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Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Preoptopus posted:

Lamest loving summer ever was the year before last when our state had a crazy drought, we couldnt make a fire on a canoe trip on a bare sand bar surrounded by a flowing river. And not cause we were pussies either, god drat DNR was flying over us all night long looking for fires.

Airborne embers can travel for up to a mile in the wind, and still remain hot enough to ignite new fires in dry enough conditions. I'm sorry your canoe trip was ruined by you not being allowed to burn down a large section of forest so you could cook some hot dogs.

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Preoptopus
Aug 25, 2008

Три полоски,
три по три полоски

Powershift posted:

Airborne embers can travel for up to a mile in the wind, and still remain hot enough to ignite new fires in dry enough conditions. I'm sorry your canoe trip was ruined by you not being allowed to burn down a large section of forest so you could cook some hot dogs.

Brats first of all, this is Wisconsin, and yea I was out with a bunch of farmers who although shared my frustration, were grateful for measures taken to ensure their land was not scorched along with everything on it. We just got hammered around a single citronella candle bucket. Good times.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009




:stare:

Viggen
Sep 10, 2010

by XyloJW

That tire is perfectly fine if it is hanging off the back of a custom van!

Aurune
Jun 17, 2006


Pirelli getting into the off road tire market?

EightBit
Jan 7, 2006
I spent money on this line of text just to make the "Stupid Newbie" go away.

Get that mounted on a plaque and up on your wall :black101:

Chinatown
Sep 11, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
Fun Shoe

Those rock crawler tire designs are getting kinda crazy these days.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
10 lugs, massive centerbore, and the edge of the rim doesn't look munched up... I bet that was on a dually axle of a semi truck/trailer/1 ton pickup and blew out, then wasn't noticed for a while, so it beat itself to pieces on the road.

Still pretty impressive, though. Looks like a massive paint/undercoating/rust stripping wheel.

wilfredmerriweathr
Jul 11, 2005
When I was scrolling down and saw that top of that pic my first thought was "oh hey, somebody is posting a picture of a radial engine from an old aircraft."


I stand corrected.

Pomp and Circumcized
Dec 23, 2006

If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

When I was scrolling down and saw that top of that pic my first thought was "oh hey, somebody is posting a picture of a radial engine from an old aircraft."

I saw a gigantic 'fro.

RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer

wilfredmerriweathr posted:

When I was scrolling down and saw that top of that pic my first thought was "oh hey, somebody is posting a picture of a radial engine from an old aircraft."

I did too!

Beach Bum
Jan 13, 2010

xp67 posted:

I saw a gigantic 'fro.



Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011

KUUUMMMMHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Darchangel
Feb 12, 2009

Tell him about the blower!


Pope Ron Paul II posted:

How not to remove a stuck fuel injector; I present to you exhibit A.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwZOTf8vYhE

The fact that they have a tool like that in the first place tells you something.

Pomp and Circumcized
Dec 23, 2006

If there's one thing I love more than GruntKilla420, it's the Queen! Also bacon.

Darchangel posted:

The fact that they have a tool like that in the first place tells you something.

I dread to think what it's doing to the engine mounts. Probably nothing bad.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

Amykinz posted:

Around here it's less of a drought thing and more of a "the air quality around here is starting to kill people and we haven't seen the mountains in years" thing. The whole area has no burn days when there isn't enough breeze to push all the smoke and crap out of the valley, or when there is a fire somewhere else and all the smoke or the smog from the Bay Area gets pushed over the hill and just sits here for weeks.

EDIT TO ADD: The burn ban covers farms/orchards burning trash (or anything), any fireplace/woodstove where you can see smoke coming out of the chimney unless it's below a certain temperature and you have a permit from the county saying that the fire is the ONLY way to heat your home, most camping areas have a camp stove only rule as well.

Air quality is a good point...I still haven't switched from summer to winter mode. We get awesome temperature inversions that trap all pollution for several weeks until we get a big windstorm to push it over the mountains or enough snow to take it down and leave a filthy yellow blanket.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

xp67 posted:

I dread to think what it's doing to the engine mounts. Probably nothing bad.

It's the cylinder head, cam cover, head bolts and million hoses/pipes that concern me. Engine mounts ain't no thang.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Somebody needs to make a slide hammer powered by a 22 shell, like a concrete nail driver.

There's no way anything could ever go wrong with that.

Ferremit
Sep 14, 2007
if I haven't posted about MY LANDCRUISER yet, check my bullbars for kangaroo prints

Das Volk posted:

What's a total fire ban day?

Effort Post ahoy!

