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The flipside is that when a customer DOES get into the workshop, you CANNOT kick them out. It's impossible. Because they are old and instead of rebuffing you like normal people they just plain old ignore you. *geriatric guy clambering around the subframe I just took out of his car, surrounded by puddles of atf and coolant* "Hey excuse me, you really shouldn't be in here." "I know. *continues poking around*" "Hey please stop touching my tools. Really, you can't be in here. It's illegal." "I know I know *continues doing his thing*" Eventually I just went and shouted at my boss who, with the reluctance of a planet shifting orbits, came and tried to talk the guy away. This happens on a weekly basis and I just want to scream at them to gently caress off.
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I decided I didn't have enough pain in my life working on computers or cars and now I'm an embedded systems engineer for an automotive/aerospace company. Just kidding, it's the most fun I've ever had at work.
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Those who think working in IT could possibly be worse than working manual labor in an un-air-conditioned place have never worked in Florida. I loved being an R & D machinist but man when its 100*F and 85% humidity and things are running behind, you cant help but get angry at everyone.
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Nov 21, 2013 07:14
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What the gently caress is this office inside a coal mine or something?
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Nov 21, 2013 07:50
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Factory computers just look like that two days after going into production. I've seen worse too: An ancient Windows 98 machine I had to replace with a Windows XP machine in a metalworking facility because the hardware attached to it required a serial port and wasn't compatible with anything newer. Opened it up and the entire insides were coated in a layer of black dust and particles. It was almost like someone spray-painted the entire thing. Of course, the new machine didn't come with a serial port, and when I called up the software manufacturer they were happy to inform me that that software package had been out of use for over a decade, and they were currently on the third new platform since that time, but would also require an upgrade of the machine connected to it quoted at a few thousand euros. Ended up getting it to work with a cheap USB-Serial adapter and just copying over the old program's installation.
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Nov 21, 2013 09:34
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Smoke posted:Ended up getting it to work with a cheap USB-Serial adapter and just copying over the old program's installation. What'd you do when that didn't work? 
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Nov 21, 2013 09:38
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Try fixing a laser printer that's spent the last 5 years on the production line of a marzipan factory. Melted and baked-on sugar and almond dust. Everywhere.
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Nov 21, 2013 09:47
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West SAAB Story posted:What'd you do when that didn't work? It did work, that's the fun part, all I had to do was configure the adapter properly and configure the application properly. Despite being cheap, the adapter was reasonably robust and well-supported, which is a rarity with those things(We had another batch from a different brand for another client that we spent hours on to get them to work, until we replaced them with that model) This was late 2008 if I recall correctly.
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Nov 21, 2013 09:58
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Smoke posted:It did work, that's the fun part After a handful of USB->RS232 adaptors that I spent days on, I entirely stopped taking calls for assistance, and just said "Buy the expensive one and pray." Either that worked, or didn't.   
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Nov 21, 2013 10:23
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Smoke posted:It did work, that's the fun part, all I had to do was configure the adapter properly and configure the application properly. Despite being cheap, the adapter was reasonably robust and well-supported, which is a rarity with those things(We had another batch from a different brand for another client that we spent hours on to get them to work, until we replaced them with that model) This was late 2008 if I recall correctly. Always, always, always buy FTDI based usb/serial adapters, gently caress the pl2303 based ones. loving horrible drivers for them.
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Slavvy posted:The flipside is that when a customer DOES get into the workshop, you CANNOT kick them out. It's impossible. Because they are old and instead of rebuffing you like normal people they just plain old ignore you. Your workplace really needs to invest in an rfid badge system or something; if someone gets in there and slips they're going to get sued into oblivion.
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Nov 21, 2013 15:57
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kastein posted:I decided I didn't have enough pain in my life working on computers or cars and now I'm an embedded systems engineer for an automotive/aerospace company. God damnit you are doing exactly what I dream about doing while I pretend to do work at my mechanical support job at a chemical plant  I wish I could take pictures here. This place is rusting the gently caress apart and the amount of rust and horrible failures makes me jaded. We just had a 120" cooling tower fan blow up and launch itself into the air a couple weeks ago.
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Back in 2005 I worked on a project replacing the token ring network in an Owens-Illnois glass factory with ethernet and the PCBs on the workstations in the hot side of the factory were so brittle that trying to install a new NIC snapped the motherboards in half in at least a half dozen cases.
