Cream_Filling posted:

Why do you hate visibility/necks Ford?

G-Mach posted:

Welcome to new cars these days. Having a large greenhouse isn't good for the new crash tests.

pik_d posted:

I wish I lived in the timeline where Scotty invented transparent aluminum and saved the whales.

Xguard86 posted:

They're building that boondoggle fighter jet with a bunch of cameras and an Occulus Rift like helmet to make the plane transparent to the pilot.

I don't think it works reliably and costs a billion dollars but hey, maybe they'll perfect it just in time for the self driving flying car to make the point moot.

Xguard86 posted:

They're building that boondoggle fighter jet with a bunch of cameras and an Occulus Rift like helmet to make the plane transparent to the pilot.

I don't think it works reliably and costs a billion dollars but hey, maybe they'll perfect it just in time for the self driving flying car to make the point moot.

G-Mach posted:

Welcome to new cars these days. Having a large greenhouse isn't good for the new crash tests.

SouthLAnd posted:

Between the Mustang, Camaro, and Challenger; the current Mustang has really good visibility. I would say it's not noticeably worse than most family sedans. I really hope Ford has maintained that quality with the new car.

edit: Reposting from the 'Stang thread:

I love how quickly the roofline tapers down and how pronounced the trunk looks in that picture. It looks like an honest to god fastback again.

The Midniter posted:

Sure, a loving Acura crossover or some poo poo.

Also next year the BTCC Honda team will be running some awesome-looking Civic wagon body styles.

PeterWeller posted:

A ZDX Type R with SH-AWD might be pretty rad actually.


The new Mustang looks pretty good. I knew it wouldn't measure up to the gorgeous C/D "leak", but it's close enough.

Too bad someone had to go post that awesome helmet and draw all my attention away from it.

Throatwarbler posted:

A ZDX is a fastback MDX. The MDX is a 3 row minivan. To make either of those cars interesting would require a very big engine indeed.

donut posted:

I suspected the Mustang's profile would look more appealing if not for the distortion due to the fold in the magazine and the perspective distortion, so I took the liberty of smoothing it out in photoshop.



Much better. Looks a lot less like a Z or that Accord now that it's been lengthened out to its presumed actual proportions.

Snowdens Secret posted:

That was my guess, reverse GIS confirms


The concept also has about a foot less car behind the rear axle, I wonder if it was impossible to pull off and maintain crash standards.

Throatwarbler posted:

So more details have been revealed on the new Mustang.

http://www.autoblog.com/2013/12/05/2015-ford-mustang-official-photos-reveal-info/

New Features for 2015:

- HVAC knobs for MyFordTouch. Like a Chrysler!

TheMadMilkman posted:

Whoever took pictures of that magazine really did the car a disservice. Having seen the official shots, I really like it. Can't wait to see it in person next year.

quote:

Opel/Vauxhall to compete as GM’s mainstream brands across Europe
Chevrolet to focus on iconic products in Europe
Cadillac to expand in Europe
DETROIT – General Motors today announced plans to accelerate its progress in Europe by bolstering its brands in the mainstream and premium segments.

Beginning in 2016, GM will compete in Europe’s volume markets under its respected Opel and Vauxhall brands. The company’s Chevrolet brand will no longer have a mainstream presence in Western and Eastern Europe, largely due to a challenging business model and the difficult economic situation in Europe.

Chevrolet, the fourth-largest global automotive brand, will instead tailor its presence to offering select iconic vehicles – such as the Corvette – in Western and Eastern Europe, and will continue to have a broad presence in Russia and the Commonwealth of Independent States.

This will improve the Opel and Vauxhall brands and reduce the market complexity associated with having Opel and Chevrolet in Western and Eastern Europe. In Russia and the CIS, the brands are clearly defined and distinguished and, as a result, are more competitive within their respective segments.

