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Supreme Allah posted:Wade Barrett. I thought it was awesome when he sidelined Orton by tossing him down a flight of stairs. It felt like it had real blood feud potential. Then nothing ever came of it.
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magnum_valentino posted:There's an episode of Smackdown from 2001 that someone has stuck on Youtube in apparent HD. He's also edited some of the music. Here it is. Standalone DVD recorders started becoming A Thing around 2000. So it's possible he recorded it straight from a cable/satellite feed to disc.
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What happened to Teddy Long, is he just sticking to sometimes being on the JBL and Cole show now or something? I miss him, playa.
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Something also to consider is that WWE wanted Shelton and Carlito to be upper-tier guys and main eventers. The only problem was Shelton and Carlito just wanted to stay in the mid-card. They were happy with what they were doing, and didn't want to go beyond that. So of course it pissed WWE off. It's what I'll never understand about WWE. You might have a guy who's a solid worker, great on the mic, and has the fans foaming at the mouth to see him at the top (Christian in '06 immediately springs to mind). But if the WWE has decided that "we say you're a midcarder, stop trying so hard", the guy won't be given a chance. But they'll waste numerous opportunities on guys who don't want the push they're trying to give them. Also, the whole "Shelton's Mama" thing was racist.
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Davros1 posted:Also, the whole "Shelton's Mama" thing was racist. I'd like to think Vince saw one of Tyler Perry's shows/movies, and decided that was what Shelton was missing: ridiculous stereotypes.
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Red posted:I'd like to think Vince saw one of Tyler Perry's shows/movies, and decided that was what Shelton was missing: ridiculous stereotypes. Vince was all about ridiculous stereotypes long before Perry came along. Saba Simba. "It means Seven Lions!"
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There's no way Vince has seen a movie that recent now, let alone eight years ago.
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What was behind the decision to go from Bikertaker back to the Undertaker in 2004?
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Vince loves the gimmick and it sells more PPVs. About it. Taker would have stayed Bikertaker forever if he could.
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Joeslop posted:Conversely, what were the most underwhelming surprised Royal Rumble returns? Have there been any where people didn't flip out? One of my biggest mark-out moments was John Cena returning as #30 in the Rotal Rumble, but after I literally jumped out of my seat at the sound of his music, and exclaimed "HOLY poo poo, HES BACK!!" to the entire pub I was watching it in, I realized that I was too drunk to remember who's music I was listening to, and shrunk into my seat when I realized it was John Cena. I hadn't heard the music in so long that I legitimately thought it was someone from the 80s or 90s that was coming out at #30 and winning the rumble.
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Diabolik900 posted:There's no way Vince has seen a movie that recent now, let alone eight years ago. Vince loves going to the movies.
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MassRafTer posted:Vince loves going to the movies. Vince hadn't heard of Jack Sparrow when the Paul Burchill pirate gimmick was pitched shortly after the original Pirates of the Caribbean came out. And that poo poo was everywhere.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Vince hadn't heard of Jack Sparrow when the Paul Burchill pirate gimmick was pitched shortly after the original Pirates of the Caribbean came out. And that poo poo was everywhere. That gimmick was Vince's idea, he saw Pirates and loved it.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Vince hadn't heard of Jack Sparrow when the Paul Burchill pirate gimmick was pitched shortly after the original Pirates of the Caribbean came out. And that poo poo was everywhere. There is also the story of him not knowing that Scott Hall was quoting Scarface.
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MassRafTer posted:Vince loves going to the movies. You don't understand! That doesn't jibe with the lay-up established LOL VINCE joke format!
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magnum_valentino posted:There's an episode of Smackdown from 2001 that someone has stuck on Youtube in apparent HD. He's also edited some of the music. Here it is. It looks like it was upscaled to HD, which had the benefit of smudging out some of the noise that was probably present on the original. It's hard to tell YT's crappy bitrate apart from artifacts in the original.
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MassRafTer posted:That gimmick was Vince's idea, he saw Pirates and loved it. Vince suggested a pirate gimmick, but not specifically a Jack Sparrow gimmick. He was expecting a more Jean-Pierre Lafitte-like character. Or at least that's the possibly bullshit story I've always heard.
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The hashtag implies that the WWE officially released it somewhere.
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magnum_valentino posted:There's an episode of Smackdown from 2001 that someone has stuck on Youtube in apparent HD. He's also edited some of the music. Here it is. Coincidentally, Test does a rainmaker clothesline like 5 minutes into this SmackDown.
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Diabolik900 posted:Vince suggested a pirate gimmick, but not specifically a Jack Sparrow gimmick. He was expecting a more Jean-Pierre Lafitte-like character. According to Court Bauer, (I think, it may have been another writer) Vince saw Pirates and loved it so much he wanted a pirate. The original rumor was that Vince didn't like the gimmick and hadn't seen the movie which made sense since it came around the time Vince discovered the music of AC/DC. It turns out that Vince actually loves going to the movies and Pirate Paul was inspired by Vince seeing that movie. The writer wasn't specific about what kind of pirate, but it seems the rumor was BS since Vince liked the movie so much.
