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Voltage posted:Yes it comes in a diesel, but the VW is in a different realm quality/interior/handling/everything wise Yeah, not really. Unless you consider the standard VW rattletrap interior a positive.
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You're definitely right about the sedan, it's junk - but the sportwagen is a completely different car. I drove the cruze and the interior was a terrible place to be.
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Voltage posted:You're definitely right about the sedan, it's junk - but the sportwagen is a completely different car. I drove the cruze and the interior was a terrible place to be. I have a 2013 Golf TDI. So, the same interior quality as the sportwagen. Rattles galore.
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Voltage posted:You're definitely right about the sedan, it's junk - but the sportwagen is a completely different car. I drove the cruze and the interior was a terrible place to be. I've said this recently, but I think it was in another thread, and since it's relevant again: The US Jetta sedan and the JSW are two different cars. The JSW is still riding on a MkV chassis underneath, not the decontented MkVI Jetta that is generally terrible.
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Voltage posted:Yes it comes in a diesel, but the VW is in a different realm quality/interior/handling/everything wise - reliability wise I have no idea. Personally I would get the Mazda 6 when the diesel is available. Have you sat in the newer NA-market VWs?
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Guinness posted:BMW sells the 328d sedan and wagon in the US. The sedan you can get RWD or AWD, while the wagon is AWD only. RWD claims 45mpg, AWD claims 43mpg (highway, obviously). EnergizerFellow fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Nov 12, 2013 |
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Throatwarbler posted:Well you did just use your tax dollars to pay for a company that now refuses to make cars that you want. How do you feel about that? What a slap in the face oRenj9 posted:several year old inventory after the 2008 fiasco and I doubt they were very happy about it. If you're talking about the G8, the entire brand was abolished and the fate of the parent company was shaky (not to mention even more macro economic factors.) That's going to make any car 100x as radioactive as it probably should be. I mean, you can't look at Saab going down and blame that on the leftover cars being that bahahaha ok I can't even pull that off
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Speaking of Saab... http://saab.bluegrassauto.com/ And the last time I was there, they really did have that many Saab 9-3s sitting on their lot.
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Manual SS is probably the worst of the "we're gonna buy it I swear!" Enthusiast bullshit lines that would never come to pass so good for GM for not making the SS available in manual. Parts proliferation alone on a couple hundred cars a year absolutely destroys the business case.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Manual SS is probably the worst of the "we're gonna buy it I swear!" Enthusiast bullshit lines that would never come to pass so good for GM for not making the SS available in manual. Parts proliferation alone on a couple hundred cars a year absolutely destroys the business case. Don't forget, it also has to be AWD because reasons.
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Ineptus Mechanicus posted:Don't forget, it also has to be AWD because reasons. AWD would make more business sense than a manual transmission, significant segments of wealthy car buyers in the US live in climates where they think AWD is a necessity. Luckily the Holden Commodore platform is physically incapable of incorporating AWD (there has never been one) because you know, it's Australian. So heck of a job there GM.
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Coredump posted:Can one of these small rwd sportscars ever have more than 200 whp? One can only hope. https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/  Is anyone else excited for the 2015 Genesis sedan? I want to see some actual pictures, not just renderings. KillHour fucked around with this message at 05:08 on Nov 13, 2013 |
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KillHour posted:https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/  Cream_Filling posted:Oh, also just saw this:
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KillHour posted:https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/ It dropped today.  http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2015-hyundai-genesis-spy-shots/#photo-1565220/
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Throatwarbler posted:Luckily the Holden Commodore platform is physically incapable of incorporating AWD (there has never been one) because you know, it's Australian. So heck of a job there GM. There were AWD Commodores on the previous platform but they weren't very good sellers due to extreme thirst and the comparatively unwieldy wagon body (much longer than an SUV like the Territory)
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Throatwarbler posted:It dropped today. God, that's a hot car. Why couldn't they make the Equus look like that? Edit: Do the wheels seem a little smaller than in the renderings?
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fknlo posted:I have a 2013 Golf TDI. So, the same interior quality as the sportwagen. Rattles galore. Oh, good. I thought it was just me. My 2011 Golf TDI rattles like crazy too.
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Snowdens Secret posted:If you're talking about the G8, the entire brand was abolished and the fate of the parent company was shaky (not to mention even more macro economic factors.) That's going to make any car 100x as radioactive as it probably should be. I mean, you can't look at Saab going down and blame that on the leftover cars being that bahahaha ok I can't even pull that off I mean in general, a lot of dealerships had excess inventory forced upon them by the big three during the economic meltdown. Pontiac dealers definitely had it bad though, you could buy a brand new 2008 Solstice in like 2011 and were, at one point, saddled with a nearly two years supply of G3s.
