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Yeast Confection
Oct 7, 2005

rap music posted:

I don't know too much about your specific build but if you aren't running targeted wells, I really like Hydromancy on both weapon sets and chill duration runes on the armor (+60% duration total).

This lets you keep people snared up and trapped inside of your wells, and works especially well on the nodes in sPVP.

My wells are ground targetable because I prefer to keep my distance, but that gives me some ideas. Maybe stick a sigil for chilling on my staff and cripple on axe/scepter to make it a little easier to plant wells.

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gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:
For not dying, I'd actually recommend zerker gear on ele over anything with toughness. Toughness, for some reason, makes mobs hate you and target you first. You're better off being more fragile, but less likely to be targeted.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




gandlethorpe posted:

For not dying, I'd actually recommend zerker gear on ele over anything with toughness. Toughness, for some reason, makes mobs hate you and target you first. You're better off being more fragile, but less likely to be targeted.

Disagree. As Word Eater saw yesterday in the tower when we were duoing it, I was basically invincible, we would have wiped repeatedly and had to restart at the bottom. I couldn't have pulled that poo poo with zerker gear. You guys laugh at soldier gear but the survivability it gives you is insane.

Mosthated
Dec 15, 2012
Post from Devon Carter today regarding WXP:

I’m going to lock this post for 2 reasons. 1) This topic has been discussed ad infinitum and we have given our reasons for the system as it currently exists. 2) There will be more information about changes to the Wxp system in the next few weeks.
We appreciate the passion you all have for WvW and GW2 and we are doing what we can to align the systems in the game with our core philosophy. We completely agree that there is an inherent lack of alt-friendliness with the system as it is currently set up, which is why we are working on making changes to it. As we have more information to announce about those changes, we will share it with you all.


Tl;dr: We are working on making the Wxp system more alt-friendly and we will have more to share in the coming weeks.

ItBurns
Jul 24, 2007
Account-bound drops of liquid WXP incoming.

Edit: Is that already a thing?

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




Godddammit Anet just make WvW ranks account-wide. It's not loving rocket science. Make ranks take longer to get or something.

Mosthated
Dec 15, 2012

ItBurns posted:

Account-bound drops of liquid WXP incoming.

Edit: Is that already a thing?

Yes but i don't believe it has anything to do with the liquid drops. Most are thinking that if you get a level on one toon, you get partial on your alts. Really who knows though. As Arus said its not rocket science.

sound_again
Jun 19, 2012
The wallet was one of the best things they ever did and they should implement similar ideas everywhere.

If they made the infinite use gathering tools not just account-wide but also automatically available to every character, they'd be no-brainer purchases for a ton of people.

Secret Sweater
Oct 17, 2005
dup

Lazy Programming posted:

Use hydromancy instead of ice for your sigil. It has a shorter cooldown, longer duration, and on swap sigils proc on kit/attunement swaps for classes that only have 1 weapon.

With my playstyle you'd miss a lot of ice procs. I dropped bomb kit, so I'm never in the poo poo if I don't want to be (often). For icing people all up in my poo poo, the aoe chill on heal/ice nades have me covered. But I guess it just depends on how you roll.

As a note, I wouldn't use it for WvW. Perplexity is the obvious hoice there, but unavailable in spvp.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
So I just got the game this week on sale, any tips for starting out? How's crafting like? Mandatory for getting decent gear or can you just buy what you need? And I understand most of the gear grinding is for cosmetics and not for getting stats?

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

sound_again posted:

The wallet was one of the best things they ever did and they should implement similar ideas everywhere.

If they made the infinite use gathering tools not just account-wide but also automatically available to every character, they'd be no-brainer purchases for a ton of people.

I've already purchased a single one of the picks, and if a less awful axe/sickle comes out I'll buy a single one of them too. All in the hopes that they someday get made account-wide.

