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jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
Breaking bad started with Walt going on about how his cooking would be safe and then he grows a loving beard! The respirators they wear all series don't seal properly and are actually illegal to wear in a industrial environment with a beard. Also the shot of people in tyveks and masks pulling sir out of Walt's pool with the really loud breathing through a respirator sound had those dudes not having any filters in their masks, suo they would be breathing uninhibited

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jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight
I work in industrial safety

syscall girl
Nov 7, 2009

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

The ending was actually kind of lame compared to how much people were gushing over it. Nowhere near as amazing and satisfying as the Shield's finale.

The ending was a foregone conclusion. They'd written the show into a corner. The exact corner anyone with half a brain could have predicted.

Also, requesting a name change to Walter Wight.

redshirt
Aug 11, 2007

Reporting for shovel mission Sir.
Spartacus Rules. Violent Porn Historical Camp.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug
Gratitude Domina.

Bastard Man
Nov 15, 2009

Lipstick Apathy
To be fair, do any of these other shows try to take on anything as massive? Out of most of the things listed I've really only seen Breaking bad and the Wire and Dexter (Even the first 4 seasons i'd say were on par with GoT), and tiny bits of Mad Men. Not many other shows have had to juggle as many filming locations, characters and separate significant plot lines at the same time. And what it's all based on is a lot deeper and more complex then a show has any right to be. I can't really blame them for the show not being perfect. After reading the books I'm surprised they did as well as they did porting it over. Maybe I'm all wrong, and the show is awful, don't really care. I enjoy it and I'd rather just watch it and enjoy it then sperg over all the details of how it isn't perfect. Even Dexter I managed to get enjoyment out of regardless of how undeniably lovely it became until the last episode which was the worst thing I've ever seen.

ZShakespeare
Jul 20, 2003

The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose!

jsoh posted:

Breaking bad started with Walt going on about how his cooking would be safe and then he grows a loving beard! The respirators they wear all series don't seal properly and are actually illegal to wear in a industrial environment with a beard. Also the shot of people in tyveks and masks pulling sir out of Walt's pool with the really loud breathing through a respirator sound had those dudes not having any filters in their masks, suo they would be breathing uninhibited

Because Walter White gives a poo poo about what is illegal.

SaviourX
Sep 30, 2003

The only true Catwoman is Julie Newmar, Lee Meriwether, or Eartha Kitt.

I'd say because he didn't give a poo poo about his lungs because cancer. But they're illegal because if you have a beard, then the respirators won't fit on your face.


Re: Scope of the show. That's one of the things they handle pretty well. That and letting the few good actors chew up their scenes.

So Rome's pretty close? Carnivale in places. The Wire as far as different parts of the city each season. Boardwalk has three different cities with several factions in each. Miniseries that adapt things like War & Peace or Band of Brothers probably match the grand scope better.

whowhatwhere
Mar 15, 2010

SHINee's back

Sexgun Rasputin posted:

Where should someone jump into Spartacus to get to the good poo poo? I tried to watch a couple episodes of the first season and couldn't get into it.

Don't jump into Spartacus. Unfortunately you'll have to put up with a few crappy episodes, but it starts getting decent around the fifth episode, "Shadow Games", and swiftly moves into becoming one of the best TV shows in its niche ever (hell, I'd even say by the sixth episode it's vaulted into that status).

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

The ending was actually kind of lame compared to how much people were gushing over it. Nowhere near as amazing and satisfying as the Shield's finale.

As was said, it was the only real ending possible that wrapped nearly everything up, but yeah. Compared to the rest of that season it was a huge disappointment. I'd compare the third-to-last episode to the finale of The Shield though, and I think it holds up perfectly well.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

ZShakespeare posted:

Because Walter White gives a poo poo about what is illegal.

he cares about what is safe, proper process as a chemist. As demonstrated by him wearing the masks in th efirst place and having eyewash and fire extinguishers. Also as demonstrated by dialogue.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames
Those masks will seal around his thin goatee.

