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Chains improved a bunch in PD2 by getting better lines and sounding less like Grover.
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 21:18 |
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Aliginge posted:For all my annoyance with the voice acting, Chains definitely improved. He was dull as gently caress in PD1. that dirt
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 21:21 |
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FishBulb posted:Why do people care so much about Hoxton's voice actor anyways. For me, I generally pay attention to voice acting in video games. It's probably idiosyncratic. Since even the most sophisticated animation (which Payday is far from) is still in uncanny valley, the voice acting in games is the most human performance. I've been impressed by what Overkill got. Old Chains was drat sexy, New Chains is intense and hilarious, Wolf (not a professional actor) is surprisingly natural as a psychopath, and Old Hoxton was cool and novel. I don't feel one way or the other about Dallas. But New Hoxton, my God. New Hoxton impresses me with how much I dislike his voice. Some pubbies have better voices, and that's saying something.
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 21:22 |
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reminder that they named the black guy chains
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 21:22 |
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TenementFunster posted:reminder that they named the black guy chains No no you don't get it. It's because he was in the military.
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 21:24 |
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TenementFunster posted:reminder that they named the black guy chains Don't act dumb
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 21:25 |
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TenementFunster posted:reminder that they named the black guy chains Which is great, because when someone gets a Chains mask you can sing Judas Priest.
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 21:32 |
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Anonymous Robot posted:Which is great, because when someone gets a Chains mask you can sing Judas Priest. My friends and I exclusively refer to him as "2 Chainz." Even if there's only one of them.
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 22:03 |
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Just for anyone interested in save backups, I made a tool to make it slightly faster then having to manually do it. You can see the release thread on the Payday Forums at http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3198463 For anyone who doesn't want to trust me you can download the source and see it's harmless from the github linked in that thread. It makes creating backups ever slightly easier. Yes the source code is horribly written but when I did it I was in a rush, and just slapped it all together. I do have plans to clean it up and make it nicer. Anyone who finds bugs can feel free to PM me to fix or can submit a fix on github. Also currently only supports games installed on your main drive, but I'm going to add support for externally found Payday/userdata folders at a later date. Miker525 fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Nov 21, 2013 |
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HellCopter posted:My friends and I exclusively refer to him as "2 Chainz." Even if there's only one of them. When me and my friend both got Wolf infamous masks in the course of an hour we started rolling into matches yelling "WOLF GANG" so don't feel to left out.
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 23:09 |
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I'm scared to lose my utility. I play Techforcer, so I'm mostly shoot things/open things, but a Techforcer can't stealth for poo poo. At all. You need smooth talker, bags, shinobi...Otherwise you're just sitting outside waiting for poo poo to get loud. Bah, if I can't do this http://goo.gl/mm87YC I'll be sad.
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 23:33 |
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Phuzun posted:I think you typically get 4-5 loot bags out of deposit boxes, which does not add up a huge amount in the grand scheme of things. But to answer the stealth question, you want to get a silenced gun with Cable Guy(Aced) and Smooth Talker(Owned) at a minimum. If you can get Cleaner (owned) in the Ghost tree, it is very helpful for moving corpses that may get spotted. Dominator (Owned or Aced) is pretty useful in getting an extra guy down, if you can swing it. As for the gameplay, you need to take out the guards, then answer their pagers without being seen. If you break a camera, a guard will come to inspect it and this leaves you with an easy way to setup an ambush. I try to do an arrest with Dominator for the first guard, since guards will sometimes just pull their gun out and begin firing instead of giving up. There are a number of variations on stealthing the bank which you need to be careful of. If the vault is by the tellers you need to control the entire bank. If the vault is towards the back of the building you don't even need to control the area with the tellers, control the office area to the side and take out the guards/camera room. The camera locations can vary a bit and guard patrols can be slow. What I do for stealthing the map is I go through count the guards, look to see if the keycard is on the manager's desk. Once you know whether you have to take the keycard or stealth it from the desk you can proceed. Often I end up taking out the manager anyway as he patrols like a guard. My order is as follows for solo stealth bank heist: Due to the cash blown killing civilians in a solo run I recommend spending all your money. It's hard to deduct money when your balance is $0. 