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What hot hatch do you own?
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Golf GTI / R / R32 196 0.02%
Impreza WRX / STi 133 0.01%
Mazdaspeed 3 92 0.01%
Veloster Turbo 20 0.00%
Focus ST 149 0.01%
Other Hot Hatch 230 0.02%
Elantra GT 1000001 99.92%
Total: 1000821 votes
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BigBadBrewsta
Mar 11, 2002

"The State of Iowa: let us exceed your already low expectations."

-Raygun T-Shirt

Lasting Damage posted:

Having driven a standard Focus and then a ST equipped with MFT for around one and a half year, I think I can say it didn't used to be overblown, but definitely is now. It was pretty lovely at first, but there's been several updates since then. The current revision in my ST is completely serviceable, but in the 2012 Focus I drove for a while it was a hot mess at first.

Now its just sort of clunky and difficult to use most of the time.

Plenty of people also think Windows is "completely serviceable" too.

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Jefinabox
Jun 26, 2007

sadnessboner posted:

I've got a 205 GTi 1.9, and a Fiesta ST on order; but this is the car I can't help feel I should have instead of both.

I can't vouch for the fiesta ST having never driven one but the clio is a bit like a modern 205 in lots of ways, only much, much more capable. I bought it for my girlfriend to drive but now I'm thinking of buying one for just me too, it's that good.

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004
As an Apple fan and someone who does UI and UX for a living, the mft drives me bananas. It also feels like technology from like 5-6 years ago, since it's a resistive touch screen and isn't very responsive. The entire idea that you have to use SCROLL BARS on a touch screen is retarded. Also the source selection screen is annoying, since the sources I usually listen to is on the second screen for no good reason with no way to reorder them.

I have it both on my 2013 Escape and my 2014 Fiesta ST. It's slightly better on the Escape because of the larger screen, but it's bad on both..

However having said all that, The ONLY user interface I've seen that is decent on a car is the newer versions of BMW's iDrive system.

Really car companies should get out of the business of doing software and let someone else do it.

I like Apple's idea of just letting the Phone drive the user interface remotely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_in_the_Car

echobucket fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Nov 19, 2013

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
I wish I had the option of just a panel that displayed the radio station and clock and thats it. The fancy poo poo on there does nothing but complicate the basic poo poo that I do on it.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

echobucket posted:

As an Apple fan and someone who does UI and UX for a living, the mft drives me bananas. It also feels like technology from like 5-6 years ago, since it's a resistive touch screen and isn't very responsive. The entire idea that you have to use SCROLL BARS on a touch screen is retarded. Also the source selection screen is annoying, since the sources I usually listen to is on the second screen for no good reason with no way to reorder them.

I have it both on my 2013 Escape and my 2014 Fiesta ST. It's slightly better on the Escape because of the larger screen, but it's bad on both..

However having said all that, The ONLY user interface I've seen that is decent on a car is the newer versions of BMW's iDrive system.

Really car companies should get out of the business of doing software and let someone else do it.

I like Apple's idea of just letting the Phone drive the user interface remotely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_in_the_Car

The problem is, Apple work on yearly (at most biennial) refresh schedules, and car manufacturers are on decade cycles.

sadnessboner
Feb 20, 2006
The number of big manufacturers perusing the technology shows that it has merit. It doesn't sound like it'll completely replace the manufacturers proprietary OS's, just add iOS/app integration on top of the cars own climate/radio/etc functions

sadnessboner fucked around with this message at 04:00 on Nov 20, 2013

Shoota_McG
Sep 8, 2004
My 2010 Mazdaspeed3 in winter gear along with my rally beater from a couple years ago, not quite a hot hatch with just over 100 HP but it was more than 1000 lbs lighter than my Mazda after removing a bunch of stuff.

The torquesteer doesn't bother me at all but I do wish that it had a sunroof.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.

drgitlin posted:

The problem is, Apple work on yearly (at most biennial) refresh schedules, and car manufacturers are on decade cycles.

But the carmakers are having to refresh (and patch) their UIs a lot more often than that. If they offer iPod / Android / Bluetooth anything integration they're locking themselves into the faster cycle regardless.

blk
Dec 19, 2009
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Echobucket ygpm

FortifiedTumor
Aug 4, 2007
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Woo. Purchased a ST1 Focus today. It feels slower than my 09 MS3; but better in every other way so far.

Went with the ST1 because I'm cheap and was somewhat wary of the Recaros on long trips and MFT in general. I do wish it had a better stereo though.

Poisonlizard
Apr 1, 2007
Anyone have cold weather issues with the ST? Once it got below 30 or so, the rear motor mount issues became very obvious to me. Starting the car in the morning has been a cringe moment every day. So I'm headed to the dealer first thing Monday morning.
And the keyless unlock doesn't work for me when it's cold. I grab the handle, and it does nothing. Then I have to dig the fob out of my pocket and figure out which button is which. Had the car for 8 months, and I don't know which button is which, because I've never needed to.