Source: My work is chemistry and safety related. The 3M 6900 will seal under the chin. Walt and Mike's facial hair wouldn't break the seal because they didn't extend under the chin.

The Anime Liker fucked around with this message at 09:18 on Dec 8, 2013

Saeka
Jul 2, 2007

I'm a man that loves the simple things. Sunhats. Boba. Dresses.

This is going to be a thing: http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2013/12/07/telltale-games-announces-new-borderlands-and-game-of-thrones-episodic-series/

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

They're making a video game adaptation of a video game? That's... a thing.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

Those masks will seal around his thin goatee.

Source: My work is chemistry and safety related. The 3M 6900 will seal under the chin. Walt and Mike's facial hair wouldn't break the seal because they didn't extend under the chin.

It would seal but it would still not be allowed at any work site ive ever been too and I don't think its true to the character.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.
This is the most boring derail this thread has ever had

Workplace safety, even the very words are boring

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

Shows better than GoT...

This list is woefully ignorant of British TV. Perhaps it's my perverse sense of humor, but I think Peep Show might be the greatest thing to ever air.

Sexgun Rasputin posted:

Where should someone jump into Spartacus to get to the good poo poo? I tried to watch a couple episodes of the first season and couldn't get into it.

Episode 5, but don't actually do that. Spartacus is loving awesome, but the first four episodes are just terrible. Still, you'll enjoy it more if you watch them all.

Torquemadras
Jun 3, 2013


I love how it says that the GoT series will be based on the TV version rather than the books.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Torquemadras posted:

I love how it says that the GoT series will be based on the TV version rather than the books.

They're actually separate licenses, just like The Walking Dead. That's how you can simultaneously get multiple video games by different developers and publishers for the same franchise. Telltale's Walking Dead games have the comic book license, Survival Instinct has the TV license. Similarly for ASoIaF, AGOT: Genesis had the book license, while the Atlus RPG (and now this Telltale game) has the TV license.

Knuc U Kinte
Aug 17, 2004

Sexgun Rasputin posted:

Season 2 of Deadwood is utterly baller but yeah the Alma/Seth/Skylar poo poo gets old. Gets resolved pretty quickly though poo poo becomes and stays Real for the duration.






I gotta say GRRM does a decent job with dialogue considering the limitations he's placed on himself. D&D are pretty lovely at it though.

"Would you close your flap, that I don't forgo my boiled eggs?"

Poetry.

The Anime Liker
Aug 8, 2009

by VideoGames

PittTheElder posted:

This list is woefully ignorant of British TV. Perhaps it's my perverse sense of humor, but I think Peep Show might be the greatest thing to ever air.

There was an ellipsis. :colbert:

Obviously everything on the BBC owns, except for Top Gear.

Especially Luther. Idris Elba using his real accent is the best thing. :allears:

And yes, Peep Show and That Mitchell and Webb Look are the funniest shows ever put on TV.

Torquemadras
Jun 3, 2013

Joramun posted:

They're actually separate licenses, just like The Walking Dead. That's how you can simultaneously get multiple video games by different developers and publishers for the same franchise. Telltale's Walking Dead games have the comic book license, Survival Instinct has the TV license. Similarly for ASoIaF, AGOT: Genesis had the book license, while the Atlus RPG (and now this Telltale game) has the TV license.

And it is glorious.

Not long now, and the books will be completely absorbed by the glorious TV version!

REJOICE

emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
Can't wait to play with her arse!

Alternatively, can't wait to play the peep on folks having kinky sex, berate prostitute for having emotions and wipe jizz off of faces minigame.

It's gonna be quite awesome when you gear up towards a major battle and then the screen fades to black.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Torquemadras posted:

And it is glorious.

Not long now, and the books will be completely absorbed by the glorious TV version!

REJOICE

They should license the TV rights to someone to write a novelization of it, we don't have that yet.

