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Sweevo posted:I picked this up at work some years ago: Ship that back to me in 1994, I could have used it. I had an SX 25, which was a HUGE goddamn upgrade from my 8088.
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thebigcow posted:How is that supposed to work with a heatsink? What heatsink?
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evol262 posted:Sane companies (the kind in regulated industries where you could have a major scandal) don't allow BYOB devices onto unrestricted networks without a corporate image or corporate management of the device. Policies are already in place in banking and healthcare. "Mobile Device Management" doesn't do what you think it does. I'm pretty sure that there've been people who work in healthcare in this thread or the next talking about how they've deployed AirWatch and I can assure you that they are next to useless in terms of information security (as in, they've been losing deals OR having the customer pull in additional vendors in on deals, negating the point of them too late.) - can't go into any further detail here as it'd break client confidentiality here but I can assure you you're wrong (There's also the UK government as an example here - Call Me Dave's special suite of Prime Ministerial applications for his iPad are famous, but said iPad doesn't have any credible protection installed. This comes from a member of the cabinet so anonymous for obvious reasons)
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ookiimarukochan posted:"Mobile Device Management" doesn't do what you think it does. I'm pretty sure that there've been people who work in healthcare in this thread or the next talking about how they've deployed AirWatch and I can assure you that they are next to useless in terms of information security (as in, they've been losing deals OR having the customer pull in additional vendors in on deals, negating the point of them too late.) - can't go into any further detail here as it'd break client confidentiality here but I can assure you you're wrong (There's also the UK government as an example here - Call Me Dave's special suite of Prime Ministerial applications for his iPad are famous, but said iPad doesn't have any credible protection installed. This comes from a member of the cabinet so anonymous for obvious reasons) I don't think "Mobile Device Management" does whatever you think I think it does. It's never going to be a replacement for users not being morons. It is a way to ensure that blackbox devices can be purged from your corporate network if lost, and that devices have basic controls before you allow them access to corporate resources.
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Sweevo posted:I picked this up at work some years ago: I remember upgrading a chip, I want to say it was a 386 but I can't be sure, to a 486DX4 running at 100MHz using one of those wonky voltage converters. That thing was the cat's rear end, man. I remember that was when I realized that PCs were not big boxes but were made out of components that could be changed piecemeal. It was an eye opening experience.
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evol262 posted:It is a way to ensure that blackbox devices can be purged from your corporate network if lost, and that devices have basic controls before you allow them access to corporate resources. Yeah except that's not really true as it's trivial to disable/work around - unless you're saying that you're using certificate authentication on your wireless network and have cleverly added your "block iTunes" and "disable camera" restrictions to that profile (as Apple recommend) so they can't delete one without the other - the Apple mantra is "trust the user", something that's pretty much useless for the enterprise, and Google's MDM solution is literally just being able to set the required password strength. It's the equivalent of disabling local admin on your desktop / laptop computers and thinking "well, that's us secure" Without wanting to sound like this is an ad hominem - after all you may end up a future customer, and we've discussed earlier in the thread that a lot of the issue is really just a lack of sufficient training - have you ever considered that you may be part of the problem?
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ookiimarukochan posted:I'm pretty sure that there've been people who work in healthcare in this thread or the next talking about how they've deployed AirWatch and I can assure you that they are next to useless in terms of information security (as in, they've been losing deals OR having the customer pull in additional vendors in on deals, negating the point of them too late.) - can't go into any further detail here as it'd break client confidentiality here but I can assure you you're wrong (There's also the UK government as an example here - Call Me Dave's special suite of Prime Ministerial applications for his iPad are famous, but said iPad doesn't have any credible protection installed. This comes from a member of the cabinet so anonymous for obvious reasons)  Already, we're being told not to deploy it to Blackberry devices as there's some bug (Not sure what the issue is as they haven't gone into detail). We also have a deadline that we're supposed to have people on this drat thing, but the director has told us to hold off until the CFO has given the OK to begin deployment. We've already contacted her on numerous occasions and have yet to hear back. My guess, is that it's going to be yet another 'wait until the last minute' ordeal. Not at all looking forward to the upcoming clusterfuck.
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ookiimarukochan posted:Yeah except that's not really true as it's trivial to disable/work around - unless you're saying that you're using certificate authentication on your wireless network and have cleverly added your "block iTunes" and "disable camera" restrictions to that profile (as Apple recommend) so they can't delete one without the other - the Apple mantra is "trust the user", something that's pretty much useless for the enterprise, and Google's MDM solution is literally just being able to set the required password strength. It's the equivalent of disabling local admin on your desktop / laptop computers and thinking "well, that's us secure" If you mean "financial institutions use MobileIron because it provides bare minimum enterprise security and accounting for mobile devices", then yes. Nobody should be trusting a software suite designed to make sure your kid can't spend money on your iTunes account in the enterprise. But don't conflate "what healthcare and banks use" with "default tools". ookiimarukochan posted:Without wanting to sound like this is an ad hominem - after all you may end up a future customer, and we've discussed earlier in the thread that a lot of the issue is really just a lack of sufficient training - have you ever considered that you may be part of the problem?