Ghostpilot
Jun 22, 2007

"As a rule, I never touch anything more sophisticated and delicate than myself."

bamhand posted:

So I just got the game this week on sale, any tips for starting out? How's crafting like? Mandatory for getting decent gear or can you just buy what you need? And I understand most of the gear grinding is for cosmetics and not for getting stats?

Really, crafting is just a way of turning gold / materials into exp and perhaps an occasional bit of convenience. Aside from that, get into one of the goon guilds for company and don't worry about spending skill points or trait points: you'll get more skill points than you'll ever know what to do with and trait points are a trivial cost to reset (scaling with level until 80, where it's a mere 3.5 silver).

BobTheJanitor
Jun 28, 2003

SeaTard posted:

I've already purchased a single one of the picks, and if a less awful axe/sickle comes out I'll buy a single one of them too. All in the hopes that they someday get made account-wide.

I've bought the pick and sickle now, but it's the new ones so they look stupid. But I don't really care, I just wanted the infinite use. I used gold to buy gems for them, so they're ridiculously overpriced and I'll have to use each one a few billion times to break even. They need to release another infinite axe already. I thought they were doing some Halloween theme so I figured they'd have an axe out before the end of last month, but that sure didn't happen.

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

Ghostpilot posted:

(scaling with level until 80, where it's a mere 3.5 silver).

Which to put in perspective, is about what you'd get from 2 events or from selling a few pieces of junk level 80 greens to a vendor.

Early on 3.5 silver seems huge, but later on it is pretty much ignorable.

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

bamhand posted:

So I just got the game this week on sale, any tips for starting out? How's crafting like? Mandatory for getting decent gear or can you just buy what you need? And I understand most of the gear grinding is for cosmetics and not for getting stats?

What's your character name? I'll help get you started when I get on in a bit.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

rap music posted:

What's your character name? I'll help get you started when I get on in a bit.

Won't be on until tonight I think, I just finished downloading the game a few days ago and I haven't had a chance to play yet. My user name is bamhand. Is that different from individual character names?

Myriad
Apr 26, 2010

bamhand posted:

So I just got the game this week on sale, any tips for starting out? How's crafting like? Mandatory for getting decent gear or can you just buy what you need? And I understand most of the gear grinding is for cosmetics and not for getting stats?

Crafting is a lovely way of turning money into Exp/Just stuff for Legendary weapons nowadays. They cost way too much to level to and are not really worth it. With Ascended gear it's a little of a grind to get ~The Best Possible Stats~ but that's entirely optional unless you want to do high level Fractals.

If you ever want to upgrade your gear while leveling your best bets to just look on the Trading Post for whatever green/yellow your level is cheap.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
So what's the end game PvE like? The only MMO I've played is WoW like 5 years ago and that was all about killing dragons to get loot.

weinus
Mar 4, 2004

I was made to understand there were grilled cheese sandwiches here.

bamhand posted:

So what's the end game PvE like? The only MMO I've played is WoW like 5 years ago and that was all about killing dragons to get loot.

There is no end-game PvE really... no raids at least. Most people at 80 do daily runs of some of the dungeons, play WvW, do world events (killing dragons being one of them) or run around in circles in Lion's Arch all day.

Endgame gear in this game is mostly purchased or crafted with the stats you want, then transmuted to whatever skin you want. So while you will get loot from killing stuff and doing world events, it's mostly just to salvage or sell so you can save towards what you really want to buy.

weinus fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Nov 15, 2013

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
I meant does that get you loot? Cosmetics? What's the incentive (other than being fun obviously) for playing when you hit the level cap. Like WoW was very clearly based on constantly upgrading your gear with tier after tier of dungeons and armor sets. Does GW require the same amount of grinding to get the high end stuff? Or do you just level up a bunch of alts and do battlegrounds? I hear both the PvP and single player content is really good.

