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I think the later half of Season 2 was a bit of a clusterfuck and killed my interest in the show for me. Then Pan came in and I fell in love again.
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Macaluso posted:I'm a little disappointed reading the OP though, does everyone here really view the show as a "guilty pleasure that we watch because it's so bad it's good"? Cause I think it's a legit good show.
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They'd better not be setting up the whole prophesy to have Pan-as-Henry kill off Rumple, or I (and a lot of people) will be very pissed. I suppose they could work it somehow that his downfall will be losing his powers or something instead of dying, but that would still change a pretty huge dynamic of the show.
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Dec 9, 2013 17:58
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Pffft. If Rumple dies, I'm out. Out, I say!
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I am only watching the show because of Rumpelstiltskin, Belle and somewhat Regina, I don't really like most of the other regular characters. Pan was a real breath of fresh air this season though, and I find the show interesting enough to keep watching atleast.
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KasioDiscoRock posted:They'd better not be setting up the whole prophesy to have Pan-as-Henry kill off Rumple, or I (and a lot of people) will be very pissed. I suppose they could work it somehow that his downfall will be losing his powers or something instead of dying, but that would still change a pretty huge dynamic of the show. Pretty much the entire point of the "make a deal with a with the devil-type-creature" fairy tales is that word choice is ludicrously specific and important. "Undoing" as opposed to something like death or doom is pretty obviously a setup for having his Dark One status removed. I would also be a little surprised if they didn't save that for the series finale, since as you point out he's a fan favorite and large portions of the plot require him to have magic.
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Macaluso posted:So I just marathoned the past 2 and a half seasons this past week and I'm all caught up now and I love this show to death. I love Rumplestiltskin and Belle. I'm a little disappointed reading the OP though, does everyone here really view the show as a "guilty pleasure that we watch because it's so bad it's good"? Cause I think it's a legit good show. There aren't many bad things about it to me besides some of the CG not being great which isn't surprising.
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Emma: Sure you don't have other reasons for pushing me toward Neal? David: Like what? Emma: I dunno, keeping me away from Hook. David: You think I'm interested in Hook? Emma, I'm a married man.
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Dec 11, 2013 03:10
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nelson posted:Emma: Sure you don't have other reasons for pushing me toward Neal? That was an excellent exchange. I like a cheeky Charming.
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Dec 11, 2013 03:20
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I like that they resolved the whole "Charming has to stay in Neverland dilemma", which took up like half a dozen episodes, literally with "Here, drink this." "K thanks bye."
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qbert posted:I like that they resolved the whole "Charming has to stay in Neverland dilemma", which took up like half a dozen episodes, literally with I like that they resolved the "Pan is in Henry's body" in 1 episode instead of drawing it out forever. The strange part is, the kid that plays Henry is... a good Pan. Much better 'Pan' than 'Henry'.
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Dec 11, 2013 11:48
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qbert posted:I like that they resolved the whole "Charming has to stay in Neverland dilemma", which took up like half a dozen episodes, literally with Yeah, there was absolutely no sense of urgency once they got back. I just sat there going, "Really? That's-- That's it?"
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Dec 11, 2013 12:57
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Wolvorine posted:I like that they resolved the "Pan is in Henry's body" in 1 episode instead of drawing it out forever. The strange part is, the kid that plays Henry is... a good Pan. Much better 'Pan' than 'Henry'.  Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer
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Wolvorine posted:I like that they resolved the "Pan is in Henry's body" in 1 episode instead of drawing it out forever. The strange part is, the kid that plays Henry is... a good Pan. Much better 'Pan' than 'Henry'. Right? Here I thought he was just a bad actor. It turns out he's just bad at playing Henry. I hope someone hires him in a full time jerk role in the future so he can stretch his little actor wings.
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The Nautilus posted:Right? Here I thought he was just a bad actor. It turns out he's just bad at playing Henry. I hope someone hires him in a full time jerk role in the future so he can stretch his little actor wings. I don't think he's bad at playing Henry so much as that Henry has become a somewhat dull character over time. I remember from the first season that Henry was cunning and manipulative (albeit in the good cause of breaking Regina's curse). In seasons 2 and 3 he went from being a good-intentioned but slightly ruthless little chess-master to being a generic "good boy" victim/prize with his edges smoothed away. Now that he's playing Pan, he's got his edge back.