Cadillac, which is finalizing plans for expanding in the European market, will enhance and expand its distribution network over the next three years as it prepares for numerous product introductions.

“Europe is a key region for GM that will benefit from a stronger Opel and Vauxhall and further emphasis on Cadillac,” said GM Chairman and CEO Dan Akerson. “For Chevrolet, it will allow us to focus our investments where the opportunity for growth is greatest.”

“This is a win for all four brands. It’s especially positive for car buyers throughout Europe, who will be able to purchase vehicles from well-defined, vibrant GM brands,” Akerson said.

Chevrolet will work closely with its dealer network in Western and Eastern Europe to define future steps while ensuring it can honor obligations to existing customers in the coming years.

“Our customers can rest assured that we will continue to provide warranty, parts and services for their Chevrolet vehicles, and for vehicles purchased between now and the end of 2015,” said Thomas Sedran, president and managing director of Chevrolet Europe. “We want to thank our customers and dealers for their loyalty to the Chevrolet brand here in Europe.”

The majority of the Chevrolet portfolio sold in Western and Eastern Europe is produced in South Korea. As a result, GM will increase its focus on driving profitability, managing costs and maximizing sales opportunities in its Korean operations as the company looks for new ways to improve business results in the fast-changing and highly competitive global business environment.

“We will continue to become more competitive in Korea,” said GM Korea President and CEO Sergio Rocha. “In doing so, we will position ourselves for long-term competitiveness and sustainability in the best interests of our employees, customers and stakeholders, while remaining a significant contributor to GM’s global business.”

With the decision that Chevrolet will no longer have a mainstream presence in Western and Eastern Europe, GM expects to record net special charges of $700 million to $1 billion primarily in the fourth quarter of 2013 and continuing through the first half of 2014. The special charges include asset impairments, dealer restructuring, sales incentives and severance-related costs, and will pave the way for continued improvement in GM’s European operations through the further strengthening of the Opel and Vauxhall brands. Approximately $300 million of the net special charges will be non-cash expenses. In addition, GM expects to incur restructuring costs related to these actions that will not be treated as special charges, but will impact GM International Operations earnings in 2014.
About General Motors Co.
General Motors Co. (NYSE:GM, TSX: GMM) and its partners produce vehicles in 30 countries, and the company has leadership positions in the world's largest and fastest-growing automotive markets. GM, its subsidiaries and joint venture entities sell vehicles under the Chevrolet, Cadillac, Baojun, Buick, GMC, Holden, Isuzu, Jiefang, Opel, Vauxhall and Wuling brands. More information on the company and its subsidiaries, including OnStar, a global leader in vehicle safety, security and information services, can be found at http://www.gm.com.
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Cream_Filling posted:

- 2.3-liter EcoBoost four-cylinder engine

TheMadMilkman posted:

Throatwarbler posted:

Throatwarbler posted:

Well here's what it looks like with no roof.

Snowdens Secret posted:

What are the odds this shares anything with older Ford or maybe Mazda 2.3s? And any idea how square the bore/stroke is? I'm not finding anything with the Google.

PCOS Bill posted:

I haven't wanted a Ford product since I was 10 and wanted my dad's classic Mustangs, and I want one of these in that red, manual, with the 2.3 ecoboost.

Guess I need to start saving toward a down payment.

Throatwarbler posted:

Remember a few years ago when GM introduced Chevrolet into Europe to compete with Opel/Vauxhall because why not? Well after pissing billions of dollars down the drain they
ve realized it was a dumb idea and are just going to give up and go back to square one.

travisray2004 posted:

I don't know how I feel about the new 'Stang. I really want to love it and technically-speaking I do as it's just more of everything great, but that front end....it just rubs me the wrong way. Like mentioned before, it's a lot of Taurus. Maybe too much.

Cream_Filling posted:

Considering the typical aftermarket for mustangs, I'd expect plenty of alternatives to hit the market soon. And also it will probably be refreshed in a few years anyway.