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blk posted:I live in an area of the US with a lot of temporary and well-heeled reaidents from mainland China - they account for 100% of 5 GT owners I see on the road. I'm curious what its numbers in China are if its sold there, which I assume it is. It's sold there, but I only ever saw LWB 7 and 5 series in China. Still stumped.
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Throatwarbler posted:It dropped today. Pinching the Bentley winged logo there I see.
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The new Genesis looks like some kind of Saints Row or GTA knockoff car.
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AdmiralViscen posted:The new Genesis looks like some kind of Saints Row or GTA knockoff car. The genesis sedan has been like this for a while now. Some sort of half way luxury, decent looking but inspired by a lot of other things in the segment extremely clearly(I.e the previous generations grill being almost identical to a Benzs)
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jediguy posted:It's sold there, but I only ever saw LWB 7 and 5 series in China. Still stumped. A lot of rich people in china don't even know how to drive. LWB models are popular because most people who buy BMWs have drivers.
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KillHour posted:https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/ Have you been in or driven a Genesis Coupe? The thing is a pony car. Pony cars are awesome and there's nothing wrong with that, but it weighs pretty much exactly the same as a Mustang and drives similarly too. And then if we're including things of that weight and size as a "small RWD sportscar" then you can talk about the Mustang GT and Boss 302.
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KillHour posted:https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis-coupe/ That's a G35 clone with size and weight to match. Not the same size range as an old 240, current Miata or the BRZ/FRS clones.
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Jeez, you guys are picky. Better? Edit: I'm not sure if this is a comedy option or not: http://www.aspidcars.com/eng/ KillHour fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Nov 13, 2013 |
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Lincoln MKC. Surprisingly good looking inside and out, and the first application I think of the 2.3l turbo engine? http://www.lincoln.com/crossovers/mkc/reveal/?hptid=bb-2169i-mkc       The best implementation of the Lincoln design language yet, and the Interior is clean and intuitive, almost like a Volvo. EDIT: Better pics Throatwarbler fucked around with this message at 16:56 on Nov 13, 2013 |
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Strange how it's a Ford vehicle. If you'd shown me a debadged version, I could have sworn that would be an Opel, both inside and out but mostly that interior. That steering wheel looks like the Insignia/9-5s but juuuust a little different.
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The grille looks less uglified compared to some of the other Lincoln models. Actually looks like a luxury car, and looks like they're trying to give the Lincoln badge a set of wings.
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That's an interesting way to shift gears.
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It's like one of those push button GAZs or an early Torqueflite. Only a matter of time before we have touchscreen UIs emulating physical buttons emulating a column shifter.
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I'd still get the ford escape version, which even fully loaded will be thousands less than MKC. Same deal with the MKS and Fusion. I can't wait to see that 2.3T in the new Mustang SVO. I wish ford would make a RWD car smaller than the mustang, maybe a new XR4Ti/Sierra type thingy? I love ford interiors and their new ecoboost motors, and it would be nice to have a little sports car smaller than the Mustang.
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Holy gently caress, actual buttons on the center stack? No capacitive touch dimples or sliders that only respond to inputs every other time.
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I actually like the interior design on that, at least in pictures. Clean and straightforward and nothing terribly garish. Plus buttons. I like buttons. The exterior is eh but I think all crossovers/SUVs are eh. It's not ugly, just not really exciting either.
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Lincoln: Going the full Cylon.
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That's the first application I've seen in which Lincoln's now-standard grille treatment actually works.
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The Midniter posted:That's the first application I've seen in which Lincoln's now-standard grille treatment actually works. Probably sounds silly, but I think the horizontal lines work better than vertical. Everything that still uses the vertical grill lines look like buck-toothed idiots, but the horizontal lines look more BMW (in a good way). e: which is ironic considering BMW uses vertical lines 
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Why dont more companies use non-gloss textured wood? That actually looks fantastic, and I hate normal wood trim.
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It looks nice and all, but I'm sorry. An SUV will never feel luxurious to me. Utility is in the name, and even Land Rovers make me feel like I'm working when I drive them. Edit: The center console makes it look like the cockpit of a spaceship. KillHour fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Nov 14, 2013 |
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Throatwarbler posted:
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