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Why are you trying to keep it all as one system instead of splitting based on site? If it's 10,000 cameras in one place then holy gently caress.
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blackswordca posted:there is an official Internet Explorer anime short from Microsoft. This is unironically the best browser advert ever. I am deadly serious. That's really well done. Also, I have been hoping for a way to somehow put this URL from Digital_jesus into conversation somehow, but I can no longer wait: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUY9LFlYh0 I have no idea what any of this means, other than "heart" but jesus loving christ it's been stuck in my head for over two days since he first posted it. If i can infect one other person, perhaps i will be free of it.
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Nov 8, 2013 00:51
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blackswordca posted:there is an official Internet Explorer anime short from Microsoft. Microsoft marketing meeting:  how can we make IE more appealing to techies associate it with anime porn! 
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Nov 8, 2013 00:56
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nitrogen posted:This is unironically the best browser advert ever. I am deadly serious. That's really well done. Nope, sorry, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD9FAOPBiDk is the best hands down.
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Nov 8, 2013 01:00
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KillHour posted:16PB is a bit on the large side. The largest I've ever done is 2PB for a casino, and even that was a huge job. The issue is more about the throughput than the retention, though - all of these cameras are at different locations, and need to be centrally stored. Who do you talk about to get a 50gbps WAN connection, anyways? Probably be cheaper at that point to store the video at the edge and have a courier sneakernet the weekly data to a central archive
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Nov 8, 2013 02:16
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The biggest install I know of was about 20,000 cameras, and used 2 large SANs (~10Pb each) at Seperate locations and wrote to both for redundancy. How to get 50 GB/s of bandwidth, Call a telco and ask about dark fibre I guess. Projects I know of doing that sort of thing usually already have a network to run it on, or think nothing of comisioning 1000 km of fibre. If you are laying pipe or rail line, putting fibre with it is cheap.
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Nov 8, 2013 03:17
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Caged posted:Why are you trying to keep it all as one system instead of splitting based on site? If it's 10,000 cameras in one place then holy gently caress. It's really... odd actually. The cameras are pointed at digital signage. The company needs a way to prove that the displays are showing what they're supposed to when they're supposed to, so they are recording all 10,000 displays they have, and having the video compared against what SHOULD be displayed there. They want to store the data all at the same place so they can have people "forensically analyze" the feeds (their words, not mine) in their NOC to make sure everything's correct. It's basically one of the craziest requests I've ever had.
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Nov 8, 2013 03:33
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KillHour posted:It's really... odd actually. The cameras are pointed at digital signage. The company needs a way to prove that the displays are showing what they're supposed to when they're supposed to, so they are recording all 10,000 displays they have, and having the video compared against what SHOULD be displayed there. They want to store the data all at the same place so they can have people "forensically analyze" the feeds (their words, not mine) in their NOC to make sure everything's correct. It's basically one of the craziest requests I've ever had. What? The gently caress? I have nothing constructive to add.
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Nov 8, 2013 03:36
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Haha there's so much wrong with that idea and its implementation it's comical. It sounds like an idea Derek Zoolander would come up with.
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Nov 8, 2013 03:45
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A manager called, said her POS terminals and VOIP phones had no network connection. I helped her troubleshoot over the phone, traced the problem to an unpowered switch. Grabbed a power supply out of the spare parts box and headed out the door to the location. 5 mins later she calls me back. She tossed the power supply in the sink, scrubbed it with a wire brush, rinsed and dried it, and it worked just fine. Apparently the contacts on the DC plug were so covered with caked grease and grime from over the years that there was barely any contact with the jack on the switch. 
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Nov 8, 2013 03:46
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KillHour posted:It's really... odd actually. The cameras are pointed at digital signage. The company needs a way to prove that the displays are showing what they're supposed to when they're supposed to, so they are recording all 10,000 displays they have, and having the video compared against what SHOULD be displayed there. They want to store the data all at the same place so they can have people "forensically analyze" the feeds (their words, not mine) in their NOC to make sure everything's correct. It's basically one of the craziest requests I've ever had. This is completely batshit but honestly kind of awesome at the same time.
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Nov 8, 2013 03:46
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Inspector_666 posted:This is completely batshit but honestly kind of awesome at the same time. It just sounds like "worst minimum wage job ever" to me. But yeah, most of my customers are insane.
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Nov 8, 2013 03:47
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I cant imaging doing all that and still selling signs would make them any money. That's a huge loving expense for dumb poo poo.
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Nov 8, 2013 03:49
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KillHour posted:It just sounds like "worst minimum wage job ever" to me. But yeah, most of my customers are insane. yep. That is crazy land. I was more imagining correctional services, Mine, Customs and border inspection or Casino Conglomerate type project. There are civil security firms that will sell you an almost off the shelf solution to do it though. Does it need to be live video? Can you do 1 frame a minute with the option to remotely turn on full video? For that one I would just quote it up and include a suggestion for a closer examination of requirements.
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Nov 8, 2013 03:56
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KennyTheFish posted:Does it need to be live video? Can you do 1 frame a minute with the option to remotely turn on full video? For that one I would just quote it up and include a suggestion for a closer examination of requirements.
