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chocolateTHUNDER posted:The Touchsmart 11 wasn't a Chromebook, though That's why I said maybe someone fat-fingered it when they removed what they though was the 11" Chromebook from their website
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If you want a BF type deal check out the lenovo outlet website first thing Monday mornings when the new batch of refurbs are listed. My Buddy got a scratch and dent Yoga i5 for under $500 , the scratch on the bottom was so light he had to point it out to me in direct lighting. YMMV.
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evol262 posted:You should buy a $30 Intel wifi adapter instead. Weight: lighter is better, but not a deal breaker. Battery life: I currently rock a 9 cell that gets me 8-10 hours. Battery life is pretty important for when I travel. Intended usage: primarily work (Office, R, GeoDa, ArcGIS) with some personal use. An i5 or better processor with at least 4 gb of RAM should meet my needs for the foreseeable future.
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Nov 14, 2013 22:44
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Seriously looking at getting a Yoga 2 Pro - if you bought it when it came out and have used it every day - are you still happy with the purchase? or are there one or two infuriating things about it that drive you mental?
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Here's what a friend of mine had to say about his. He replaced a T62, I think. I'd say I average about 8 hours battery life if I'm using it the entire time, keeping screen brightness pretty high and with wifi on. I know it could be better, but I might have one or two days a year where I would have a use for more than 8 hours a day, and on those days I doubt I wouldn't come across an outlet. It's really more of a convenience thing to not have to carry the charger with you, I guess. I'm happy with everything on the yoga except wifi. For some odd reason the factory wifi drivers would not connect to my WAP unless I was like 5 feet from it. I mean down in my office it still said it had plenty of signal strength, but it would always fail to connect with no reason given. So I uinstalled the intel proset wireless software and drivers and it started working fine. A couple days ago I noticed they released a new wireless software package from intel called 'kona' (not sure what that means to intel). I installed it and found it actually improved my wifi signal strength... like I get more range now. And it connects fine too.... until the driver crashes completely and in device manager the wifi card claims it is failing to start. Rebooting fixes it. Disabling and re-enabling the wifi card doesn't, though. So the updated software fixed the inability to connect but now causes my wireless card to stop working after a little while. I'm contemplating calling lenovo support about it but then the other part of me realizes I can just uninstall the intel software and use windows 8.1 as my wifi controller and it works fine, and there's probably lots of other people with the same problem, so I'll just wait for another software update to come out. On that topic, one annoying thing about this yoga is there's no driver/software updater like Thinkvantage on the Thinkpads or Dell Client Update on Optiplexes and such. It's like an intentional omission on their part to try to make their 'business class' notebooks seem more special.
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Yeah I was afraid someone was going to post a glowing review like that. Thanks.
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V for Vegas posted:Yeah I was afraid someone was going to post a glowing review like that. Thanks. FWIW I haven't had a single wifi issue to date with my Y2P.
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V for Vegas posted:Seriously looking at getting a Yoga 2 Pro - if you bought it when it came out and have used it every day - are you still happy with the purchase? or are there one or two infuriating things about it that drive you mental? I haven't had any wifi issues but I live in a small apartment and am never very far from my access point. I really like mine but I find the size of the right shift button to be pretty annoying. I often hit the up arrow when trying to hit shift. This is just a minor annoyance. I should note: I run my Y2Pro at 1600*900 resolution because a number of programs that I rely on don't scale properly enough to be usable at 3200*1800. Running at half the vertical and horizontal resolution ensures that there isn't any blurring associated with running a non-native resolution, and you don't really lose any screen space versus 3200*1800 at 200% DPI scaling. I'm kind of bummed that I can't use the full resolution of the display, but 1600*900 is very adequate on a display this size and I think the laptop is worth it even if you never run it at full resolution.
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Dell XPS 13 with Haswell went on sale in Canada and US starting today. http://www.dell.com/us/p/xps-13-9333/pd listed with an estimated ship date: 12/13/2013 ... yeah Are there comparable discounts for Dells like there are with Lenovo? Because the Yoga 2 Pro is looking like a way better value when I go through the Lenovo Friends & Family discount thing. edit - seriously, even without the discount, the Yoga 2 Pro is cheaper for the same specs + the QHD screen (admittedly a negative and a positive) + convertible aspect. What does the XPS 13 have over it? Build quality? Battery? Shofixti fucked around with this message at 00:27 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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The Thinkpad Yoga appears to be for sale on the Australian Lenovo site. No sign of the Yoga 2 yet, though. I'm starting to suspect they're just not sure how to slot a single non-Thinkpad laptop onto their website. Too much effort, damnit. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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Nov 15, 2013 00:17
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The ThinkPad yoga is also listed on newegg. Lenovo pushed back my yoga 2 order again, now with an est ship date of 12/24.
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Nov 15, 2013 00:28
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:FWIW I haven't had a single wifi issue to date with my Y2P. I think my post came off as being sarcastic when it wasn't. Definitely looking to pick up one of the orange ones.