On the plus side, it handled ice pretty well. Even with the stock tires.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

Poisonlizard posted:

Anyone have cold weather issues with the ST? Once it got below 30 or so, the rear motor mount issues became very obvious to me. Starting the car in the morning has been a cringe moment every day. So I'm headed to the dealer first thing Monday morning.
And the keyless unlock doesn't work for me when it's cold. I grab the handle, and it does nothing. Then I have to dig the fob out of my pocket and figure out which button is which. Had the car for 8 months, and I don't know which button is which, because I've never needed to.

On the plus side, it handled ice pretty well. Even with the stock tires.

All of the above for me. Thankfully I just moved to Texas (never thought I'd say that) so cold weather might not be too much of an issue this winter for me.

The keyless entry thing not working is the most annoying for me because a lot of the time I'll keep my spare key in a zippered pocket or my backpack.

Atmus
Mar 8, 2002

Poisonlizard posted:

Anyone have cold weather issues with the ST? Once it got below 30 or so, the rear motor mount issues became very obvious to me. Starting the car in the morning has been a cringe moment every day. So I'm headed to the dealer first thing Monday morning.
And the keyless unlock doesn't work for me when it's cold. I grab the handle, and it does nothing. Then I have to dig the fob out of my pocket and figure out which button is which. Had the car for 8 months, and I don't know which button is which, because I've never needed to.

On the plus side, it handled ice pretty well. Even with the stock tires.

It was around -3f this morning and mine unlocked and started fine. Making it go anywhere in the snow, on the other hand...

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
Snow tires man. These Conti Winter Extremes I have are absolutely fantastic. It won't be above freezing here until Tuesday.

Poisonlizard
Apr 1, 2007
Speaking of snow, I still have summer tires on mine. Went and grabbed the Miata Wed night to drive in the snow. It had a dead battery yesterday morning, so I took the ST to work. Drive home was a bit tense. Once I got it going, it did pretty well, but getting it going was just idle and slowly let the clutch out. Today I managed to back it away from the corner, but I couldn't get it into the driveway.

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004

Poisonlizard posted:

Speaking of snow, I still have summer tires on mine. Went and grabbed the Miata Wed night to drive in the snow. It had a dead battery yesterday morning, so I took the ST to work. Drive home was a bit tense. Once I got it going, it did pretty well, but getting it going was just idle and slowly let the clutch out. Today I managed to back it away from the corner, but I couldn't get it into the driveway.

Now that there's a Focus ST and a Fiesta ST, I sure wish people would say which one they have in posts. *pet peeve*

Jefinabox
Jun 26, 2007
I've bought another clio. This one has a load of upgrades like an arb, springs and a blown up engine. It'll be my car for work and track days, hillclimbing etc. Pictures when I've got the aa to drag it home.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe

echobucket posted:

Now that there's a Focus ST and a Fiesta ST, I sure wish people would say which one they have in posts. *pet peeve*

Meh, they're the same thing, just a couple extra inches. :smaug:

Atmus
Mar 8, 2002

veedubfreak posted:

Snow tires man. These Conti Winter Extremes I have are absolutely fantastic. It won't be above freezing here until Tuesday.

What did they run you? I'd have to get wheels as well, so I'll probably just blow it off and drive one of my trucks when the road is the wrong color though.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
I dropped down to spare size which is 15", wheels tires roadhazard all in was like 700 and it came with a 50 dollar gift card. Build it on tire rack, print it out and take it to discount tire and they'll match it. Saved me close to 150 bucks doing it that way over just walking in the store.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry
Getting my RMMs done on Monday. Dealer was pretty up-front about stuff, all covered under warranty and such.

A fuckin truck kicked a lime-sized piece of asphalt into my windshield on an offramp the other day, thank god it was warm enough that it broke apart on contact but now my car has 3,000 miles and a goddamn windshield star on her :(

Lasting Damage
Feb 26, 2006

Fallen Rib
How long did it take for the parts to come in? I asked my dealer to order my RMMs in October, and they said they still had 5 other people waiting :(

Lasting Damage fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Dec 13, 2013

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

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uhhhh three days? I went in today for my scheduled maintenance, asked them to look at my windshield and my RMMs and they just called saying it'll be in stock Monday.

I probably own the only Focus ST this particular dealer sold this year. My part of town if you're buying a new car you're A) not buying a car, you're buying a truck, and/or B) you're not because you can't afford a new car.

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002
Anyone else get in for the ST Octane Academy? Registrations opened the other day. I got my slot in April.

Poisonlizard
Apr 1, 2007

Laranzu posted:

Anyone else get in for the ST Octane Academy? Registrations opened the other day. I got my slot in April.

God I want to so bad, just don't think I can get the cash/vacation time together.

Also, third thing in the FAQ:

quote:

Are there automatic transmission vehicles available?

ihop
Jul 23, 2001
King of the Mexicans

Laranzu posted:

Anyone else get in for the ST Octane Academy? Registrations opened the other day. I got my slot in April.