As everyone knows, Australia is a highly flammable landscape that enjoys BBQ'ing its residents on a semi regular basis (see Cat Terrist). Once you combine our oil laden endemic vegetation, dry conditions and the fact we have a loving huge desert in the center of the country, the whole place is an inferno waiting to go off. Because of this, they've established fire danger seasons- Generally Sept-march in the southern states, and March- Sept in the northern part of the country. Why the difference? The northern part of the country is a tropical environment and as such has its wet season during the southern summer, and when you get meters of rain a week, your not going to get a fire to run.

In order to put some logic into "Shits gonna burn bro" the clever boffins in the CSIRO developed the fire danger rating, and the MacArthur fire danger meters. Fortunately, its one of the few things that Australia can agree on, so its been standardised across all states- This ones from Queensland, but its the same for NSW, Victoria, South Aus, Tas etc.



Basically, Anything above a High fire danger rating makes it very difficult to control a bushfire, and above an FFDI of 50 is deemed "Uncontrollable" and its not far off the fact.

Except there's two different Scales for Fire danger- Forest Fire Danger, and Grass Fire Danger, since both present a different threat- Forest fires are huge uncontrollable beasts, but may only move 800-1000m per hour, Grass fires are a lot less intense, but can move at 50+km/hr with the wind driving them, Grass is also a lot easier to ignite than a forest too.

In order to calculate the FFDI and GFDI, a clever lad by the name of MacArthur in the 60's developed a pair of calculators- One for FFDI, One for GFDI.


Forest fire calculator Mk5


Grass fire calculator

Both use similar data to work out the FDI of the day, as well as predicted rates of spread and spotting distance- Temp, Humidity, Wind Speed, Fuel loads and Drought Factor (Drought Factor is a prediction of the amount of fine fuels avaliable for the initial fire fronts passage, its a bit of an interesting one to define)

For example - Feb 7th, 2009 in Victoria

Temp: 40 degrees c
Humidity: 7%
Wind Speeds: 50kph
Fuel Loads: 25+ tonnes per hectare
Drought Factor: 10
Slope: 20 degrees (average)

FFDI: 121 (Catastrophic)
Flame Heights: 51 meters
Spotting distance: 11.79km
Rate of spread: 14.4km/hr


In other words, Shithouse, Not only is the fire moving at 15Kph through forest, but its throwing spot fires 12kms ahead of itself.

So pretty much any day during the fire danger season, the Bureau of Meteorology releases a prediction of maximum FFDI and GFDI for the following day based on their weather forecast. If either the FFDI or the GFDI prediction exceeds 50, then the fire authority in the state will make the decision to call a total fire ban for fire danger districts affected. Once a ToBan has been called, it restricts what you can do- you cant light any fire outdoors, including a gas one) unless its a BBQ within a certain distance of a dwelling with a hose on standby, you cant use any machinery that could start a fire (brushcutters, harvesters, slashers on tractors etc) and if you get busted doing something properly stupid like throwing a lit ciggy butt out of a car window its up to a $5K fine or a conviction.

Its pretty serious, cos the consequences of NOT following the restrictions on a bad fire day can be quite severe. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Saturday_bushfires

Don Baylor
Oct 24, 2005

I kind of wish I could drive with that shredded Fro tire on the back of my passport, it already looks like crap and uninsured so it would be a nice addition.

dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.

Ferremit posted:

Effort Post ahoy!



While we don't have quite the same level of risk over in New Zealand rural fires are still a very big deal which is why you see so many of these signs:

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I saw one of those once in the Waikato and it had a giant pot leaf sprayed on it and under 'keep it green' it said 'I WILL BRO'

Opensourcepirate
Aug 1, 2004

Except Wednesdays
I guess this is a good time to post this video of fires in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPpOXH0ADSg&t=600s

I've linked it to start 10 minutes in, which is about 2 minutes before it turns into hell on Earth.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Opensourcepirate posted:

I guess this is a good time to post this video of fires in Australia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPpOXH0ADSg&t=600s

I've linked it to start 10 minutes in, which is about 2 minutes before it turns into hell on Earth.

This is probably an idiot thing to ask, but if this poo poo happens basically every year, why aren't there a system of moats or something that can be flooded to contain it? Or alternatively, why not just bulldoze big swathes of forest?

The low countries went to the trouble of building dykes to contain flooding because it happens reasonably often, I don't see why something like that can't be done here.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

Slavvy posted:

This is probably an idiot thing to ask, but if this poo poo happens basically every year, why aren't there a system of moats or something that can be flooded to contain it? Or alternatively, why not just bulldoze big swathes of forest?

The low countries went to the trouble of building dykes to contain flooding because it happens reasonably often, I don't see why something like that can't be done here.

Because it doesn't work.