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Nov 15, 2013 00:29
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Process this information: The Thinkpad Edge E545 will apparently bring back physical trackpoint buttons to the E-series: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/e-series/
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QuarkJets posted:Yes, and yes. I would recommend trying to get your hands on an OEM Windows Install disc (or USB stick) and just starting fresh, though Well, since the computer comes with a license, can i just d/l such a thing from MS?
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tijag posted:Well, since the computer comes with a license, can i just d/l such a thing from MS? Usually no. Microsoft only lets you download Windows 8 through their launcher/updater thing, and it doesn't accept OEM keys.
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tijag posted:Well, since the computer comes with a license, can i just d/l such a thing from MS? If you are one of Microsoft's special paid subscribers, then you can download an ISO, yes. Otherwise, you'll have to bit torrent it or something.
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dyne posted:The ThinkPad yoga is also listed on newegg. I just canceled my Lenovo order and switched to Best Buy, got the laptop in under a week for very nearly the same price. I'd recommend it!
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RVProfootballer posted:I just canceled my Lenovo order and switched to Best Buy, got the laptop in under a week for very nearly the same price. I'd recommend it! For real? Even including the discount from the B&N Link?
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RVProfootballer posted:I just canceled my Lenovo order and switched to Best Buy, got the laptop in under a week for very nearly the same price. I'd recommend it! It looks like the same config (8gb and 256gb) is $1200 at bestbuy, which is $120 more than from the b&n Lenovo dealie
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dyne posted:It looks like the same config (8gb and 256gb) is $1200 at bestbuy, which is $120 more than from the b&n Lenovo dealie Doesn't BB price match though?
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Convinced my boss to buy a Yoga 2 Pro and goddamn that thing will NOT connect to our wifi network. It will connect to any other network around, but it just can't get an IP on our network at all. I spent about 4 hours on it today doing everything I could including a complete recovery and fresh boot, but nada. Manually entering an IP works, but is not a viable solution for a traveling non tech savvy person. (No other machines have trouble connecting to our wifi routers)
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BonoMan posted:Convinced my boss to buy a Yoga 2 Pro and goddamn that thing will NOT connect to our wifi network. It will connect to any other network around, but it just can't get an IP on our network at all. I spent about 4 hours on it today doing everything I could including a complete recovery and fresh boot, but nada. Something about Windows 8 acts really squirrelly with some networks. I can't pin it down, but on both of my machines running Windows 8, they can't connect to my school wifi. However, worked fine in Windows 7 before the upgrade and my phone connects just fine.
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WHERE MY HAT IS AT posted:Doesn't BB price match though? They probably won't price match a site that requires a login/password in order for the deal to be displayed
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shrughes posted:Process this information: The Thinkpad Edge E545 will apparently bring back physical trackpoint buttons to the E-series: http://shop.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/e-series/ Nice. I'd get that if it weren't for the off-center keyboard. I know some people like or need the numpad, but I don't.
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BonoMan posted:Convinced my boss to buy a Yoga 2 Pro and goddamn that thing will NOT connect to our wifi network. It will connect to any other network around, but it just can't get an IP on our network at all. I spent about 4 hours on it today doing everything I could including a complete recovery and fresh boot, but nada. I'm using the Intel Centrino Advanced card, and it had the same reaction to my college's wifi network. Their ITS guy had to do two things to get my laptop working: He added an encryption standard WP*something, not WPA2, and he removed Intel's wireless drivers. My card reverted to Window's drivers, and that fixed it. As far as the encryption standard, he explained that Windows stopped including it in 8.1, and it was the specific method used by my school. As far as the drivers, he said that I wouldn't be able to do more "advanced" wireless work with the Windows default drivers. When I pressed him, he said "things like Linux and hacking." Not my cup of tea, but if that means anything to you... Otherwise, the Win drivers work very nicely with the card, and I am experiencing no problems thus far. Hope this helps.
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P.N.T.M. posted:I'm using the Intel Centrino Advanced card, and it had the same reaction to my college's wifi network. Their ITS guy had to do two things to get my laptop working: He added an encryption standard WP*something, not WPA2, and he removed Intel's wireless drivers. My card reverted to Window's drivers, and that fixed it. Thanks! I'll try those tomorrow.
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dyne posted:It looks like the same config (8gb and 256gb) is $1200 at bestbuy, which is $120 more than from the b&n Lenovo dealie Best Buy is i7, that Lenovo is i5 (right?). Also if you have an .edu email, you can get a $50 coupon for Best Buy. Since I do have one, it was i5, $1080, and an indeterminate wait time from Lenovo, vs. i7, $1150, and shipped within 3 days from Best Buy. Tax charged by both, shipping free from both. Your call on if it's worth it, but I was getting kind of fed up with the wait and will actually probably benefit from the i7.
