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Vasler
Feb 17, 2004
Greetings Earthling! Do you have any Zoom Boots?

The Joe Man posted:

I just ordered an Ultrasharp; where can I see the little revision number and which one do I want/not want (assuming A00)?

The revision number and manufacturing date will be on the back of the panel. It might not be a big deal though. I mean, the most likely explanation in my case is that I was just unlucky and received two bad monitors. I'm sure yours will be fine. It really is a fantastic monitor.

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Zorilla
Mar 23, 2005

GOING APE SPIT

The Joe Man posted:

I just ordered an Ultrasharp; where can I see the little revision number and which one do I want/not want (assuming A00)?

On the back near the serial number and service tag (applicable only to 27" and up). The later the revision, the better.

Edit: beaten. Though my experience with customer service has been decidedly different. I had to replace my U2412M three times and I'm about to receive my fifth U2713HM sometime next week. All the previous ones have been worse than the last in one way or another and had no business being categorized as certified factory refurbs.

Zorilla fucked around with this message at 22:28 on Nov 30, 2013

The Joe Man
Apr 7, 2007

Flirting With Apathetic Waitresses Since 1984
Oh okay, cool. This is the one I ordered so maybe it's not even applicable: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005JN9310

Really curious to how my Sceptre Naga II will look next to it. If it's not terrible it'll be really nice to have my audio production software on one and the script on the other.

moostaffa
Apr 2, 2008

People always ask me about Toad, It's fantastic. Let me tell you about Toad. I do very well with Toad. I love Toad. No one loves Toad more than me, BELIEVE ME. Toad loves me. I have the best Toad.
So I'm building a new PC with a GTX 770 GFX card, but I'm torn on the monitor side. Should I get one Dell U2713HM or two Dell U2412M?

moostaffa fucked around with this message at 18:54 on Dec 1, 2013

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.
Guess what leaked.

Dell U2414Q - 24" IPS 4K monitor with wide-gamut support to 99% AdobeRGB.

Yip Yips
Sep 25, 2007
yip-yip-yip-yip-yip
A 24" 4k monitor seems weird. Won't there be problems with text/UI size?

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Yip Yips posted:

A 24" 4k monitor seems weird. Won't there be problems with text/UI size?

Yea, that does seem extreme? You could probably make it scale but 24" is awfully small.

DarkJC
Jul 6, 2010
Could be more useful for Macs which have good support for high DPI displays already.

Guni
Mar 11, 2010

Factory Factory posted:

Guess what leaked.

Dell U2414Q - 24" IPS 4K monitor with wide-gamut support to 99% AdobeRGB.

Along these lines, Dell already has a 32" 4k monitor available, would if be likely that the 32" would be more or less expensive than the 24?

Guni fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Dec 1, 2013

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

Factory Factory posted:

Guess what leaked.

Dell U2414Q - 24" IPS 4K monitor with wide-gamut support to 99% AdobeRGB.

Dear Dell, 27" model please.

HalloKitty
Sep 30, 2005

Adjust the bass and let the Alpine blast

El Scotch posted:

Dear Dell, 27" model please.

But then if you went for 200% scaling as at 24" is clearly intended, you'd end up with that 1920x1080 27" monitor people love to bash.

Seems like the 27 should be even higher res..

It's still the wrong ratio. Eh.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

HalloKitty posted:

But then if you went for 200% scaling as at 24" is clearly intended, you'd end up with that 1920x1080 27" monitor people love to bash.

Seems like the 27 should be even higher res..

It's still the wrong ratio. Eh.

Touché.

On second thought, Dell, reduce the price of the 30" model. :sun:

Jam2
Jan 15, 2008

With Energy For Mayhem
Has anyone seen a price?

oxy
May 14, 2008
Dell Ultra Sharp U2412M or XL2420TE for the PS4/Computer?

Or any other recommendations. I would like a 1440p but my card and ps4 wouldnt be able to take advantage of it.

Thoughts?

dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


BenQ XL2420TE is TN. gently caress a TN.

It might be useful if you're doing 120Hz but if your card can't do 1440p it isn't up for 120Hz 1080p either.