Turncoat Mommy
Oct 3, 2010

I believe in you.
Cosmetics mostly, the end game is making the perfect outfit to show how anime you are, it's more addicting than it sounds. The spvp is awesome because the gear is normalized with a whole bunch of options and you are auto leveled to 80 with all your class abilities so you can pvp on any class after doing the tutorial level.

rap music
Mar 11, 2006

bamhand posted:

I meant does that get you loot? Cosmetics? What's the incentive (other than being fun obviously) for playing when you hit the level cap. Like WoW was very clearly based on constantly upgrading your gear with tier after tier of dungeons and armor sets. Does GW require the same amount of grinding to get the high end stuff? Or do you just level up a bunch of alts and do battlegrounds? I hear both the PvP and single player content is really good.

It's not about hitting and playing at cap, really. You can do a lot of stuff the 80s are doing while you are leveling so just have fun doing whatever interests you.

ApeHawk
Jun 6, 2010

All the NPCs will look up and shout, "Do this quest!"
and I'll whisper, "Sure, why not."

rap music posted:

It's not about hitting and playing at cap, really. You can do a lot of stuff the 80s are doing while you are leveling so just have fun doing whatever interests you.

WvW is great for leveling alts, too. It's really the best "endgame" in this game.

Sprite141
Feb 7, 2009

I should really just
learn to stop talking.

malhavok posted:

I'm up to 39750 hardened leather and no place to stash more, drat ascended armor needs to come out soon.

And here I thought I was being ready with my 1000+ gossamer scraps. Why hardened leather?

Crimsonbeak
Nov 7, 2004

Sprite141 posted:

And here I thought I was being ready with my 1000+ gossamer scraps. Why hardened leather?

Because it is cheaper. And all those thieves need new pants and trenchcoats.

weinus
Mar 4, 2004

I was made to understand there were grilled cheese sandwiches here.

malhavok posted:

I'm up to 39750 hardened leather and no place to stash more, drat ascended armor needs to come out soon.

I hope you invested in quartz crystals when I mentioned it last time we were talking about this stuff! It's up from 1s to almost 4s now. I think I finally made a good investment :3 Hopefully it doesn't crash before I decide to sell it

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/43773

malhavok
Jan 18, 2013

weinus posted:

I hope you invested in quartz crystals when I mentioned it last time we were talking about this stuff! It's up from 1s to almost 4s now. I think I finally made a good investment :3 Hopefully it doesn't crash before I decide to sell it

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/43773

I did not, i've been throwing every cent i made into leather. I do expect it to go up more than that though.

Sprite141 posted:

And here I thought I was being ready with my 1000+ gossamer scraps. Why hardened leather?

Because gossamer was already over 4s when i started and ori 5-6s, if leather goes to 5s gossamer would have to go to 20s to match the profit and ori to 25-30s. I imagine leather might go up to somewhere around 8-10s, at least during the first day, and there is no way the profit from gossamer, ori, or quartz crystals can match that.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....

bamhand posted:

I meant does that get you loot? Cosmetics? What's the incentive (other than being fun obviously) for playing when you hit the level cap. Like WoW was very clearly based on constantly upgrading your gear with tier after tier of dungeons and armor sets. Does GW require the same amount of grinding to get the high end stuff? Or do you just level up a bunch of alts and do battlegrounds? I hear both the PvP and single player content is really good.

The most important thing: don't rush. Just run around, see new places, and never be afraid to leave one zone to go to another. If you find one section of the game boring try something else. Don't worry about gear there is not that much of a difference between quality levels. If you have too just grab blues off the trade post every 5 levels but never be afraid to spend karma

NEVER GRIND.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




For anyone trying to go to the SFD forums linked in the OP who doesn't follow our other avenues of communication, our site is currently totally down because Swiss Knight sold it to a hobo last night for a spot in line at the PS4 launch. We're not able to reach him currently because he's literally inside his PS4 with a large cache of soda water, so please use our IRC (#sfdental on irc.synirc.net) and keep up with our SA thread for announcements. Sorry!

Turncoat Mommy
Oct 3, 2010

I believe in you.