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TWBalls posted:Well, poo poo. I work in healthcare I.T. and we're getting ready to deploy a MDM (I think it's Airwatch, I'll have to double-check).
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Agrikk posted:I remember upgrading a chip, I want to say it was a 386 but I can't be sure, to a 486DX4 running at 100MHz using one of those wonky voltage converters. I remember those poo poo 486 upgrade chips for 286's, you'd be stuck with the bus and all your old poo poo components on your 286 Friend of mine had a ultra-lovely 486DLC or something weird with a 256k VGA card and it could barely play Wolfenstein worth a poo poo.
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Bob Morales posted:I remember those poo poo 486 upgrade chips for 286's, you'd be stuck with the bus and all your old poo poo components on your 286 Don't forget to add a math coprocessor!
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thebigcow posted:How is that supposed to work with a heatsink? I'm feeling so old right now
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It shouldn't be this way in a country where we have laws like ADA to supposedly protect us, but I'm putting this out here so that others can benefit from my experience: Unless you have no choice, do not disclose a disability to your employer. They will gently caress you over, and they will do it in a way that is difficult to prove was discriminatory. This is now the third time I've been fired this year, and this time I can confidently say it was because I disclosed my disability and then they strung me along until they felt like they could get away with canning me. I'm going to be consulting with an attorney but I'm in an "at will" state which means that I'd have to prove discrimination occurred and that's very difficult. This has honestly been the worst year of my life, I think. At least I do have some prospects and I guess I'll just have to omit the fact that I'm no longer employed when I talk to them.
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Humphreys posted:I actually used the words 'this is affecting production' in an email this morning I received yet another ticket that said that it was affecting patient care. Problem is, the idiot at the helpdesk didn't page it out, so I didn't find out until I got back to my desk and hour later. Luckily, it was from the director of Radiology who is very understanding and does his best to stay on our good side since he doesn't have a PACS admin and relies on us a lot for issues in his department (despite none of us having any type of PACS training). I also like to help him out as I've been thinking of getting in to that field, so it's a good learning experience. ^^ poo poo, that sucks. That wasn't Google that pulled that poo poo on you, was it (If memory serves, you were in the process of getting another job there)? TWBalls fucked around with this message at 03:37 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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No, this was the MSP I've been at since July. Google declined to interview me.
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Powdered Toast Man posted:It shouldn't be this way in a country where we have laws like ADA to supposedly protect us, but I'm putting this out here so that others can benefit from my experience: I'll confirm how this happens. A few years ago when i was in support, I had a manager that declined to hire someone that was deaf. "He can't work the phones as well, so we cant hire him." Never mind he was an excellent candidate, one of the better ones i'd seen, and hell, he was good enough he'd have gotten thrown into tier 2 right away which was very little phone support, whch could ahve easily been done over instant messanger or email with anyone. That manager has been since demoted and nobody works well with him because he's a jerk, but still. ITs true
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Hey boss, it is kind of your job to call out our client's sexist employee who refuses to listen to my female colleague on technical matters she is the most qualified to deal with. I don't really appreciate having you send the problem my way so I can "put a man's answer on it". And if you do that I will ABSOLUTELY call the fucker out for it on your behalf, and I'll do it as impolitely as I think I can get away with.
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door.jar posted:Hey boss, it is kind of your job to call out our client's sexist employee who refuses to listen to my female colleague on technical matters she is the most qualified to deal with. I don't really appreciate having you send the problem my way so I can "put a man's answer on it". And if you do that I will ABSOLUTELY call the fucker out for it on your behalf, and I'll do it as impolitely as I think I can get away with. This is shockingly common, unfortunately. It's disgusting but often people think it's better to cater to the retrograde whims of the client lest they lose the business.
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My accomplishment of the week: Making one of the network engineers laugh out loud on a call and not hitting mute fast enough. We are dealing with a difficult customer. (Why can't you give me what I want vs what I ask for? Read my mind!) They are basically too dumb to use the vpn, so they want access inbound to all their servers, for snmp, mssql, etc. We are trying to lock down the access, but it looks like we're just going to need to permit any-any because we can't get any details. We are trying to nail down access lists, and I PM'd him one he needed to consider. code:
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I am like 40% sure my 486 DX2 had a lovely heat sink clipped over it and I know for sure my K6 did. Did the Pentium really not need a heat sink?
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thebigcow posted:I am like 40% sure my 486 DX2 had a lovely heat sink clipped over it and I know for sure my K6 did. Did the Pentium really not need a heat sink? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv22eaAkDZQ
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Heatsinks appeared around the mid-486 era. The low-end models didn't really need one but sometimes had one fitted anyway. The faster 486s would normally have one (usually just a heatsink though - no fan). Pretty sure even the slowest Pentiums needed a heatsink, but the sticker probably wasn't enough of a thermal barrier to cause problems.
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I had a case fan and it provided enough air flow for my 486DX2 Overclocked to 133MHZ to work just fine thank you very much. 