1. scout bank to get the above information. 2. take out a camera to bait guards into patrolling to check the camera. Answer pagers and hide bodies (some points in ghost helps). 3. Once there are one or zero guards left stealth the keycard if I haven't killed the manager in step 2. 4. dominate the camera room guard. 5. remove remaining guard. 6. cable tie the office area civilians. I understand there can be a variation where there are civilians on the side facing the teller area which can be an issue but they need to be dealt with in the next step. 7. get close to open teller door, drop ecm and kill tellers. Get all remaining civilians in the bank down. Look for exclamation points. Usually there is a guy on a bench outside the bank. Smash the nearest window run out and kill him and any other civilians that see you. Keep the bank civilians under control while you hide the bodies inside the bank. 8. cable tie all civilians, once you run out of cable ties kill the remaining civilians inside the bank. 9. I don't kill the remaining external civilians because there's no challenge sneaking past them (no need to blow additional spending cash). 10. Set up drill and proceed to loot. I learn this with some experimentation and watching a few stealth videos. The two last runs both yielded about $312k spending cash each and about $1m in the offshore fully looting the deposit boxes. The earlier run was on very hard and I got lucky with 13 cash bags total. The last run was pro gold overkill. Only 4 bags of gold and 2 cash bags. I might have got unlucky with the gold spawn but it's pretty sweet clocking up $105k for each bag of gold. I also figured out how to stealth diamond store last night. That's a special kind of torture and I ended up killing 20 civilians to do it solo. I did it on overkill which required 14 bags to complete leaving only 3 bags for big money. I probably should have played it on hard for loot purposes. Diamond store seems well crafted for coop stealth. Out of anything I enjoyed running four stores on overkill more. Run in and ecm both ATMs and raid the cash registers before hopping in the van. One ATM completes the objective.
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# ? Nov 20, 2013 23:48 |
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cheezit posted:I'm scared to lose my utility. I play Techforcer, so I'm mostly shoot things/open things, but a Techforcer can't stealth for poo poo. At all. You need smooth talker, bags, shinobi...Otherwise you're just sitting outside waiting for poo poo to get loud. Well you'll need to drop 13 points (or whatever that's going to be set).
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 03:20 |
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Aesis posted:Well you'll need to drop 13 points (or whatever that's going to be set). Yeah, but it's fun to decide what I no longer want to be able to participate in. Do I not want to be stealthy? Do I not want to be able to saw things open? Do I not want to be able to answer pagers or talk down guards? It's a brilliant decision to squash utility. Dammit, I'm the guy that lets other people get away with being specialists.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 16:35 |
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Oh hey another question. I'm digging my shotgunny enforcer build a lot right now and I just hit level 26 last night so I can buy the newer shotgun(The one that looks like Saiga 12) but it only seems to be better in a couple ways compared to my renfield 800. Should I just focus on modding the poo poo out of my Renfield or should I grab the Saiga one and use that? Also suggestions on a secondary weapon in a shotgun build? Currently using the Crosskill pistol cause it looks like a 1911 and I love the way a 1911 looks but I'm thinking of switching to a SMG for something full auto that I can use for distance(snipers, outside cops that sort of thing)
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 17:20 |
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Have you unlocked the Locomotive yet for a secondary? A lot of shotty enforcers prefer that, since they get class bonuses.
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BlackCircle posted:Oh hey another question. I'm digging my shotgunny enforcer build a lot right now and I just hit level 26 last night so I can buy the newer shotgun(The one that looks like Saiga 12) but it only seems to be better in a couple ways compared to my renfield 800. Should I just focus on modding the poo poo out of my Renfield or should I grab the Saiga one and use that? The Saiga needs skills and upgade parts to really shine. Without them, its damage is pitiful and the reload is painfully long. Once you've got Overkill unlocked though? It turns into a cop slaughtering beast. The Reinfelds in a decent spot right now so Id stick with it. Back it up with a Crosskill or Bronco and you're golden. Alternatively, you could bring an assault rifle as a primary and use the locomotive as your shotgun. Gives you a little more oomph at range and the loco is drat good up close. The M308 is good for this as well but its not got much ammo, reloads slow, and badly wants that headshot bonus techs get.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 17:40 |
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This game just isn't as fun anymore, since the Mumble died...