Brought the anime level up a bit:

binge crotching
Apr 2, 2010

bamhand posted:

I meant does that get you loot? Cosmetics? What's the incentive (other than being fun obviously) for playing when you hit the level cap. Like WoW was very clearly based on constantly upgrading your gear with tier after tier of dungeons and armor sets. Does GW require the same amount of grinding to get the high end stuff? Or do you just level up a bunch of alts and do battlegrounds? I hear both the PvP and single player content is really good.

The best thing about hitting the level cap is you finally have access to all your traits, and gear that doesn't feel like a waste to buy. You can also now go anywhere in the game without worrying about being too low of a level, although some areas are still bullshit at 80 (Orr).

Futaba Anzu
May 6, 2011

GROSS BOY

Does anyone remember the goon who made such classic Guild Wars 2 comedy videos such as the extreme Stag action 360 noscope and the one using the dialogue from a porn clip where they stick their balls into someone's vagina? I can't find him on Youtube, so I thought he might have had his account terminated or something.

CLAM DOWN
Feb 13, 2007




pandaK posted:

Does anyone remember the goon who made such classic Guild Wars 2 comedy videos such as the extreme Stag action 360 noscope and the one using the dialogue from a porn clip where they stick their balls into someone's vagina? I can't find him on Youtube, so I thought he might have had his account terminated or something.

Wouldn't putting your balls into a vagina hurt?

Captain Candiru
Nov 9, 2006

These hips don't lye

CLAM DOWN posted:

Wouldn't putting your balls into a vagina hurt?

Are you really asking this question? Some men like to be hung from the rafters by their balls. Only their balls.

HaroldofTheRock
Jun 3, 2003

Pillbug

bamhand posted:

So I just got the game this week on sale, any tips for starting out? How's crafting like? Mandatory for getting decent gear or can you just buy what you need? And I understand most of the gear grinding is for cosmetics and not for getting stats?

Here's a little tip that every new person should be told. Say you're out in the open world having adventures and killing stuff but you realize you need a merchant or your bank, and neither one is close. Press B, this brings up the WvW menu. Select your home server and enter, as long as there's no queue you will get in right away.

You are now in WvW, in your home world's Citadel, which is 100% safe from the enemy. Here you will find merchants and crafting stations, which give you access to your bank. Take care of whatever you need.

Once you are ready to go back, press F12 and select Log Out. This takes you to the character select screen, so pick your character again and hit Play. You will reappear back in the open world exactly where you left off. The point of all this is, you can have immediate access to your bank or a merchant at any time in the open world. Just don't do this with any loot bags laying around on the ground or you will lose them.

SlothBear
Jan 25, 2009

HaroldofTheRock posted:

Once you are ready to go back, press F12 and select Log Out. This takes you to the character select screen, so pick your character again and hit Play. You will reappear back in the open world exactly where you left off. The point of all this is, you can have immediate access to your bank or a merchant at any time in the open world. Just don't do this with any loot bags laying around on the ground or you will lose them.

Much quicker: Go to the heart of the mists, leave the heart of the mists.

Enos Shenk
Nov 3, 2011


The heart of the mists free Lions Arch trip is the only reason I go there.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

HaroldofTheRock posted:

Here's a little tip that every new person should be told.

Awesome, that's exactly the kind of stuff I wanted to know!

There aren't the standard tank/dps/healer classes right? I think I heard that you do dungeons by just kiting stuff until your personal heal comes off cool down?

bamhand fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Nov 16, 2013

Yeast Confection
Oct 7, 2005

bamhand posted:

There aren't the standard tank/dps/healer classes right? I think I heard that you do dungeons by just kiting stuff until your personal heal comes off cool down?

Basically, yeah. No stupid trinity of jobs.

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Shalebridge Cradle
Apr 23, 2008


bamhand posted:

Awesome, that's exactly the kind of stuff I wanted to know!

There aren't the standard tank/dps/healer classes right? I think I heard that you do dungeons by just kiting stuff until your personal heal comes off cool down?

More accurately you do dungeons by running past large groups of trash and pulling single strong monsters out of groups to fight them individually around corners.

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