The U2412M is a bad fit for game consoles because it doesn't have either a source-aspect or 16:9 ratio option so anything will be stretched an extra 11% vertically (this is way more noticeable than it sounds).

U2312HM is native 1080p rather than 1920x1200, but otherwise pretty much a U2412M, and usually right around (and frequently under) 200 bucks. EDIT: You'll need to arrange alternate sound output for your PS4 (probably a powered TOSLINK to RCA and/or TRS converter) - and an HDMI or DVI switch if your computer isn't native DisplayPort (because VGA is distasteful, and often not even converter-available on this year's video cards) - but it's worth a shot.

dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 01:00 on Dec 2, 2013

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
On a technical level, what prevents IPS screens from commonly having refresh above 60hz? I have a $90 Dell S-series IPS and managed to use the Nvidia control panel to clock it to 66hz before it said no mas. Are cookie cutter 120hz on the horizon?

GokieKS
Dec 15, 2012

Mostly Harmless.
The ASUS PA248Q would be a better option than the U2412M (as it has 1:1 mode), and can often be found for around the same price in US.

nrr
Jan 2, 2007

Roughly how much do you have to spend to get a card/s that'll be able to take advantage and do justice to a 4k monitor at the moment? And how long do you guys think it'll be before that sort of tech will be "affordable?" I just got a 290 on the recommendation of this thread, and I'm kind of curious as to whether it'd be worth while upgrading my monitor, or leaving it till next time around. I'm not exactly sure what the 290 is capable of powering above 1980x1080 to be honest.

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.
The R9-290/290X is the best 4K res card going. It still takes two in CrossFire to really run things at good detail settings, though.

Happy_Misanthrope
Aug 3, 2007

"I wanted to kill you, go to your funeral, and anyone who showed up to mourn you, I wanted to kill them too."

DarkJC posted:

Could be more useful for Macs which have good support for high DPI displays already.

Win 8.1 DPI's scaling is not as flawless as OSX (an understatement), but it's worlds better than Win7.

nrr
Jan 2, 2007

Factory Factory posted:

The R9-290/290X is the best 4K res card going. It still takes two in CrossFire to really run things at good detail settings, though.

Cool. What sort of power would I need to run two of those in crossfire? I managed to pick up a Seasonic SS-760 X2 cheap with the 290, but I'm not quite sure whether that alone would do the trick. Also, I've got an ASUS PZ77-M mobo, I'm guessing I'd have to upgrade there to crossfire two 290s, right? Anything in particular you'd reccomend?

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.
No motherboard upgrade required, and the PSU *should* handle the load if the rest of your system is fairly standard and you don't overclock the cards much.

nrr
Jan 2, 2007

Good news, thanks a lot man. There has to be some sort of bottleneck in my system though, how about my i5 3570K? It just feels too perfect to be able to just make that big of a jump that easily.

Whoops ok, so I forgot for a second that I'm not in the GPU thread. What do you guys recommend in the way of a 4k monitor at the moment and do we know of any decent deals going on tomorrow?

Factory Factory
Mar 19, 2010

This is what
Arcane Velocity was like.
Your system is maybe a year old. You want bad news? How about "There are no reasonably priced 60 Hz 4K monitors on the market yet." Maybe the U2414Q will change that, but for now, you've got 30 Hz 4K TVs from Seiki and not much else for under two grand.

KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
Jul 7, 2012

I get the sense that everyone is just waiting for Apple to act on marketing 4k monitors to consumers so they don't have to.

nrr
Jan 2, 2007

Factory Factory posted:

Your system is maybe a year old. You want bad news? How about "There are no reasonably priced 60 Hz 4K monitors on the market yet." Maybe the U2414Q will change that, but for now, you've got 30 Hz 4K TVs from Seiki and not much else for under two grand.

haha, no I'm not looking for bad news. More in disbelief that all the news is so good. I guess the silver lining of that "bad news" is that my wallet gets a break for a while. Thanks for all the info though.

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Factory Factory posted:

Guess what leaked.