Thanks for this, registered for a session in October. Am I reading the FAQ correctly that even though I registered myself, its ok to send an immediate relative in my place?

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004

ihop posted:

Thanks for this, registered for a session in October. Am I reading the FAQ correctly that even though I registered myself, its ok to send an immediate relative in my place?

Man, these are filling up fast. Crap, I would really like to go and it looks like airfare and hotel isn't too expensive either....

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Holy crap I ordered my Fiesta ST well over a month ago and I still have no info! I'm dying over here, I want my turbo hatch !

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004
Well, I just registered for the Oct 1st-2nd Octane Academy. This is a once in a lifetime thing for me, because I'd never pay for one of these things myself. Now to figure out the plane tickets and hotel stuff.

I pushed the button on their $105 limited liability... Don't know how much that is needed, but I would hate to tear up something on one of the cars and have to pay for it so, whatever.

sadnessboner
Feb 20, 2006

Voltage posted:

Holy crap I ordered my Fiesta ST well over a month ago and I still have no info! I'm dying over here, I want my turbo hatch !

I'm in Australia, but I know that feeling :( I put my order down on the 2nd of September, for a December 16th delivery. Right now, my car is still on the dock in Germany and they can't even tell me when it'll be on a ship. I've since sold all my fun cars to boot. It's souring that new car excitement pretty quickly

sadnessboner fucked around with this message at 03:04 on Dec 18, 2013

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Luckily I still have my Miata with snows to hold me over, but it's 8F outside and I can't ride my bike, and the Fiesta will have heated recaro's so it's been a long wait. I ordered mine mid November and I just got a call from the dealer today and they said it just shipped out and should be here "sometime in January"

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT
Was going to do the Octane Academy as a vacation to get away from the stress of home and work, but that went out the window when my company notified that I was being let go at the end of this month along with a few others :(

In Focus ST news, for us guys in the parts of the world that get dirt and snow, there is a TSB out to get the handle sensors fixed and covered with sealant since they get clogged and won't respond to human touch.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
Dumb question, but my local dealership told me that my RMM (focus st) problem is a transmission issue. That really doesn't make sense to me at all. They also canceled my scheduled appointment as I walked through the door. Awesome.

Laranzu
Jan 18, 2002

Bob A Feet posted:

Dumb question, but my local dealership told me that my RMM (focus st) problem is a transmission issue. That really doesn't make sense to me at all. They also canceled my scheduled appointment as I walked through the door. Awesome.

There is a clutch line and transmission bracket they replace as well but it's mostly a rmm.
As long as they do 13-6-10 you're getting the right stuff.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Spent today playing tetris moving cars around our garage in anticipation of a new three door Celica that's showing up in mid-January.

For all of you getting Focusii, cancel your orders and buy Escort Cosworths.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Butt Wizard posted:

Spent today playing tetris moving cars around our garage in anticipation of a new three door Celica that's showing up in mid-January.

For all of you getting Focusii, cancel your orders and buy Escort Cosworths.

Tough poo poo for us Americans I guess. I'd kill for an RS 1600.

pr0craztinazn
Feb 24, 2006
After striking out at the two local dealers who had cars configured close enough to what I wanted but weren't willing to negotiate, I put down a deposit and ordered a 2014 Fiesta ST with the Recaro package and navigation. I'm pretty eagerly awaiting the day I can trade my Prius in.

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004

pr0craztinazn posted:

After striking out at the two local dealers who had cars configured close enough to what I wanted but weren't willing to negotiate, I put down a deposit and ordered a 2014 Fiesta ST with the Recaro package and navigation. I'm pretty eagerly awaiting the day I can trade my Prius in.

Ha. I traded in a Prius for a Fiesta ST too. The Prius is like driving a marshmallow. I have so much fun everyday driving my ST. Plus I still get 30+ MPG. (Unless I have too much fun driving, then it drops to around 27-28)

KakerMix
Apr 8, 2004

8.2 M.P.G.
:byetankie:

echobucket posted:

Ha. I traded in a Prius for a Fiesta ST too. The Prius is like driving a marshmallow. I have so much fun everyday driving my ST. Plus I still get 30+ MPG. (Unless I have too much fun driving, then it drops to around 27-28)

I constantly get the lower end MPG of my car. I didn't get a hot hatch to put around town like a Prius and neither should you. :colbert:

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pr0craztinazn
Feb 24, 2006

echobucket posted:

Ha. I traded in a Prius for a Fiesta ST too. The Prius is like driving a marshmallow. I have so much fun everyday driving my ST. Plus I still get 30+ MPG. (Unless I have too much fun driving, then it drops to around 27-28)
Those are the MPG numbers I'm hoping to see out of mine, too. I just sold my AE86 and am starting a complete rebuild of my E30, so my hope was to inject fun into the commute.

Is there one particular forum for the Fiesta ST that's worth following? There are 4 different ones that all have varying levels of traffic, and it seems like the same people post in each.

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