a stat on armor is pretty new-ish. Dodge being a ghost skill has been around since forever. I'm not looking for any sort of tutorial however, even some sort of data mine that explains when dodge is or isn't in effect. This video isn't aimed directly at you (edit: since I can't data mine). I still need to run some walking tests with the CTV to determine if it's sprint that activates Aced Sprinter to determine whether it's just added on as a hard 25% to dodge like the Ghost Tier 1 and 3 bonuses. Or if walking can also trigger Aced Sprinter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWH2t1SneRo Edit: Considering that I'm able to dodge in the CTV which has a -25% dodge penalty and Ghost Tiers 1 and 3 only give +15%. Aced Sprinter gives +25% while running (haven't been successful with it while walking) giving a 15% total dodge rating. ICTV has a -75% dodge penalty so there's no way to build up the dodge percentage to beat that. Jamfrost fucked around with this message at 03:51 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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Nov 5, 2013 03:35
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Do you want to know what it feels like when everyone else has Aced Chameleon? Red Mark a headless. They all act like I said the most amazing taunt and beeline to me while ignoring everyone. I am switching to Suit.
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Nov 5, 2013 03:44
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Scalding Coffee posted:Do you want to know what it feels like when everyone else has Aced Chameleon? Red Mark a headless. They all act like I said the most amazing taunt and beeline to me while ignoring everyone. I am switching to Suit. I had a mixed reaction to the extension of the event. More time to try and achieve the impossible and receive 1 Halloween pattern, but at the cost of having 4 Headless Saiga 'Dozers interrupting my Day 3 Firestarter that I was hosting with pubs. Edit: At the same time. Edit: Here's an ICTV going through the same stress test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaGDbw22tXc. Jamfrost fucked around with this message at 04:33 on Nov 5, 2013 |
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Nov 5, 2013 04:03
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:I'll save you some time here and just let you know that flashlights really loving suck. the flashlights are actually pretty handy to have on a rats day 1 cook, and the concealability hit doesn't matter a lick
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Nov 5, 2013 04:35
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I'm interested in getting this, is there any kind of pub scene or is this the kind of game you really only want to try and play with friends?
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Nov 5, 2013 04:48
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For real, I just crank the brightness all the way up if your having trouble spotting dudes in Rats 1 or the nightclub. I still roll flashlight plus suppressor on my stealth pistols so I can send messages to my buddies.TheMostFrench posted:I'm interested in getting this, is there any kind of pub scene or is this the kind of game you really only want to try and play with friends? There are goons that play still and friends are always a plus. Here's the link to the goon crew. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3562049
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Nov 5, 2013 04:54
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TheMostFrench posted:I'm interested in getting this, is there any kind of pub scene or is this the kind of game you really only want to try and play with friends? I only play with Goons and have a blast. Usually next to no wait/soloing either. Almost always someone down to shoot mans.
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Nov 5, 2013 04:54
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TheMostFrench posted:I'm interested in getting this, is there any kind of pub scene or is this the kind of game you really only want to try and play with friends? There are some fantastic pubs out there, and there are not. I recommend friends for stability and pubs for that mixed bag feeling (bring patience). Some just don't listen to the host. I had one fail to disarm some C4 on a bus resulting in many bags of money exploding after clearly saying I'll be the one to handle the bags. Another time, a master Mastermind popped in and made Safe House Nightmare a breeze.
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Nov 5, 2013 04:55
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Does the Ghost's armor penetration thing with silencers apply to shotguns?
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Nov 5, 2013 05:07
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Jamfrost posted:Another time, a master Mastermind popped in and made Safe House Nightmare a breeze. Yeah, as an Inspirational Mastermind, that mission is really fun. Thanks to that mission, I got Witch Doctor really easily.
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Nov 5, 2013 05:12
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-Troika- posted:Does the Ghost's armor penetration thing with silencers apply to shotguns? As long as they have Silent Killer yes.
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Nov 5, 2013 05:19
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Isn't the ghost penetration ability good for guns regardless of being silenced or not? If not, I may have to look into that.
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Nov 5, 2013 05:47
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Thronde posted:Isn't the ghost penetration ability good for guns regardless of being silenced or not? If not, I may have to look into that. There are 2 of them. The higher level one is for ALL WEAPONS I think but the one you have to spend points to unlock is just for silenced guns. I should probably play with goons sometime instead of pubbies, I never have but I have no idea what mumble is and I'm bad at PC gaming.