Or a series of tie-in books. Play With Her Arse: A Poetry Collection and Where Are My Dragons, a self-help book for finding the dragons in your life and, perhaps, some happiness along the way.

Hogge Wild
Aug 21, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Pillbug

emanresu tnuocca posted:

Can't wait to play with her arse!

Alternatively, can't wait to play the peep on folks having kinky sex, berate prostitute for having emotions and wipe jizz off of faces minigame.

It's gonna be quite awesome when you gear up towards a major battle and then the screen fades to black.

Fights are handled by the player giving Batman sound effects as voice commands.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Hogge Wild posted:

Fights are handled by the player giving Batman sound effects as voice commands.

I wish thinking more like Pokémon commands.

"Kingslayer, I choose you! Use Helping Hand!"

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

whowhatwhere posted:

As was said, it was the only real ending possible that wrapped nearly everything up, but yeah. Compared to the rest of that season it was a huge disappointment. I'd compare the third-to-last episode to the finale of The Shield though, and I think it holds up perfectly well.

Basically, I take issue with Walter dying. I would rather he lived to spend the next several decades in a cell or on the lam, mulling over how thoroughly hated he is by everyone, how every good deed he ever did in his life is now forgotten because of Heisenberg. The rest of it is more or less fine, because the direct comparison to the Shield which I intended is how Vic also destroys the lives of everyone around him and at the end has to live for untold years with the knowledge that he's a monster who "had good intentions."

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Torquemadras posted:

I love how it says that the GoT series will be based on the TV version rather than the books.

This particular game was rumoured to be a book adaptation, not a show one pre-reveal.

Joramun
Dec 1, 2011

No man has need of candles when the Sun awaits him.

Aurain posted:

This particular game was rumoured to be a book adaptation, not a show one pre-reveal.

Well thank R'hllor it has the show license rather than the book one, otherwise we would have to miss out on all those timeless, well-developed and fully-realized show-exclusive characters such as Ros, Talisa and Daisy.

Aston
Nov 19, 2007

Okay
Okay
Okay
Okay
Okay

A GLISTENING HODOR posted:

That Mitchell and Webb Look are the funniest shows ever put on TV.

You were doing so well, and then this. I mean really.

Hunky Joe
Dec 21, 2005

I'll fight crime when I feel like it...

Joramun posted:

They should license the TV rights to someone to write a novelization of it, we don't have that yet.

Or a series of tie-in books. Play With Her Arse: A Poetry Collection and Where Are My Dragons, a self-help book for finding the dragons in your life and, perhaps, some happiness along the way.

Perhaps they can name the second one "How to find your untrained dragons"

CloFan
Nov 6, 2004

Hey guys, I think the show adaptation is pretty good. I like The Wire and Breaking Bad too; however, I also like Bones and Sons of Anarchy, so I guess my opinion is nill :v:

Shroud
May 11, 2009

Hunky Joe posted:

Perhaps they can name the second one "How to find your untrained dragons"

How to train your unfound dragon(s).

ShaqDiesel
Mar 21, 2013
How To Train Your Colon: Dany's Quest

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


I suppose in real book talk, my brother has finally gotten around to ADWD.
He's gone from liking Dany to realising "this is getting boring".

No one is immune to the shitfest that is ADWD.

Urdnot Fire
Feb 13, 2012

Especially not Dany.

Torquemadras posted:

I love how it says that the GoT series will be based on the TV version rather than the books.
Eventually the books will be but a distant memory, and our lives will have never been so fine and sweet and good.

kcroy
May 30, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo

my cat is norris posted:

Wait, so our book got taken down from Amazon?

Can I incorporate a rant about it into my upcoming Sensa chapter?

My voice acting career is over, Arbite!

that is some serious bullshit. did they give a reason, or just yank it?

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon
40k crossover is better then the real thing anyway. That should be a show.

mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

Urdnot Fire posted:

Eventually the books will be but a distant memory, and our lives will have never been so fine and sweet and good.

