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elmer fud posted:In the last week I bought and read steel heart, legion, rithmitic, and emperors soul. Someone give me more Sanderson before I die. Also is dune any good? Amazon tricked me, I went to the Kindle main page and under the New to You option they showed Words of Radiance and I about shat a brick, thinking it was somehow available but no, just a pre-order... And yes, buy the first Dune book, it's awesome and I wish I could find another book like it. I've found a few things close to it but Dune just hits all the right spots for me.. And if you have a question about the sequels, the general rule of thumb I've seen people offer and I agree with; keep reading until you don't like it anymore but at the least don't read anything written by his son.
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elmer fud posted:In the last week I bought and read steel heart, legion, rithmitic, and emperors soul. Someone give me more Sanderson before I die. Also is dune any good? Get your rear end on The Way of Kings, stat. And Dune as in the Frank Herbert book? Yes. It is one of the best books of all time, not even joking. I haven't read any of the sequels, though.
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Dec 5, 2013 21:26
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I thought the first Dune was kinda of interesting but also kind of stale; great ideas, but so slow paced. The second book was really incredibly boring, and I think I even read the third book before concluding that it wasn't for me at all. It's very bland and old fashioned and you can go chapters and chapters and chapters without anything happening except people talking about maybe doing something later. It's also a sci-fi classic, so SOME people really enjoy it. Your mileage may vary, but that's my experience with it.
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Dec 5, 2013 21:34
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OneTwentySix posted:The second book was really incredibly boring, and I think I even read the third book before concluding that it wasn't for me at all. It's very bland and old fashioned and you can go chapters and chapters and chapters without anything happening except people talking about maybe doing something later. This is the experience everyone I know who has read Dune and it's sequels has shared. I think Dune is downright amazing, but it just goes downhill with book 2 and beyond. I made it through Book 3 as well before giving it up as a lost cause. Also seconding the Way of Kings recommendation. It's among my favorite Sanderson books so far, and it's sequel is getting ready to be released in a couple of months. Also if you haven't read Mistborn, get onto that pronto.
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Dec 5, 2013 21:37
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I loved the first three Dune books, but the fourth goes completely nuts. I stopped reading after 4, but apparently it gets even weirder.
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Dec 5, 2013 21:39
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Ithaqua posted:I loved the first three Dune books, but the fourth goes completely nuts. I stopped reading after 4, but apparently it gets even weirder. God-Emperor is pretty good and an interesting look at what godhood might actually be like although it is very, very strange. It's when you start dealing with women from beyond the stars who control men through tight control of their vaginal muscles that the series stops being good, aka book 5.
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Dec 5, 2013 21:41
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Agreed. God Emperor of Dune is actually my favorite book in the series because it a unique idea with from one of the craziest points of view I've ever encountered. Books 5 and 6 are just silly though.
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Dec 5, 2013 21:54
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"Stop when it starts to get too stupid/boring/silly for you to stomach" is a pretty good reading guide for the Dune series. Although if you plow through the Anderson & Herbert books following that maxim, something is wrong with you.
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Dec 5, 2013 22:10
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Get on WoK, Mistborn, and if you want to spend like 20 minutes on more Steelheart you can buy the Mitosis novella for like $2.
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Dec 6, 2013 04:39
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Brandon just sent in the final WoR revision to the publisher, so now the countdown begins.
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quiggy stardust posted:God-Emperor is pretty good and an interesting look at what godhood might actually be like although it is very, very strange. It's when you start dealing with women from beyond the stars who control men through tight control of their vaginal muscles that the series stops being good, aka book 5. I read the first 6, and honestly the only thing I remember about the last 2 are how Duncan Idaho and his woman can't stop loving each other for even 5 minutes because they're both magical gently caress-wizards, and the Bene Gesserit are freaking out because whoever controls the wicked poonanny controls the universe. And then sand worms get turned aquatic by the end. The gently caress?