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Frankenstein Dad posted:Coincidentally, Test does a rainmaker clothesline like 5 minutes into this SmackDown. Diabolik900 posted:Vince suggested a pirate gimmick, but not specifically a Jack Sparrow gimmick. He was expecting a more Jean-Pierre Lafitte-like character. MassRafTer posted:According to Court Bauer, (I think, it may have been another writer) Vince saw Pirates and loved it so much he wanted a pirate.
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oatgan posted:Also I think I remember reading/hearing for one of those wrestling podcasts that Vince saw Silver Linings Playbook and wanted a dancing gimmick earlier this year Holy balls 
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Something a friend asked me: Is there a particular reason that a moonsault is called a moonsault?
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Halloween Jack posted:That's just a short-arm clothesline. I dunno what a Rainmaker is, then. Does he always do it from a back bodylock?
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Cornwind Evil posted:Something a friend asked me: Is there a particular reason that a moonsault is called a moonsault? The flip is angled as such like a crescent moon.
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Suben posted:So in light of the Sin Cara deal, are there any instances of replacing a guy in a gimmick like that and having it work or having the guy actually go on to bigger success using that gimmick over the original? The second Ultimate Warrior was pretty successful after the first one died.
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Davros1 posted:Something also to consider is that WWE wanted Shelton and Carlito to be upper-tier guys and main eventers. The only problem was Shelton and Carlito just wanted to stay in the mid-card. They were happy with what they were doing, and didn't want to go beyond that. This doesn't make any sense. Why would the say they want to be mid-carders and not get pushed?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Holy balls I haven't seen the movie, I'm probably not going to anytime soon, I know it's about bipolar disorder and now I really want to know how bad this gimmick was going to be, spoiler tag if one has to.
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The Grey posted:This doesn't make any sense. Why would the say they want to be mid-carders and not get pushed? Probably for the same reason some people don't go after promotions at work. They're either happy where they are or think moving up is not worth the changes it would bring in responsibility and stress. I don't know if that's the deal here but I know lots of people like that.
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Justin Godscock posted:I haven't seen the movie, I'm probably not going to anytime soon, I know it's about bipolar disorder and now I really want to know how bad this gimmick was going to be, spoiler tag if one has to. Fandango
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Supreme Allah posted:Probably for the same reason some people don't go after promotions at work. They're either happy where they are or think moving up is not worth the changes it would bring in responsibility and stress. I don't know if that's the deal here but I know lots of people like that. They might also realize that vying for a better push won't do them any good because they'll either get poo poo on by WWE's terrible booking or buried by HHH, so they might as well just stay put.
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The Grey posted:This doesn't make any sense. Why would the say they want to be mid-carders and not get pushed? This especially doesn't make sense because one of the reasons Shelton kind of coasted in his last few years was he had no upward mobility.
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Cornwind Evil posted:Something a friend asked me: Is there a particular reason that a moonsault is called a moonsault? Opposite direction of a somersault, "somer-" being a derivative of "summer", a season associated with sun. Hence, reverse somersault. Technically it really should be called a wintersault instead. A somersault from the top rope is pretty much just a 450 splash because of the extra rotation. A full somersault to a standing opponent would land very awkwardly.
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Frankenstein Dad posted:I dunno what a Rainmaker is, then. Does he always do it from a back bodylock? Rear lock, spin out, pull back in for the If I wasn't on the app I'd track down the Okada vs Andersen match from last year which had a fantastic counter-filled end to the match.
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The Rainmaker is when two men do a pose and the camera zooms out. When the zoom out is not in sync I want my $25 back. I've heard there is a move, but I doubt it, the pose is the money.
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MassRafTer posted:When the zoom out is not in sync I want my $25 back. Did NJPW refund you for every IPPV purchase??
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Mystery Opponent posted:Did NJPW refund you for every IPPV purchase?? Ustream agreed to a partial refund.
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Joeslop posted:What were the most underwhelming surprise returns, where either people had no idea who the person was, didn't remember them, or just plain didn't care, not counting Royal Rumble surprises? Not really a surprise, but in the early 90's, Bob Backlund made a comeback after being gone for eight years. The WWF style had shifted and he was a totally bland wrestleguy in a time of colorful gimmicks. Nobody really cared about him even though they kept talking up how much of a big deal he used to be. The only time he got a big reaction was at Royal Rumble '93 where he lasted over an hour and got third place. He had a moment where he had Yokozuna on the ropes and then got eliminated to a fairly strong reaction. They did gently caress-all with him for a while, having him get squashed by Razor Ramon at the following Wrestlemania. They finally struck insane gold when he lost a match against Bret for the title and completely snapped after the match before coming to his senses and realizing he blacked out. At first this was going to be explained as being Papa Shango's doing, but Backlund was so awesome at it that they just had him go fully crazy and that gave us MISTER Bob Backlund. quote:Conversely, what were the most underwhelming surprised Royal Rumble returns? Have there been any where people didn't flip out? The early Rumbles have the worst surprise entrants. Guys like Dory Funk Jr., Carlos Colon and Dick Murdock.
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MassRafTer posted:The Rainmaker is when two men do a pose and the camera zooms out. When the zoom out is not in sync I want my $25 back. The money falling from the rafters is the real money, come on now.
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