Ooh la di da Mr. "I don't have night terrors ingrained into my psyche from bad berries and truncated deadlines."

redreader
Nov 2, 2009

I am the coolest person ever with my pirate chalice. Seriously.

Dinosaur Gum
I finally got 'round to reading ADWD!

Main predictions: Melisandre resurrects Jon Snow. Arya goes deaf. Jaime gets hanged by Brienne.

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emanresu tnuocca
Sep 2, 2011

by Athanatos
Brienne won't be the one to hang Jaime but he is likely to die, She will probably try to defend him, fail, and then the BwB will turn against Stoneheart.

Source:

quote:

Naked and alone he stood, surrounded by enemies, with stone walls all around him pressing close. The Rock, he knew. He could feel the immense weight of it above his head. He was home. He was home and whole.
He held his right hand up and flexed his fingers to feel the strength in them. It felt as good as sex. As good as swordplay. Four fingers and a thumb. He had dreamed that he was maimed, but it wasn’t so. Relief made him dizzy. My hand, my good hand. Nothing could hurt him so long as he was whole.
Around him stood a dozen tall dark figures in cowled robes that hid their faces. In their hands were spears. “Who are you?” he demanded of them. “What business do you have in Casterly Rock?”
They gave no answer, only prodded him with the points of their spears. He had no choice but to descend. Down a twisting passageway he went, narrow steps carved from the living rock, down and down. I must go up, he told himself.Up, not down. Why am I going down? Below the earth his doom awaited, he knew with the certainty of dream; something dark and terrible lurked there, something that wanted him. Jaime tried to halt, but their spears prodded him on. If only I had my sword, nothing could harm me.
The steps ended abruptly on echoing darkness. Jaime had the sense of vast space before him. He jerked to a halt, teetering on the edge of nothingness. A spearpoint jabbed at the small of the back, shoving him into the abyss. He shouted, but the fall was short. He landed on his hands and knees, upon soft sand and shallow water. There were watery caverns deep below Casterly Rock, but this one was strange to him. “What place is this?”
“Your place.” The voice echoed; it was a hundred voices, a thousand, the voices of all the Lannisters since Lann the Clever, who’d lived at the dawn of days. But most of all it was his father’s voice, and beside Lord Tywin stood his sister, pale and beautiful, a torch burning in her hand. Joffrey was there as well, the son they’d made together, and behind them a dozen more dark shapes with golden hair.
“Sister, why has Father brought us here?”
“Us? This is your place, Brother. This is your darkness.” Her torch was the only light in the cavern. Her torch was the only light in the world. She turned to go.
“Stay with me,” Jaime pleaded. “Don’t leave me here alone.” But they were leaving. “Don’t leave me in the dark!” Something terrible lived down here. “Give me a sword, at least.”
“I gave you a sword,” Lord Tywin said.
It was at his feet. Jaime groped under the water until his hand closed upon the hilt. Nothing can hurt me so long as I have a sword. As he raised the sword a finger of pale flame flickered at the point and crept up along the edge, stopping a hand’s breath from the hilt. The fire took on the color of the steel itself so it burned with a silvery-blue light, and the gloom pulled back. Crouching, listening, Jaime moved in a circle, ready for anything that might come out of the darkness. The water flowed into his boots, ankle deep and bitterly cold. Beware the water, he told himself. There may be creatures living in it, hidden deeps . . .
From behind came a great splash. Jaime whirled toward the sound . . . but the faint light revealed only Brienne of Tarth, her hands bound in heavy chains. “I swore to keep you safe,” the wench said stubbornly. “I swore an oath.” Naked, she raised her hands to Jaime. “Ser. Please. If you would be so good.”
The steel links parted like silk. “A sword,” Brienne begged, and there it was, scabbard, belt, and all. She buckled it around her thick waist. The light was so dim that Jaime could scarcely see her, though they stood a scant few feet apart. In this light she could almost be a beauty, he thought.In this light she could almost be a knight. Brienne’s sword took flame as well, burning silvery blue. The darkness retreated a little more.