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Words of Radiance back cover text: The Knights Radiant must stand again. The ancient oaths have at last been spoken; the spren return. Men seek that which was lost. I fear the struggle will destroy them. It is the nature of the magic. A broken soul has cracks into which something else can be fit. Surgebindings, the powers of creation themselves. They can brace a broken soul; but they can also widen its fissures. The Windrunner, lost in a shattered land, balanced upon the boundary between vengeance and honor. The Lightweaver, slowly being consumed by her past, searching for the lie that she must become. The Bondsmith, born in blood and death, striving to rebuild what was destroyed. The Explorer, straddling the fates of two peoples, forced to choose between slow death and a terrible betrayal of all she believes. It is past time for them to awaken, for the Everstorm looms. And the Assassin has arrived. From the Cover Flap: The eagerly awaited sequel to the New York Times bestselling The Way of Kings. Six years ago, the Assassin in White, a hireling of the inscrutable Parshendi, assassinated the Alethi king on the very night a treaty between men and Parshendi was being celebrated. So began the Vengeance Pact among the highprinces of Alethkar and the War of Reckoning against the Parshendi. Now the Assassin is active again, murdering rulers all over the world, using his baffling powers to thwart every bodyguard and elude all pursuers. Among his prime targets is Highprince Dalinar, widely considered the power behind the Alethi throne. His leading role in the war would seem reason enough, but the Assassin’s master has much deeper motives. Expected by his enemies to die the miserable death of a military slave, Kaladin survived to be given command of the royal bodyguards, a controversial first for a low-status darkeyes. Now he must protect the king and Dalinar from every common peril as well as the distinctly uncommon threat of the Assassin, all while secretly struggling to master remarkable new powers that are somehow linked to his honorspren, Syl. Brilliant but troubled Shallan strives along a parallel path. Broken by a past she refuses to acknowledge, hers is a terrible burden: to find a way to prevent the return of the ancient Voidbringers and their Desolation. The secrets she needs can be found at the Shattered Plains, but even arriving there proves more difficult than she imagined. Meanwhile, at the heart of the Shattered Plains, the Parshendi are making an epochal decision. Hard pressed by years of Alethi attacks, their numbers ever shrinking, they are convinced by their war leader, Eshonai, to risk everything on an desperate gamble with the very supernatural forces they once fled. The consequences for Parshendi and humans alike—indeed, for Roshar itself—are as dangerous as they are incalculable.
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omnibobb posted:Words of Radiance back cover text: I'm excited for this! Way of Kings was really really good.
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Dec 6, 2013 17:19
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Well, I'm excited.
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A Parshendi main character? Yes please.
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quote:Meanwhile, at the heart of the Shattered Plains, the Parshendi are making an epochal decision. Hard pressed by years of Alethi attacks, their numbers ever shrinking, they are convinced by their war leader, Eshonai, to risk everything on an desperate gamble with the very supernatural forces they once fled. The consequences for Parshendi and humans alike—indeed, for Roshar itself—are as dangerous as they are incalculable. Which leads to them becoming Voidbringers, aye?
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api call girl posted:Which leads to them becoming Voidbringers, aye? That's what I figured. They make a deal with Odium (maybe?) to win the war and that leads to them becoming Voidbringers. Is there any ideas on who the Bondsmith and the Explorer are? I think Dalinar and Jasnah.
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Dec 6, 2013 19:57
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gently caress yes. Come out soon please
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omnibobb posted:That's what I figured. They make a deal with Odium (maybe?) to win the war and that leads to them becoming Voidbringers. Explorer has to be Jasnah. Bondsmith is probably Dalinar, yeah.
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theshim posted:A Parshendi main character? Yes please. He's done several readings of a chapter that contains a Parshendi POV character. You can find them on Google.
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Dec 6, 2013 20:16
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Is the Windrunner Kaladin, then?
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This Post Sucks posted:Is the Windrunner Kaladin, then? Ya, "lost in a shattered land" he's not from the shattered plains and balanced between vengeance and honor is pretty much his whole I'm a good guy/I hate the light eyes shtick.
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omnibobb posted:Ya, "lost in a shattered land" he's not from the shattered plains and balanced between vengeance and honor is pretty much his whole I'm a good guy/I hate the light eyes shtick. I thought it might have been Szeth with his whole honor stuff.
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This Post Sucks posted:I thought it might have been Szeth with his whole honor stuff. I thought it might be too, but the last line is "And the Assassin has arrived" so that's Szeth. Edit: Unless BranSan fucks our poo poo up and there is another assasssin or some poo poo.
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IIRC, Sanderson said that Szeth isn't a Windrunner, despite having the same powerset. He also hasn't shown any indication of wanting vengeance against anyone.
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Mygna posted:IIRC, Sanderson said that Szeth isn't a Windrunner, despite having the same powerset. He also hasn't shown any indication of wanting vengeance against anyone. He's been shown to be angry at the people who make him do horrible things or that one dude who knew he was coming and had a bunch of guys out to slow him down that he had to kill.
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I really want to learn more about some of these characters in the interludes. Especially, the one with the woman who was destroying the art.
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The Glumslinger posted:I really want to learn more about some of these characters in the interludes. Especially, the one with the woman who was destroying the art. I'm fairly sure she's a herald.