Fire can jump kilometres at a time. You only need to think warm thoughts near grass before it becomes an inferno too.

Where I live we have kilometres of rice paddies in all directions but we're still not safe. I've also seen this poo poo go down up close and personal having lived around the great divide, blue mountains etc.
Nothing can just stop fire dead. Nothing.. Even with firebreaks etc. There's still a hell of a lot going down to just keep it contained.

Hell on earth is an apt description.

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007

Not too stupid
Well the moats would be useless since any fire to be concerned about can jump for miles, let alone a couple hundred feet.

Bulldozing the forest isn't realistic beyond fire breaks, which...see above. Plus you would get the environmentally concerned, and most sane people, voting against you in a heartbeat with a clearcutting strategy.

We deal with these in San Diego every half decade or so, but no where near the same scale. Most of our fatalities comes from people who either don't know or refuse to evacuate. People get weird when they are ordered to leave, in the Witch Creek fire it was less than a mile from where I live, and my neighbors refused to go. We just took off for Pendleton since we can get on base, basically made a mini vacation out of it, where we just watched our neighbors houses burn :v:.

Splizwarf
Jun 15, 2007
It's like there's a soup can in front of me!
Seems like building homes into artificial hills would be a practical solution, do you see much of that?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Alright, then shouldn't there be like a national-guard style reserve of firefighters? Surely keeping that on the books would be cheaper than recovering from millions of dollars of damage constantly.

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy

Slavvy posted:

Alright, then shouldn't there be like a national-guard style reserve of firefighters? Surely keeping that on the books would be cheaper than recovering from millions of dollars of damage constantly.

Hell no! What is this socialist nonsense? What we really need to do is fire all of the firefighters and then come up with a plan to outsource it to my mates.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

Slavvy posted:

Alright, then shouldn't there be like a national-guard style reserve of firefighters? Surely keeping that on the books would be cheaper than recovering from millions of dollars of damage constantly.

I thought we kind of already had that with the volunteer fire fighters under whatever name each state calls them. Even our PM is one apparently which seems a little hypocritical but whatever.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.

Measly Twerp posted:

Hell no! What is this socialist nonsense? What we really need to do is fire all of the firefighters and then come up with a plan to outsource it to my mates.

Given the ranting from the AU AI contingent during the elections I'm pretty sure the current government will try to fight the fires by piling boat people on them.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Splizwarf posted:

Seems like building homes into artificial hills would be a practical solution, do you see much of that?

There's a town in Australia where people live in caves to save on air conditioning costs:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coober_Pedy

Someone decided it was practical, if not for the same reason you suggested it.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

kastein posted:

Given the ranting from the AU AI contingent during the elections I'm pretty sure the current government will try to fight the fires by piling boat people on them.

Don't give them ideas.

Anarchist Mae
Nov 5, 2009

by Reene
Lipstick Apathy
I've always wanted to build down, instead of build up. Just somewhere other than Coober Pedy.

amenenema
Feb 10, 2003

It's a fire-dependent ecosystem. It's like living along Mississippi floodplains. Trying to stop it from burning only makes it a billion times worse when it does go up. The sane risk-reduction method would actually be prescribed fire operations.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Measly Twerp posted:

I've always wanted to build down, instead of build up. Just somewhere other than Coober Pedy.

In regards to building down, is there a spider table in Australia, like there's a water table here in South Florida

I would just imagine that any hole you dug would immediately fill with venomous local fauna.

General_Failure
Apr 17, 2005

MrYenko posted:

In regards to building down, is there a spider table in Australia, like there's a water table here in South Florida

I would just imagine that any hole you dug would immediately fill with venomous local fauna.

It's usually ants. Spiders and other critters are just a bonus!

Somewhat Heroic
Oct 11, 2007

(Insert Mad Max related text)



MrYenko posted:

In regards to building down, is there a spider table in Australia, like there's a water table here in South Florida

I would just imagine that any hole you dug would immediately fill with venomous local fauna.

Spiders are one thing, but the snakes are another. I believe in Tasmania there are only 3 types or snakes found on the island. The beauty of it is if you're bit there's no need to worry about finding out if it is venomous or not (they all are). The concern if it is the one that isn't deadly.

randomidiot
May 12, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 11 years!)

Measly Twerp posted:

Hell no! What is this socialist nonsense? What we really need to do is fire all of the firefighters and then come up with a plan to outsource it to my mates.

General_Failure posted:

I thought we kind of already had that with the volunteer fire fighters under whatever name each state calls them. Even our PM is one apparently which seems a little hypocritical but whatever.


I'm just gonna drop this here

This may give you an idea of how hosed that particular county is

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Coasterphreak
May 29, 2007
I like cookies.

It's always Maricopa County.

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