“The flames will burn so long as you live,” he heard Cersei call. “When they die, so must you.”
“Sister!” he shouted. “Stay with me. Stay!” There was no reply but the soft sound of retreating footsteps.
Brienne moved her longsword back and forth, watching the silvery flames shift and shimmer. Beneath her feet, a reflection of the burning blade shone on the surface of the flat black water. She was as tall and strong as he remembered, yet it seemed to Jaime that she had more of a woman’s shape now.
“Do they keep a bear down here?” Brienne was moving, slow and wary, sword to hand; step, turn, and listen. Each step made a little splash. “A cave lion? Direwolves? Some bear? Tell me, Jaime. What lives here? What lives in the darkness?”
“Doom.” No bear, he knew. No lion. “Only doom.”
In the cool silvery-blue light of the swords, the big wench looked pale and fierce. “I mislike this place.”
“I’m not fond of it myself.” Their blades made a little island of light, but all around them stretched a sea of darkness, unending. “My feet are wet.”
“We could go back the way they brought us. If you climbed on my shoulders you’d have no trouble reaching that tunnel mouth.”
Then I could follow Cersei. He could feel himself growing hard at the thought, and turned away so Brienne would not see.
“Listen.” She put a hand on his shoulder, and he trembled at the sudden touch. She’s warm. “Something comes.” Brienne lifted her sword to point off to his left. “There.”
He peered into the gloom until he saw it too. Something was moving through the darkness, he could not quite make it out . . .
“A man on a horse. No, two. Two riders, side by side.”
“Down here, beneath the Rock?” It made no sense. Yet there came two riders on pale horses, men and mounts both armored. The destriers emerged from the blackness at a slow walk. They make no sound, Jaime realized. No splashing, no clink of mail nor clop of hoof. He remembered Eddard Stark, riding the length of Aerys’s throne room wrapped in silence. Only his eyes had spoken; a lord’s eyes, cold and grey and full of judgment.
“Is it you, Stark?” Jaime called. “Come ahead. I never feared you living, I do not fear you dead.”
Brienne touched his arm. “There are more.”
He saw them too. They were armored all in snow, it seemed to him, and ribbons of mist swirled back from their shoulders. The visors of their helms were closed, but Jaime Lannister did not need to look upon their faces to know them.
Five had been his brothers. Oswell Whent and Jon Darry. Lewyn Martell, a prince of Dorne. The White Bull, Gerold Hightower. Ser Arthur Dayne, Sword of the Morning. And beside them, crowned in mist and grief with his long hair streaming behind him, rode Rhaegar Targaryen, Prince of Dragonstone and rightful heir to the Iron Throne.
“You don’t frighten me,” he called, turning as they split to either side of him. He did not know which way to face. “I will fight you one by one or all together. But who is there for the wench to duel? She gets cross when you leave her out.”
“I swore an oath to keep him safe,” she said to Rhaegar’s shade. “I swore a holy oath.”
“We all swore oaths,” said Ser Arthur Dayne, so sadly.
The shades dismounted from their ghostly horses. When they drew their longswords, it made not a sound. “He was going to burn the city,” Jaime said. “To leave Robert only ashes.”
“He was your king,” said Darry.
“You swore to keep him safe,” said Whent.
“And the children, them as well,” said Prince Lewyn.
Prince Rhaegar burned with a cold light, now white, now red, now dark. “I left my wife and children in your hands.”
“I never thought he’d hurt them.” Jaime’s sword was burning less brightly now. “I was with the king . . .”
“Killing the king,” said Ser Arthur.
“Cutting his throat,” said Prince Lewyn.
“The king you had sworn to die for,” said the White Bull.
The fires that ran along the blade were guttering out, and Jaime remembered what Cersei had said. No. Terror closed a hand about his throat. Then his sword went dark, and only Brienne’s burned, as the ghosts came rushing in.
“No,” he said, “no, no, no. Nooooooooo!”
Heart pounding, he jerked awake,

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