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Can we stretch "return" to include Tito Ortiz coming to TNA? I mean we probably can't, but his reveal surely counts among the most entertaining television moments of my life.
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Gavok posted:Not really a surprise, but in the early 90's, Bob Backlund made a comeback after being gone for eight years. The WWF style had shifted and he was a totally bland wrestleguy in a time of colorful gimmicks. Nobody really cared about him even though they kept talking up how much of a big deal he used to be. The only time he got a big reaction was at Royal Rumble '93 where he lasted over an hour and got third place. He had a moment where he had Yokozuna on the ropes and then got eliminated to a fairly strong reaction. OK. So did he come back with an "I'm still the champ, I was never pinned and didn't submit" gimmick? I never knew for sure. Occasionally in the mid-late 80s one of the Apter mags would pop up with Backlund quotes about it, but IDK if those were real quotes or...?
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MassRafTer posted:The Rainmaker is when two men do a pose and the camera zooms out. When the zoom out is not in sync I want my $25 back. 
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Nick_326 posted:Q: Someone mentioned an interview with Steve Austin where he was shocked to find out he broke Chono's neck. Anyone have a link to the interview and/or that specific part? That was me. It was a tricky one to find since the original video got taken down from Youtube, but I managed to find it on Dailymotion. It was in the shoot interview, "the Voices Versus Steve Austin." http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x11xuj5_the-voice-versus-stone-cold-steve-austin-hdtv-x264-timster_sport?start=2130 35:30 in.
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I also love how the Rainmaker is the best-protected finisher this side of a Burning Hammer. I struggle to think of anything in WWE that's as routinely deadly. Bryan's Busaiku Knee has knocked everyone out but only since August.
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Ghostpilot posted:That was me. It was a tricky one to find since the original video got taken down from Youtube, but I managed to find it on Dailymotion. It was in the shoot interview, "the Voices Versus Steve Austin." You can see a lot of emotion in him there, it's almost chilling. I love the beer cooler, though. 
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harperdc posted:I also love how the Rainmaker is the best-protected finisher this side of a Burning Hammer. I struggle to think of anything in WWE that's as routinely deadly. Bryan's Busaiku Knee has knocked everyone out but only since August. Speaking of which, how the hell is the knee supposed to be taken? I'm assuming the guy on the receiving end doesn't literally get kneed in the face?
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Bryan's or the original? With Bryan's, just like they've been hit about the chest and face with a wrecking ball. Cena sold it superbly the first time out
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Right, I meant how do the wrestlers protect themselves while doing/taking the move? Because it really, really looks like Cena's getting smashed in the face. But if it were real, it'd result in concussion/death.
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IronCladBurrito posted:OK. So did he come back with an "I'm still the champ, I was never pinned and didn't submit" gimmick? I never knew for sure. Occasionally in the mid-late 80s one of the Apter mags would pop up with Backlund quotes about it, but IDK if those were real quotes or...? In the beginning of his early 90's run, he didn't really bring it up. He was overly respectful to the point of shaking hands with the jobbers post-match, so it was out of character for him to whine about the past. Once he turned heel, he really got into it. When he beat Bret Hart for the belt, he insisted that he never truly lost the title to begin with.
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Superstring posted:Right, I meant how do the wrestlers protect themselves while doing/taking the move? Because it really, really looks like Cena's getting smashed in the face. But if it were real, it'd result in concussion/death. You bump with it.
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On that note, how the hell does an opponent take Cesaro's leapfrog stomp? It's two feet straight to the chest from Swagger's shoulders. I guess Cesaro could make a soft landing and buckle his knees on impact, but goddamn that looks like it hurts anyway.
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I always thought/got the impression the person taking the move makes sure they're not flat on the canvas so they have abit of give
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How did the false rumor of the original Ultimate Warrior dying and being replaced start and become so widespread in the '90s? I first heard it from a classmate in 2nd grade that he died due to a "steroid overdose" around the time of Hogan vs. Warrior. I believed it initially until my dad pointed out that it was obviously still the same guy and that this death would've made the news. From a Google search it seems like versions of the rumor with different causes of death spread every time he took time off, but I can't find any original source. Thauros fucked around with this message at 13:10 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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Tbqh it's a lot more believable than the guy legally changing his name to Warrior Warrior and publishing a comic book where he rapes Santa
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oatgan posted:Also I think I remember reading/hearing for one of those wrestling podcasts that Vince saw Silver Linings Playbook and wanted a dancing gimmick earlier this year Fandango's first dark match appearance was before that movie was released.
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Gavok posted:In the beginning of his early 90's run, he didn't really bring it up. He was overly respectful to the point of shaking hands with the jobbers post-match, so it was out of character for him to whine about the past. Once he turned heel, he really got into it. When he beat Bret Hart for the belt, he insisted that he never truly lost the title to begin with. He was sorta right. Arnold Skaaland gave up on his behalf without his consent while he was in the Camel Clutch.
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And then Diesel killed that whole awesome angle in nine seconds.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:He was sorta right. Arnold Skaaland gave up on his behalf without his consent while he was in the Camel Clutch. Which Backlund drew on to further his heel turn, by putting Skaaland in the crossface chicken-wing. DeathChicken posted:And then Diesel killed that whole awesome angle in nine seconds. I get that they wanted to get the belt from Bret to Diesel, and I get that they wanted a transitional guy between them, and I get that they wanted to build up a heel to be that transitional guy. What I don't get is why you have that title change happen at a loving house show in 1994.