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The funny thing is that industrial computer systems stopped being totally bad once we got into SSDs and Intel's Core/Atom series, so you'd have a lifetime sealed computer with no moving parts that uses a 12V brick...that blows up all the time. Some thing never change.
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KozmoNaut posted:Try fixing a laser printer that's spent the last 5 years on the production line of a marzipan factory. Wanna lick that printer.
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Nov 21, 2013 17:13
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rscott posted:Back in 2005 I worked on a project replacing the token ring network in an Owens-Illnois glass factory with ethernet and the PCBs on the workstations in the hot side of the factory were so brittle that trying to install a new NIC snapped the motherboards in half in at least a half dozen cases. My first IT project was replacing token ring networks. Goddamn token ring was some pretty metal tech, especially the newer system that had physical relays in the hub to keep the ring unbroken.
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DJ Commie posted:The funny thing is that industrial computer systems stopped being totally bad once we got into SSDs and Intel's Core/Atom series, so you'd have a lifetime sealed computer with no moving parts that uses a 12V brick...that blows up all the time. At least 12V bricks are cheap, plentiful and easy to replace.
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:My first IT project was replacing token ring networks. Goddamn token ring was some pretty metal tech, especially the newer system that had physical relays in the hub to keep the ring unbroken. A lot of aircraft systems (1553) utilize basically the same thing.
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:My first IT project was replacing token ring networks. Goddamn token ring was some pretty metal tech, especially the newer system that had physical relays in the hub to keep the ring unbroken. Heh, I remember helping PBR (Australian Brake Manufacturer) move their computer system from the IBM Token Ring Network to Ethernet
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KozmoNaut posted:Try fixing a laser printer that's spent the last 5 years on the production line of a marzipan factory. Ohhh man i bet that printer smelled amazing.
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D C posted:Ohhh man i bet that printer smelled amazing. First PM kit I've ever seen with insulin.
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D C posted:Ohhh man i bet that printer smelled amazing. It smelled like burning Christmas.
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 Found this on imgur. Always balance the load kids.
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Terrible Robot posted:in most shops the customer is not allowed into the shop,
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Friar Zucchini posted:Not the case in the shop I took my Taurus to in Arlington. Good shop too. They'd literally bring me in there and have me stand next to it while it was up on a lift and point out what particular parts needed to be replaced. "These are good, these are worn out, these are getting old, these are good, see how these are leaking stuff? they'll have to go..." They probably woulda let me stand right under it if I'd tried, but my guess is a lift isn't something you wanna trust if you can avoid it. Funny enough the job I had at a shop was also like that, it was a small two bay with no office so every customer got to walk right in. I spent many a smoke break showing the ones who cared the E-Type that was perpetually taking up one of the bays or explaining just what was wrong with their Rover. As long as we weren't actually trying to work on something right then I actually enjoyed talking to them. But for the most part larger and more organized shops don't let customers anywhere near the work space. Terrible Robot fucked around with this message at 13:58 on Nov 22, 2013 |
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Terrible Robot posted:Funny enough the job I had at a shop was also like that, it was a small two bay with no office so every customer got to walk right in. I spent many a smoke break showing the ones who cared the E-Type that was perpetually taking up one of the bays or explaining just what was wrong with their Rover. As long as we weren't actually trying to work on something right then I actually enjoyed talking to them. I, too worked in shops like this. Sometimes if I was doing something easy it was fine to shoot the poo poo with customers while working on cars. But if a customer wanted to watch me do sparkplugs in a ford, I got kinda pissy and told them to gently caress off to the lounge.
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Atticus_1354 posted:
As I recall the backstory is that the load was balanced, but not properly secured (big fuckoff rock on top of a pile of smaller poo poo, so it slid around and rolled/shifted the second the driver took a corner.) Somewhere around the internet there's a picture from the other side that shows it's getting some pretty awesome lowrider 3 wheel motion going, but I can't find it right now.
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So I work on cars and in IT. Except my IT specialty is network security and continuity. Firewalls, IPS, packet sniffers, Web gateways, Email gateways, DLP, VPN head-ends, load balancers, radius, DNS servers...these are the kinds of things I know well. When my PC at work breaks, I call someone. Inevitably people in my personal life have no understanding of my skills beyond "he's a computer guy" and ask me to diagnose their Windows 8 tablet infected with the latest greatest ransomware. I try to use medical analogies because I find they explain the gulf between what I do and what they're asking better. You wouldn't ask your buddy who's a podiatrist to take a look at your vag, for example.