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Nov 5, 2013 05:59
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So played a few rounds tonight as a Master/Ghost spec. I have no idea anyone can stand trying to do light armor builds. Dodge just isn't that amazing. It's so much more risky for such little benefit. I was forced into cover more often and my team mates got downed more frequently as well since there were so many more cops as opposed to when I just gun them all down with the .308/Loco. I've yet find a build that can compete with the killing power of Enfocer/Tech. Here's what I'm running now. http://goo.gl/m5u1Cz It's a great time for cop killin'.
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Nov 5, 2013 08:36
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Moochewmoo posted:So played a few rounds tonight as a Master/Ghost spec. I have no idea anyone can stand trying to do light armor builds. Dodge just isn't that amazing. It's so much more risky for such little benefit. I was forced into cover more often and my team mates got downed more frequently as well since there were so many more cops as opposed to when I just gun them all down with the .308/Loco. I've yet find a build that can compete with the killing power of Enfocer/Tech. I use max dodge as an Enforcer. I'm constantly running for the 25% dodge bonus. I use the suit and have 60% dodge while sprinting. A Mastermind specialist can use an extremely powerful Bronco, special marking, Tech headshot bonus, and the M308 to great effect. I use the Reinfeld and a Mac10 with an Aced Overkill and Run and Shoot from Aced Iron Man which greatly benefits from max speed sprinting. I used to be a Techforcer before deciding on becoming an Enforcer specialist. ICTV without the Bulletproof really doesn't feel too great ever since they removed dodge for it. It encourages a lot of kill-and-take-cover gameplay, while the Suit encourages "WHEEEEEEEE!" run and gunning. Some speedsters prefer the Sawed-Off Mosconi to wipe groups before darting away to kill something else. I'm just an Enforcer in a suit.
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Nov 5, 2013 08:59
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I'm trying to find a new build because I'm starting to get tired of my MM/Enforcer. I'd like to have inspire because I think it's very useful and wanted to get shaped charge since I never had it. I got this, any comments or ideas? http://goo.gl/qDr8ZM Oh and does anyone know if when they will turn off the halloween thing the crimenet gambling thing with offshore money will be turned off as well?
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Nov 5, 2013 10:17
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Le0 posted:I'm trying to find a new build because I'm starting to get tired of my MM/Enforcer. Offshore Payday should disappear when the event ends. That's what it did in the last event for Payday 2's birthday. Your build looks fine for what you want to do (have Inspire, have Shaped Charges, make Minions). Only ICTV users need Ghost Tier 4 bonus anyway.
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Nov 5, 2013 11:23
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Scalding Coffee posted:Do you want to know what it feels like when everyone else has Aced Chameleon? Red Mark a headless. They all act like I said the most amazing taunt and beeline to me while ignoring everyone. I am switching to Suit. For whatever reason marking a special is apparently the most threat-inducing action you can take in the game.
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Nov 5, 2013 12:13
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John Murdoch posted:For whatever reason marking a special is apparently the most threat-inducing action you can take in the game. That and an Aced Magplus AK 7.62 with a firebreather. 
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Nov 5, 2013 14:18
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Jesus poo poo Dodge-tanking is nuts. BRB Re-speccing away from enforcer forever.
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Nov 5, 2013 14:27
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I just gave it a try and it's a pretty fun difference from a full techforcer. Fun as heck going  around the place shotgunning cops in nothing but a suit.
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Nov 5, 2013 17:23
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Aliginge posted:Jesus poo poo Dodge-tanking is nuts. Just don't take ICTV. I went from top tier Enforcer to Bulletproof. All I really did was lose fully loaded and ICTV and kept everything else. Big ammo bags, some shotgun damage that I'll probably lose, a saw, as well as C4, Bulletproof, Smooth Talker and the Ghost movement bonus. I can run everywhere, carry poo poo, headshot like a motherfucker with an AR, take a surprisingly large amount of damage in light armor...It's a blast. I pair up with a buddy that can do all the quiet open stuff since I can do all the loud open. A wonderful goon suggested it and I never looked back. All I miss is punching shields down because that was tits.
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