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harperdc posted:I also love how the Rainmaker is the best-protected finisher this side of a Burning Hammer. I wouldn't say that, it's just a protected finisher like when most people in the company debut a new finisher. The difference is he became a champion very quickly after debuting the move, and then he won all of his defenses with it. HulkaMatt fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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Red posted:Which Backlund drew on to further his heel turn, by putting Skaaland in the crossface chicken-wing. In less than 30 seconds, for that matter. I know Kevin Nash isn't exactly Jumbo Tsuruta or anything, but I'm sure they could have done a 5 minute match on RAW, it might have popped the ratings and it would have been the first time the WWE title changed hands on RAW. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 15:47 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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The more you dig, the more you realize that both McMahon and Bischoff are both really guys who stumbled rear end over head into 2-3 year long "hot streaks" and milked entire careers out of it. Vince's only difference is that he managed to do it twice.
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House shows used to be huge business. Also, this was no regular house show, this was MSG. I imagine they did the title change at MSG to try and pop attendance at house shows, which would've been way more important than RAW ratings at the time.
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spongeh posted:House shows used to be huge business. Also, this was no regular house show, this was MSG. I imagine they did the title change at MSG to try and pop attendance at house shows, which would've been way more important than RAW ratings at the time. Very true. This dates back to the territory days. MSG shows were essentially on the level of a Saturday Night's Main Event or Clash of the Champions level show. They were basically untelevised PPVs.
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Thauros posted:How did the false rumor of the original Ultimate Warrior dying and being replaced start and become so widespread in the '90s? When he left WWF, Warrior clones popped up in some territories, and they were Obviously Not Hellwig. I'd always figured that to be the start of the rumor.
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ThatCguy posted:Very true. This dates back to the territory days. MSG shows were essentially on the level of a Saturday Night's Main Event or Clash of the Champions level show. They were basically untelevised PPVs. Adding to this, weren't MSG shows televised in some areas too? Or did they stop that by that time.
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triplexpac posted:Adding to this, weren't MSG shows televised in some areas too? Or did they stop that by that time. I'm pretty sure that had stopped well before 1994. Thauros posted:How did the false rumor of the original Ultimate Warrior dying and being replaced start and become so widespread in the '90s? I honestly doubt it came from one particular place. He disappeared without explanation for six months, and when he came back he was noticeably smaller and had a different haircut. In the days before everyone was reading about what's going on backstage on the internet, it was easy for stupid kids (like me) to jump to the conclusion that it was a different guy. Then we'd have to fill in a reason for why it was a different guy.
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Diabolik900 posted:I'm pretty sure that had stopped well before 1994. Somewhere, in another timeline, exists a kid who believes the original Chris Masters is dead.
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I've heard rumours that Chris Masters died on his way back to his home planet, but the Japanese rebuilt him into a great worker. Edit: Actual question, is MVP's Hawkeye vest to cover up his controversial tattoos?
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Halloween Jack posted:I've heard rumours that Chris Masters died on his way back to his home planet, but the Japanese rebuilt him into a great worker. Yup. Dude has some pretty sweet prison tattoos.
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Gonzo McFee posted:Yup. Dude has some pretty sweet prison tattoos. One of them is of Louis Farrakahn, as well.
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Apparently wwe.com took photos of them. First match for MVP tattoos: http://www.wwe.com/inside/superstarink/mvp and yup they are pretty terrible.
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El Gallinero Gros posted:One of them is of Louis Farrakahn, as well. lol apparently it's Malcolm X. I also thought it was Farrakhan.
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sportsgenius86 posted:lol apparently it's Malcolm X. I also thought it was Farrakhan. I'd never seen it, somebody told me it was Farrakahn. He needs to get the Malcolm one retouched.
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sportsgenius86 posted:lol apparently it's Malcolm X. I also thought it was Farrakhan. And the Eye of Horace. Presumably Hogan. Jesus, it would take literally 20 seconds on Google to find out the correct spelling. (It's Horus.)
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Gaz-L posted:And the Eye of Horace. Presumably Hogan. Jesus, it would take literally 20 seconds on Google to find out the correct spelling. (It's Horus.) Google, the thing readily available to people in jail.
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IronCladBurrito posted:OK. So did he come back with an "I'm still the champ, I was never pinned and didn't submit" gimmick? I never knew for sure. Occasionally in the mid-late 80s one of the Apter mags would pop up with Backlund quotes about it, but IDK if those were real quotes or...? He was the wrestling coach of my hometown's high school in the very early nineties and would bring that up in real life to a bunch of kids who only knew him as a strange orange man who coached wrestling.
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Diabolik900 posted:I'm pretty sure that had stopped well before 1994. Cromulent fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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Rodney the Piper posted:Google, the thing readily available to people in jail. WWE is outsourcing its article writing and editing to prisons now? poo poo!
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Rodney the Piper posted:Google, the thing readily available to people in jail. Not only that, he was only 16 when he was arrested which means that his jail sentence would've started in the late '80s. It's great how successful he's been able to be considering he spent his life between the ages of 16 and 25 in prison. Thauros fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Dec 6, 2013 |
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