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Nov 8, 2013 04:31
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anthonypants posted:Considering the request was for 1080p video, I doubt they'd go for that. They're still in the "fact finding" phase, which means "Someone on the executive board had an idea while they were drunk, so now we have to make it happen somehow."
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Nov 8, 2013 04:34
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If it's digital signage, I can't imagine they'd need full 1080p to make sure that the signs are "showing what they're supposed to show". VGA within appropriate distance should be enough for just about anything other than ridiculous detail. If their requirements are actually for 1080p streaming video of every sign, then their whole idea for the signage is the wrong tool for the initial job.
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Nov 8, 2013 04:38
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AlexDeGruven posted:If it's digital signage, I can't imagine they'd need full 1080p to make sure that the signs are "showing what they're supposed to show". VGA within appropriate distance should be enough for just about anything other than ridiculous detail. The problem is that I have about 3 sentences to go on for this entire project. I sent them a huge list of questions, and I'm waiting to hear back. I'm sure what they ACTUALLY want will be nothing like I was asked for.
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Nov 8, 2013 04:42
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Crowley posted:You can do it with a bit of PowerShell wizardry. Here's a link. To give you an idea of what our Exchange admins are like, here's the current fight we're having with them. We pay for a Cisco appliance to send encrypted emails. Any email with [SECURE] as the first thing in the subject line gets directed to a secure Cisco site that requires the recipient to register and log in, and Cisco provides an Outlook plugin that adds a toolbar button that automatically prepends the [SECURE]. For some reason our recent upgrade to Exchange 2010 broke this plugin, even though I would have thought it was entirely clientside. When we asked the Exchange admins to help troubleshoot, their response was that they don't like the button, and that we should instruct our users to just manually type [SECURE] in. They have yet to provide any reason for why they don't like the button, and now we have to try to convince them users are never going to remember what to type where.
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Nov 8, 2013 05:11
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KillHour posted:The problem is that I have about 3 sentences to go on for this entire project. I sent them a huge list of questions, and I'm waiting to hear back. I'm sure what they ACTUALLY want will be nothing like I was asked for. Most of the digital signage I've had to deal with you should be able to just pull a text string from the signage software. Or just have someone look outside occasionally. I'd love to see the quote though, call it an even 40 million?
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Nov 8, 2013 05:21
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Sirotan posted:
A report came out that basically said that without their Android shakedown (patent trolling) and the billions it makes they wouldn't even turn a profit in multiple business units. So yeah, they are poo poo. How far the mighty have fallen.
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Nov 8, 2013 05:35
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CitizenKain posted:Most of the digital signage I've had to deal with you should be able to just pull a text string from the signage software. Or just have someone look outside occasionally. That's actually scary accurate for what I came up with today.
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Nov 8, 2013 05:59
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KillHour posted:It's really... odd actually. The cameras are pointed at digital signage. The company needs a way to prove that the displays are showing what they're supposed to when they're supposed to, so they are recording all 10,000 displays they have, and having the video compared against what SHOULD be displayed there. They want to store the data all at the same place so they can have people "forensically analyze" the feeds (their words, not mine) in their NOC to make sure everything's correct. It's basically one of the craziest requests I've ever had. So did this come about because one of their execs saw one of those pictures of hacked electronic road signs on the Interweb and is now in a panic about the Chinese taking over their signage network to spread the evils of Communism, or because one of their disgruntled underpaid graphic designers drew Dickbutt on a client's electronic billboard ad?
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Nov 8, 2013 06:15
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:singapore: actually - appears to be a pan-sinitic effort given the "Aizawa" surname, same as MS Taiwan's Silverlight mascot. I assume that there's an amusing pun going on there in Chinese like the Madobe surname that MS Japan uses for all their -tans (Nanami, Claudia, Yuu and Ai - and writing this out in English has finally caused me to cotton on to why the Windows 8 -tans are called Yuu and Ai) notwithoutmyanus posted:A report came out that basically said that without their Android shakedown (patent trolling) and the billions it makes they wouldn't even turn a profit in multiple business units. ookiimarukochan fucked around with this message at 11:30 on Nov 8, 2013 |
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Nov 8, 2013 11:27
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KillHour posted:It's really... odd actually. The cameras are pointed at digital signage. The company needs a way to prove that the displays are showing what they're supposed to when they're supposed to, so they are recording all 10,000 displays they have, and having the video compared against what SHOULD be displayed there. They want to store the data all at the same place so they can have people "forensically analyze" the feeds (their words, not mine) in their NOC to make sure everything's correct. It's basically one of the craziest requests I've ever had. This is so much better than I could have even imagined it to be. All decent digital signage players will log what they've played to prove it to clients, all decent commercial displays can be networked and can notify when events occur such as a change of input, power off, over temp etc. If someone really wants full HD video of every screen then they are going to have the worlds most expensive advertising space.
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Nov 8, 2013 11:54
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ookiimarukochan posted:
Oh drat, I didn't even catch that he was reporting it. I would expect significant bad tidings for MS as long as they fail to compete.