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trouser chili posted:So I work on cars and in IT. Except my IT specialty is network security and continuity. Firewalls, IPS, packet sniffers, Web gateways, Email gateways, DLP, VPN head-ends, load balancers, radius, DNS servers...these are the kinds of things I know well. When my PC at work breaks, I call someone. Inevitably people in my personal life have no understanding of my skills beyond "he's a computer guy" and ask me to diagnose their Windows 8 tablet infected with the latest greatest ransomware. I try to use medical analogies because I find they explain the gulf between what I do and what they're asking better. You wouldn't ask your buddy who's a podiatrist to take a look at your vag, for example. I do both, and I know how you feel. Usually my response now days is: Format it. It makes people angry, but I'm not going to invest the time to actually hunt down, isolate, and clean all their infections for them to only get reinfected in a short time because they stopped using the installation of Chrome I installed and switched back to Internet Explorer and visited a questionable site. During my time as a Sys Admin for a hospital, we had multiple calls for 'Hey, my machine isn't working' only to find out a doctor had brought a wireless router or access point in to work and plugged it in, fully aware that this was wrong and we had MAC filtering, so of course the instant they plugged it in, the switch saw it and killed the port. I can't believe how many times I had to re-read the Network User agreement to people with PhDs in medicine.
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trouser chili posted:Inevitably people in my personal life have no understanding of my skills beyond "he's a computer guy" and ask me to diagnose their Windows 8 tablet infected with the latest greatest ransomware. I am a network engineer. I have started telling people "if it's not 19 inches wide and costs at least as much as a new midrange luxury car I don't know how to fix it." This confuses them enough that they stop asking.
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Motronic posted:I am a network engineer. I have started telling people "if it's not 19 inches wide and costs at least as much as a new midrange luxury car I don't know how to fix it." I'm a Desktop Support guy, in that same vein I don't know how to work the specialised software they have here. I'll fix your desktop, but don't look at me strange when I tell you I don't know how to work SAP when you need help formatting a report.
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Nobody should look at anyone strangely when they say they don't know how to work SAP because SAP is a loving mess.
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Horrible mechanical failures, not horrible IT failures. Take it to the misc thread or try your chances in YOSPOS. The trail of ATF my GMC's 700R4 left in 2004 when it decided to gently caress off this mortal coil. Why yes, I am digging through ancient digital photos to keep content going in these threads, why do you ask? 
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 The story I got with this picture was that the owner drove his '30s hot rod to a drag-strip, did some passes, and drove it home. Three weeks later he happened to look under the car and well, there you go. e; holy loving tables, Batman
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Terrible Robot posted:
MON TABLES e: you fixed it
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This should qualify on the grounds that failure is inevitable.kastein posted:Holy hell I want to know what this idiot was smoking.  
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For those not familiar with Cherokee suspension, that is where this moron has taken two stock lower control arms (which locate the front axle under the vehicle and handle braking forces on pavement and braking+acceleration forces with 4x4 engaged) and chopped them both in half, then half assedly stuck one over the other and booger welded along the seam to make a longer control arm to handle the suspension lift. Cherokee lower control arms are something like 10ga pressed sheetmetal from the factory. And he's relying on one spattery line of boogers to keep them from folding up when he hits the brakes That is far from being the worst transgression, too.
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kastein posted:For those not familiar with Cherokee suspension, that is where this moron has taken two stock lower control arms (which locate the front axle under the vehicle and handle braking forces on pavement and braking+acceleration forces with 4x4 engaged) and chopped them both in half, then half assedly stuck one over the other and booger welded along the seam to make a longer control arm to handle the suspension lift. Don't forget his winning personality. Moron posted:ok, I guess i'll close the stupid thread. You guys are loving LOOSERS!! always wanting to bash people with their stuff. its my jeep, my build, i'm happy with it, like the looks and gently caress OFF if you don't.
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Can some kind person upload his pictures and post them? I can't see any of them, on the computer or phone. The picture posted has so much wrong it took a minute to notice the control arms, and now I really want to see the rest of this abomination. Also I loving love it when kastein tears awful hack jobs apart.
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I, too, was staring at the springs and wondering what I was looking at. And then I saw kastein's post, saw the control arm(s?) and literally said "oh my god". He might as well superglued those things together for how well they're going to hold up. He says he has a "death wobble". Apt words...
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