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 19:26 |
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What is the mumble info? I'll play with some goons later tonight if we can get a group goin. I can shoot cops pretty good and can follow orders real well if someone wants to stealth things.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 19:49 |
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From OP http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3562049 People usually idle in the chat for games. Play with goons.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 19:57 |
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ForeverBWFC posted:This game just isn't as fun anymore, since the Mumble died... Mumble's not dead dude, there were about a dozen people on last night.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 20:43 |
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KittySpinEcho posted:Mumble's not dead dude, there were about a dozen people on last night. I found a game two nights ago just by joining a channel with a couple people in it & then hunting down Steam names from Mumble names via the Steam group chat to join their game. Ended up gaining 20 levels in one match...after screwing up the first part of Framing Frames for them a half-dozen times. I gained such valuable intel as "Don't fire your unsilenced weapon when stealthing" and "Don't pistol whip the guard we're trying to Dominate in the dick" and all it took was a little Mumble creeping.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 20:53 |
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Aesis posted:Yes. Minimum you need is Shinobi and Cleaner Ace, which require 14 points. And Overkill wonders why people spec 3 trees You can stealth without Shinobi aced pretty easily. I do like the speed increase the 1st point gives though.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 21:41 |
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KittySpinEcho posted:Mumble's not dead dude, there were about a dozen people on last night. I was there. We just need a few more people on and we could have quite a few games running. oldskool posted:I found a game two nights ago just by joining a channel with a couple people in it & then hunting down Steam names from Mumble names via the Steam group chat to join their game. Ended up gaining 20 levels in one match...after screwing up the first part of Framing Frames for them a half-dozen times. Pretty much my experience. By about level 30 I started learning stuff. Level 40 I started making enough cash to buy a lot of gear. Now if only I had some decent mods. Devian666 fucked around with this message at 21:49 on Nov 21, 2013 |
# ? Nov 21, 2013 21:47 |
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Finally hit level 100 Now to wait until patch hits so I can get a free respec.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 22:51 |
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Aesis posted:Finally hit level 100 Theres no telling when that patch will hit, just do it now, how do you not have like 10 million lying around at level 100?
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:03 |
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I have a couple of questions. Are the card rewards the same no matter the mission or difficulty? Can you craft an unlimited number of masks?
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:16 |
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Devian666 posted:I have a couple of questions. There are limited mask slots. You can buy more for 800k. I have no idea how the card system works, I've been assuming you have a higher chance of rare cards on higher difficulties but who knows it sucks.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:19 |
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Devian666 posted:I have a couple of questions. After your eighth you have to buy more slots at 800k each.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:19 |
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FishBulb posted:I have no idea how the card system works, I've been assuming you have a higher chance of rare cards on higher difficulties but who knows it sucks. I've been doing some card farming but I have a serious lack of silencers and scopes at the moment. So many potential mods but gently caress all of them drop.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:29 |
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FishBulb posted:Theres no telling when that patch will hit, just do it now, how do you not have like 10 million lying around at level 100? I have around $13 million, but not going to spend $4 from it Devian666 posted:I have a couple of questions. I think the probability is same no matter what difficulty you play.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:31 |
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Aesis posted:I have around $13 million, but not going to spend $4 from it What else are you going to spend it on?
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:35 |
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Aesis posted:I think the probability is same no matter what difficulty you play. Looks like the only way to change anything significantly is via lucky charm. I'm already heavily invested in the ghost tree so I guess I end up doing that until I farm up enough decent mods (this is going to take me a while).
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:37 |
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Devian666 posted:I have a couple of questions. There is a higher chance of infamous drops on overkill. Goldfarb confirmed it on his twitter about two months back. Otherwise no.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:39 |
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Devian666 posted:I've been doing some card farming but I have a serious lack of silencers and scopes at the moment. So many potential mods but gently caress all of them drop. It may be a miniscule improvement, but the game doesn't seem to give you a 3rd copy of any mod if you have 2 sitting un-attached in your big locker of illegal blaster parts. If you're going to begin a hardcore period of card-farming, you could aid you chances of drawing those things you have 0 of. I'm this does not apply to colors, and I think it's the same for masks and patterns.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:41 |
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I have played Payday 2 for 150+ hours and I have never seen a holo sight drop for anyone, not for me, not for anyone on a team I was on, I've done every job on every difficulty. Its just bizarre. I also still don't have a deagle long barrel or a Stryk stock. I don't even really use those guns currently but I still want one damnit! Its the principal!
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:44 |
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Yeah, I don't know anyone that has a holo sight of any kind.
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:45 |
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I have three holo sights. Hope this helps
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# ? Nov 21, 2013 23:57 |
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TenementFunster posted:I have three holo sights. Hope this helps It doesn't really it just shows that the drop system is random and hard to figure out!
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# ? May 23, 2024 14:41 |
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Soral posted:No no you don't get it. Overkill posted:During development, the issue was raised by Sony game testers that the name "Chains" could be seen as unsuitable for an Afro American character, because of the US slavery back in the days. Oh swedes~
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# ? Nov 22, 2013 00:26 |