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Nov 8, 2013 13:43
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They'll just keep raising licensing costs like they've been doing and companies will keep paying it.
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Nov 8, 2013 13:45
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KillHour posted:A request came in - storage for 10,000 1080p cameras. Does anyone have a SAN with 16,135.2 TB of usable space and 49.8 Gbps of write speed? After what you've said through the thread, can I hazard a guess and say that you're working on something similar to HADECS - that is, a variable speed limit system for highways/motorways? At least that's what matches in my mind the need for 10,000 cameras at 1080p that needs to be "forensically analysed"...
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Nov 8, 2013 14:12
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Volmarias posted:Nope, sorry, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lD9FAOPBiDk is the best hands down. ... Not bad.
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Knormal posted:.................. The local bank I financed my mortgage through uses one of these.. I don't get the point of it either, well at least how that particular institution implements it anyways.. They used it to send me empty loan documents that had zero personal or confidential information on them whatsoever. It was a major pain in the rear end registering for the thing as they had some obscenely complicated password requirements setup on it. Once I filled the forms out, I attached and sent them back like I would any other attachment... It was the one and only time they used it. Everything else was done via regular attachments.
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stevewm posted:The local bank I financed my mortgage through uses one of these.. I don't get the point of it either, well at least how that particular institution implements it anyways.. There was a push sometime early this year about having any email with documents going through a secure site like that. It was supposed to be a regulation for financial institutions but it seems to have died out pretty much already. I work with many financial institutions daily and it was a real pain at first because everyone uses a different system. Now it seems the only ones that use them are the ones like us that have our own system in place. Most of the big banks have their own and use them MOST of the time.
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stevewm posted:The local bank I financed my mortgage through uses one of these.. I don't get the point of it either, well at least how that particular institution implements it anyways.. Hi, it's me! The SysAdmin for your local bank! Our SOX auditors/consultants have senior management so afraid of their own shadows, that it's become easier to simply make it impossible to do any work, rather than risk leaking any data. Our original email flow worked like this: Any e-mail with *keyword* in the subject would be sent to a secure mail appliance, which forced customers to set up (and manage) their own account/passwords, with expiration and complexity requirements. The appliance also stripped out any HTML/links from e-mails anyway. Any e-mail with *pattern* in the body would be sent to secure mail. Any e-mail from *Application* would be sent to secure mail. In effect, people were getting stuff crammed in that horrible interface time and again for stuff that wasn't even sensitive. Is your phone number written 555-555-5555 in the body of the message? OFF TO SECURE MAIL WITH YOU because it looks like a Canadian social insurance number (xxx-xxx-xxx). Sending a large ZIP file of house pictures? SECURE MAIL. E-mail about "Yoga Class Safety Measures"? SECURE MAIL. I just started an alternative mail flow that allows us to whitelist domains, provided that those domains utilize TLS. We then TLS-require those domains, so if there's no wire encryption, the message bounces. I seriously hate "Email Security" appliances with a passion, so whatever it takes to take them out of the loop (and still be in compliance), I'm all for.
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Westie posted:After what you've said through the thread, can I hazard a guess and say that you're working on something similar to HADECS - that is, a variable speed limit system for highways/motorways? Nope. I just found out it's for a "chain restaurant" so they can make sure their menu videos are playing correctly and switching over for breakfast/lunch. 
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Nov 8, 2013 16:57
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KillHour posted:Nope. I just found out it's for a "chain restaurant" so they can make sure their menu videos are playing correctly and switching over for breakfast/lunch. This is amazing
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Nov 8, 2013 17:06
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I guess they don't have some kind of text overlay implemented as part of the video that a regex would read? I mean, all I know is "you want to solve a problem using regular expressions; you now have two problems" but it's gotta be a lot more cost-, time-, and labor-effective to just hire some guy from Delhi to do this if that's an option.
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KillHour posted:Nope. I just found out it's for a "chain restaurant" so they can make sure their menu videos are playing correctly and switching over for breakfast/lunch. Kurger Bing?
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KillHour posted:Nope. I just found out it's for a "chain restaurant" so they can make sure their menu videos are playing correctly and switching over for breakfast/lunch. I'm lovin it.
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KillHour posted:Nope. I just found out it's for a "chain restaurant" so they can make sure their menu videos are playing correctly and switching over for breakfast/lunch. Wow, if ever "using a nuclear weapon for a fly swatter" was an appropriate analogy. Holy poo poo, the logistics behind trying to do this are just staggering. What about that store that's way out in the boonies and the only internet connection is cellular 3G for the credit card machines? I just can't even wrap my head around the thought processes that came to the conclusion that the initial idea was an even remotely valid solution.
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Nov 8, 2013 17:10
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KillHour posted:Nope. I just found out it's for a "chain restaurant" so they can make sure their menu videos are playing correctly and switching over for breakfast/lunch. What in the motherfuck? Well, it's work creation, I suppose. A completely useless and Heath-Robinson style contraption, but it's still work.
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KillHour posted:Nope. I just found out it's for a "chain restaurant" so they can make sure their menu videos are playing correctly and switching over for breakfast/lunch. Haha, holy poo poo, it gets better with every post. This is the best thing.
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