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From the OP:quote:Unless you're in the military or work on an oil rig your use case does not represent a good case for a gaming laptop. My Asus G73 is three and a half years old now, and it isn't keeping up with games like it used to. I am in the military, and I end up moving around quite a bit in my job, so I usually end up dropping quite a bit on my gaming laptop. I was directed here from the Gaming PC thread, but to be completely honest I am not well-versed in the magics that make these things work. I know basic terms, and I can upgrade my RAM (I think) but taking a look at the mass of info on the OP got me nowhere. Also, I tried reading the Wiki page on Haswell microarchitecture, and I think my brain melted a bit. I'm thinking of getting one after the Holiday rush, having it shipped home and moving my stuff over once I get back from my current overseas stint. Aside from this digging a hole in my funds (which I am prepared for), anything else I should know about?
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Yoga 2 Pro has a new BIOS and Energy Manager, to try and alleviate some of the yellow issues: http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS035004 I installed it this morning before work, but didn't get a chance to check it out yet. When it first rebooted after installing the new BIOS, it hung at a black screen with the keyboard backlight on, but a hard reboot fixed that up right away. Looks like one other person on the Lenovo forums saw the same behavior, so I figured I'd mention it. e: and it actually looks like Lenovo mentioned that in the documentation: "If you find your computer is shut down with keyboard backlight on, you can keep press the power button longer than 8S and press the power button again to start the computer. The BIOS should be installed properly."
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QuarkJets posted:If you are one of Microsoft's special paid subscribers, then you can download an ISO, yes. Otherwise, you'll have to bit torrent it or something. So I bittorrent an ISO or whatever, and then use the license/serial number I have with my computer and i'll be all good to go? Sorry, never done this before. I always just build a computer and buy a Windows install and install from the DVD. Can't really do that with a laptop.
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Anyone having issues with games on their Yoga 2? However in other news yesterday I tried to play a 3D game on it for the first time. It crashed hard within 5-30 seconds of any 3D game being played. I mean like just powers off hard with no warning. I called Lenovo and the dipshit tech support guy tried to tell me my laptop wasn't designed to play high end 3d games and it was powering off to prevent itself from overheating. I told him if I experienced a low frame rate that would be one thing, but no properly designed laptop should just shut off without warning any time you try to play a 3d game. He said I needed to find a game that listed minimum requirements well within the hd4400's capabilities so I loaded up half life 2 on low quality settings which the integrated graphics should be able to run without even trying. It stuttered off and on for a couple minutes and then crashed. He then tried to tell me the problem was I had a virus, and be could tell because my desktop.ini files were visible. I explained to him that was because I had windows explorer set to show hidden/OS files. He then said it was a software problem with steam, so I went and loaded up passmark outside of steam and it still crashed. This guy was doing everything he could to shift blame to the obvious answer that it was a hardware problem. I mean what would I have done if I didn't know enough to disprove his excuses? Ridiculous. Anyhow he then asked me to do a full factory restore and call back in if it still crashed after that. I agreed and ran the restore last night but haven't tried a game yet to see if it still crashed, and I'll be shocked if it doesn't.
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Bob Morales posted:Anyone having issues with games on their Yoga 2? I don't actually play games, but I'll see if I have problems in Windows/Linux.
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Sir Bobert Fishbone posted:Yoga 2 Pro has a new BIOS and Energy Manager, to try and alleviate some of the yellow issues: I'm glad you posted this since it happened to me and if I hadn't read this post I might have freaked out. Did you notice that your display brightness is MUCH lower after the bios update?
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evol262 posted:I don't actually play games, but I'll see if I have problems in Windows/Linux. It's chugging through whatever gamer crap is cool these days, albeit sort of a slideshow at times, without any thermal issues that I'm noticing. I guess I'll post the benchmark results whenever 3dmark finishes.
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So far nothing has fixed the weird Yoga 2 WiFi issue (which appears to be widespread). Someone suggested downloading the november wifi drivers here. I went to download them and they are 260 megs. Two hundred and sixty loving megs for a wifi driver???
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BonoMan posted:So far  Results here. No crashes. evol262 fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Nov 15, 2013 |
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evol262 posted:
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BonoMan posted:Did you reply to the wrong person? No. The 3dmark stuff is for Bob Morales, but I quoted you to edit your wifi quote. It works perfectly under Linux. 99% odds it's some Windows driver problem. Also, uninstall the drat drivers and let Windows use its drivers instead, which is the recommended fix for every "my OEM bullshit sucks out of box" problem.
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Naffer posted:I'm glad you posted this since it happened to me and if I hadn't read this post I might have freaked out. Yep, brightness definitely lower, though I'm happy as I thought the minimum brightness below was a little too bright.
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tijag posted:So I bittorrent an ISO or whatever, and then use the license/serial number I have with my computer and i'll be all good to go? Sorry, never done this before. I always just build a computer and buy a Windows install and install from the DVD. Can't really do that with a laptop. The nice thing is that you won't have to enter the license/serial number at all, Windows 8 will pull it directly from the BIOS settings, so all you need to do is start the installer. The not so nice thing is that it's easy to get the wrong ISO, in which case your key won't work. I'm not sure whether talking about which file is the right ISO is  or not
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