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"This is a production issue." They're all production issues.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:"This is a production issue."
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Sweevo posted:Heatsinks appeared around the mid-486 era. The low-end models didn't really need one but sometimes had one fitted anyway. The faster 486s would normally have one (usually just a heatsink though - no fan). I had a 100Mhz 486-DX4 with a tiny heatsink and fan. That fucker was speedy.
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That Pentium CPU is worth a fair bit,due to the gold content in it. Around 20 dollars according to :http://www.ozcopper.com/computer-cpu-gold-yields/
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gently caress printers. Why the gently caress can't these massive MFC units give you any useful error information? Doesn't matter what the problem is, all it will say is that it failed. Oh gee, thanks.
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Johnny Aztec posted:That Pentium CPU is worth a fair bit,due to the gold content in it. Around 20 dollars according to :http://www.ozcopper.com/computer-cpu-gold-yields/ Hm, so I thought I'd check ebay. If you look up Pentium Pro, sure enough, they're flagged as being for gold recovery. Oh well, people know.
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Inspector_666 posted:gently caress printers. The two Toshibas we've had like to give numerical error codes without providing a list of what they mean. It took some searching to find out that 0050 on a fax meant busy signal, everything else meant a line condition problem.
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HalloKitty posted:Hm, so I thought I'd check ebay. If you look up Pentium Pro, sure enough, they're flagged as being for gold recovery. Oh well, people know. Yeaaaah, you aren't likely going to find any deals on ebay. However, I always keep my eye out for ancient PCs at yard sales/flea markets, but they are usually Slot P2s, if I find anything that old at all. And there was a post here, or in the other thread about trying to get hard drive magnets, and some place threw out a ton of hard drive chassis. Those things are aluminum and while not as pricy as gold, is still valuable. I have a heatsink out of an old G4 print server that is a solid two pounds.
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thebigcow posted:The two Toshibas we've had like to give numerical error codes without providing a list of what they mean. It took some searching to find out that 0050 on a fax meant busy signal, everything else meant a line condition problem. Ahhh, so that's what it means. I usually tell people the codes are either "OK" for "OK" and "anything else" for "hosed". (Well, a work-safe equivalent - unlike Medical Records, I don't turn the air blue*.) * Unless I'm certain I'm not being overheard, because that poo poo-eating dog-loving cock-jockey assdribble loving TOSHIBA SHITBOX is acting per usual. (I was spoiled by my time in the plastics plant - not only did the people who would care about foul language rarely come out to the production floor, but those decrepit injection-mold boat anchors really deserved every curse they got, and then some. I don't think I ever saw any hire or temp last a week before going all NC-17 on one.)
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Johnny Aztec posted:Yeaaaah, you aren't likely going to find any deals on ebay. It wasn't so much that I was looking for deals there, it's more that I was interested to see if it was a thing on ebay, and it did not disappoint.
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Zamboni Apocalypse posted:Ahhh, so that's what it means. I usually tell people the codes are either "OK" for "OK" and "anything else" for "hosed". (Well, a work-safe equivalent - unlike Medical Records, I don't turn the air blue*.) If you need the useless manuals for the thing check the Toshiba Australia website.
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It's pretty amusing to me how this thread (and those that came before) always come back to one thing. gently caress ALL PRINTERS FOREVER. gently caress THEM BAD.
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PC load letter? What the gently caress does that mean?! We were discussing having a piñata for the kids at our Xmas party and someone suggested stringing up a printer for the adults
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I work in the pettiest environment. Had to move our monitors showing the calls coming into the helpdesk so other groups can't see them. One of them has been taking cell phone pictures and sending them to the CIO because they think we're not doing enough. We have 400 calls come in a day, there's 5 of us on the phones. And we actually troubleshoot and work, we close the majority of those tickets at first level.
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Misogynist posted:Every Socket 7 system I ever used shipped with one, but the lower-clocked models (60/75/90 MHz) seemed to do just fine without. The higher-clocked ones (166 MHz+) often ran fine without them, but would get hot enough to literally fry things on: Early prototypes of phase-change coolers.
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Ahahahah, gently caress, Toshiba strikes again. The magical "automated toner order" service apparently fired up recently, as our Facilities department just received a cyan, a red and another black cart.  This is the second black cart that I was supposed to get from my last order over a month back, I guess. (And the 2 color carts, of course, are yet again "more poo poo I already have in stock and don't need more of". Seriously, we're now 2 years on the original color toners that came with the new machine. And Toshiba *keeps* *sending* *more*.)Anyway, BS'ing with the crew over there, and we notice there's black toner leaking out of the box.  I cut the factory tape, pop the lid open, and......the little sliding tab that prevents toner from leaking out until the cart is loaded? Yeah, connected to the pull-tab strip, and otherwise hanging loose on top of the cart.  QA Crewe Represent  The cart (hell, the box itself) is otherwise undamaged. I'm thinking I just got lucky and got one of the last ones sent out pre-Labor Day weekend or something.
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