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Tunicate posted:I'm fairly sure she's a herald. Really? How so? I'm not criticizing, I'm honestly curious what clues you're looking to for this.
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Secret Herald will be the new secret Targ.
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treeboy posted:Really? How so? I'm not criticizing, I'm honestly curious what clues you're looking to for this. Basically, Brandon confirmed in an Q&A session that every single herald was mention/seen in book 1 at some point. As such, people have been looking for heralds in the book and Baxil's mistress being one might be the best supported one. Baxil's mistress apparantly is busy destroying statues of the herald Shalash (Brandon confirmed the statue of shalash Seth notices is missing in his first chapter was destroyed by her) and that combined with her appearance makes people think she is Shalash herself.
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Walh Hara posted:Basically, Brandon confirmed in an Q&A session that every single herald was mention/seen in book 1 at some point. As such, people have been looking for heralds in the book and Baxil's mistress being one might be the best supported one. Baxil's mistress apparantly is busy destroying statues of the herald Shalash (Brandon confirmed the statue of shalash Seth notices is missing in his first chapter was destroyed by her) and that combined with her appearance makes people think she is Shalash herself. I wish he would be more of a RAFO kind of guy. I love all the information, but come on bro let us figure it all out instead of giving us it.
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omnibobb posted:I wish he would be more of a RAFO kind of guy. I love all the information, but come on bro let us figure it all out instead of giving us it. I don't mind him saying we saw all heralds anyway, it leads to fun theorycrafting but nothing more. He did reply with a RADO on the question wether Baxil's mistress was Shalash. It is likely that the question "did baxil's mistress destroy that specific statue of Shalash?" would never be explicitely revealed in any of the books, hence he decided to answer/clarify it.
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He prefers a different kind of RAFO it seems. The kind that drives frantic speculation.
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Walh Hara posted:Basically, Brandon confirmed in an Q&A session that every single herald was mention/seen in book 1 at some point. As such, people have been looking for heralds in the book and Baxil's mistress being one might be the best supported one. Baxil's mistress apparantly is busy destroying statues of the herald Shalash (Brandon confirmed the statue of shalash Seth notices is missing in his first chapter was destroyed by her) and that combined with her appearance makes people think she is Shalash herself. oh that's pretty awesome. And yeah I feel that most of his info drops tend to fuel more questions than they answer. As someone who got really frustrated with the whole Wheel of Time "Who killed Asmodean?" question only for it to end up being a total let-down non-issue i appreciate the bits of lore he'll easily let slip.
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OK fine, if she isn't a mystery, then how about the weird guy who studied spren. I always smile when I get to his part.
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treeboy posted:oh that's pretty awesome. I guess my issue is that because I haven't read something outside of the books or studied the wiki, I'm missing out on part of the story. Granted, this will all probably become part of the story and I'm whining about nothing. So, if we've seen all of the Heralds in book 1, who do we think they are? I hope Gaz and that's what happened. He got called to Herald it up.
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The Glumslinger posted:OK fine, if she isn't a mystery, then how about the weird guy who studied spren. I always smile when I get to his part. Yeah I'd love to learn more about him. He was definitely my favorite one-off POV in that book.
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Just finished the Rithmatist. There were definitely a few issues I had with it, primarily related to the existence of this huge world but being stuck inside a school. I know many people related it to Harry Potter for this reason. Speaking of Harry Potter, one issue I had throughout most of the book was that Nalazar just screamed SNAAAAAAAAAPE the entire book. Fortunately I suspect Sanderson did this knowingly to make it surprise when it turned out that Nalazar WAS, in fact, the bad guy. I enjoyed that Joel and Melody weren't cut and paste copies of previous characters he's written (or the same of such characters in similar books), and that each had some notable character flaws. I think it's tempting for a lot of authors, particularly in YA, to do the Mary Sue protagonist super amazing at everything thing, and I'm glad it was avoided here. I'm also glad that Joel remained a non-Rithmatist. Unfortunately, Sanderson is a have your cake and eat it too kind of author sometimes, so the mysterious 3d chalkling makes it pretty clear he'll become a Rithmatist at some point. I just hope he avoids (JIM BUTCHER'S CODEX ALERA SPOILERS!!) the problem with Codex Alera, which had a similar plotline with Tavi, who became considerably less awesome when he could just kamehameha his problems away instead of outsmarting everyone. Btw, does anyone have a decent summary of Way of Kings? I read it when it first came out, and I really don't remember that much of it. I don't have the time for a re-read though, and so would appreciate it if anyone had any links to a decent summary.
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