Dell U2414Q - 24" IPS 4K monitor with wide-gamut support to 99% AdobeRGB.

yes. gently caress YES. Waiting for a 24inch 4K.

Yip Yips
Sep 25, 2007
yip-yip-yip-yip-yip

incoherent posted:

yes. gently caress YES. Waiting for a 24inch 4K.

Out of curiosity, why?

incoherent
Apr 24, 2004

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Largely for the amount of limited real, physical work space I have. I maxed out at two 24inches, and i'm areosnapping and taking advantage of software (multi-virtual desktops) as much as I can to get enough desktop in.

This wouldn't be for my home.

Apoffys
Sep 5, 2011
Looking to get a new monitor for my father (so no games etc, just text and a bit of video editing) with a $400-500 budget (in Norway, so prices are slightly higher than US). He'd like a 27" screen, but it seems the good ones are quite a bit more expensive than that. Can anyone recommend a decent 27" or good 24" for under $500? I'm guessing it has to be IPS? The computer is a few years old, but since he's not going to be doing any gaming, it can hopefully handle the higher resolution.

Guni
Mar 11, 2010

Apoffys posted:

Looking to get a new monitor for my father (so no games etc, just text and a bit of video editing) with a $400-500 budget (in Norway, so prices are slightly higher than US). He'd like a 27" screen, but it seems the good ones are quite a bit more expensive than that. Can anyone recommend a decent 27" or good 24" for under $500? I'm guessing it has to be IPS? The computer is a few years old, but since he's not going to be doing any gaming, it can hopefully handle the higher resolution.

Any 27" you get will be 1920x1080 and depending on his eye sight may be awesome or terrible (awesome if he has crappyish eye sight, as the pixels will be bigger, but poo poo if he has good eye sight, as they will be bigger). If a 27" isn't what you want then I'd look to a Dell U2412M or ASUS PB248Q

PST
Jul 5, 2012

If only Milliband had eaten a vegan sausage roll instead of a bacon sandwich, we wouldn't be in this mess.
Dell europe have the new P2314H down to £153 which makes it comparable in price to the u2312. There aren't any good comparisons between the two yet, and TFTCentral haven't reviewed the p23 but they have done the p24 ( http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_p2414h.htm ).

I think the p2314h and u2312 should be roughly comparable, though we don't get the ridiculously cheap cost for both that customers in the US have.

http://accessories.euro.dell.com/sn...k=baynoteSearch

Apoffys
Sep 5, 2011
Ok, thanks. Might want to get a "bad" 27" then, as his eyesight isn't that good. What 27" 1920x1080 is decent? Asus 27" LED MX279H maybe?

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

In more news apparently Dell has a 28" 4k screen on the way for around $1000 or so. Unlike the other 4ks it won't be an Ultrasharp.

LtStorm
Aug 8, 2010

You'll pay for this, Shady Shrew!


Found this LG 27EA33V for $190 on NewEgg. It's 27", but 1920x1080; I've seen some comments on the past pages about a monitor that size at 1080p instead of 1440p looks terrible. How terrible would this look, just a bit less nice than actual 1440p on that sized monitor, or is it going to make video games I play look noticeably worse?

I'm not particularly concerned about the panel type, but it seemed to be one of the better priced monitors of that size on NewEgg even if it claims to be IPS instead of TN.

fookolt
Mar 13, 2012

Where there is power
There is resistance

El Scotch posted:

In more news apparently Dell has a 28" 4k screen on the way for around $1000 or so. Unlike the other 4ks it won't be an Ultrasharp.

I thought it was a 24"? Or is this in addition to the 24"?

Gwaihir
Dec 8, 2009
Hair Elf

fookolt posted:

I thought it was a 24"? Or is this in addition to the 24"?

In addition to!

fookolt
Mar 13, 2012

Where there is power
There is resistance

Gwaihir posted:

In addition to!

gently caress, that is going to look all sorts of silly next to a 30" :(

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

fookolt posted:

I thought it was a 24"? Or is this in addition to the 24"?

in addition

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Yip Yips
Sep 25, 2007
yip-yip-yip-yip-yip
Ouch, $1400 for the 24".

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