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I think it's because Henry doesn't really have a goal anymore. The first season it basically him trying to espionage his way to getting the town fixed alongside Emma. He doesn't have anything to really do anymore besides get kidnapped or something. I think they need to send him to the Enchanted Forest or one of the other worlds, possibly with Charming (yeah more Charming and Snow being split up w/e) so that he can go on a real adventure and have to solve problems himself. The actor isn't bad at all, especially knowing how bad a lot of kid actors can be. He just needs something to do. The fact that he's such a strong believer can be used plenty of ways. Also I hope we get to see more worlds in some way. One of my favorite things was the inclusion of the Land Without Color, so I'd love to see other worlds like Oz or perhaps a greek myths world? See how the curse effected other worlds beyond bringing Viktor to Storybrook.
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I thought the curse only brought the people from the Enchanted Forest that Regina wanted to bring, the ones who were important enough to be noticed (minus the bubble that Cora created). I'd also love to see an expansion of characters from other fairy tales and myths. Henry needs another quest.
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fork bomb posted:I thought the curse only brought the people from the Enchanted Forest that Regina wanted to bring, the ones who were important enough to be noticed (minus the bubble that Cora created). Well according to the creators in one of their podcasts they mention that that the curse also went to other lands as well, in reference to the Mad Hatter who was stuck in Wonderland. And as far as we know right now the last flashback for Whale that we've seen took place in The World Without Color. So it sounds like he was pulled from there just like the Mad Hatter was pulled from Wonderland. Of course both of those characters interacted with the Queen in some way so I guess they could've been singled out when the curse hit the other lands but I guess that means there's even more openings for characters from other worlds the Queen may have interacted with to help kill Snow or whatever I'm a sucker for alternate dimensions and poo poo can you tell
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fork bomb posted:I thought the curse only brought the people from the Enchanted Forest that Regina wanted to bring, the ones who were important enough to be noticed (minus the bubble that Cora created). Nope, it brought everyone from the Enchanted Forest apart from Cora's bubble. Even some animals who were turned into humans. Like that mouse who was friends with Ruby. But all of those people from the bubble ended up slaughtered by Cora later. So there's only 3 people left in the EF- Sleeping Beauty, Prince Phillip & Mulan.
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Andrew_1985 posted:So there's only 3 people left in the EF- Sleeping Beauty, Prince Phillip & Mulan. Also Robin Hood + merry men. Macaluso posted:I'm a sucker for alternate dimensions and poo poo can you tell Same. I've said it before, but they did a great job with the black and white world (such a neat effect that added to the "extra-dimensionalism" feeling). I'm glad the show has been structured in a way that allows for so many possibilities.
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Andrew_1985 posted:So there's only 3 people left in the EF- Sleeping Beauty, Prince Phillip & Mulan. Aren't Robin Hood and his Merry Men wandering around the EF? Was there any explanation as to how they escaped the curse? Or why everybody didn't lose their memories when they went through the barrier on Hook's ship?
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Whoops, I completely forgot Robin Hood even existed. I would assume they were in the forest somewhere in Cora's bubble.
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Yeah, that big bubble leaves lots of wiggle room for people who escaped the curse's relocation yet weren't in the village that Cora later slaughtered.
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Sorry, I just found this thread. I don't necessarily dislike this show, but man oh man, the graphics make Once Upon in Wonderland look GOOD. The swords literally look wooden.
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Feenix posted:The swords literally look wooden. Yeah, I laugh every time there's a close up of Alice's sword because it looks like a giant steak knife.
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Sophie Lowe is Australian. I can only assume that she brought her sword from a table at the original Outback steakhouse.
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It's great that the Blue Fairy was standing in the way of Tinkerbell's progress, and then she was killed off that same episode
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..and nothing of value was lost.
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It does more or less kill the conspiracy that Blue was secretly a master villain pulling the puppet strings from the background. Poor Grumpy though.
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Wait why poor Grumpy? Grumpy was into Nova/Astrid, not the blue fairy
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Macaluso posted:Wait why poor Grumpy? Grumpy was into Nova/Astrid, not the blue fairy 
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Macaluso posted:Wait why poor Grumpy? Grumpy was into Nova/Astrid, not the blue fairy Oh yeah crap, I forgot that was someone else. I guess he's still just the usual level of grump.
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I can't explain why, but i find Wonderland it just so much better than the main show, perhaps it is that it tells a good simple story, or just that i don't hate most of the characters. But i thought the latest episode was quite good.
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Oasx posted:I can't explain why, but i find Wonderland it just so much better than the main show, perhaps it is that it tells a good simple story, or just that i don't hate most of the characters. But i thought the latest episode was quite good. I was really impress with Anastasia last episode. And she looked really purdy with her hair down. I hope she stays on team Alice. I also hope some random person finds the bottle first so we can see Will as a genie. I bet he's a hilarious genie. "You want to wish what? That's stupid!"
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Emma Rigby, I can't decide from one minute to the next if she's ridiculously hot or ridiculously strange looking. Those lips look like they are trying to secede from her face, and she almost ALWAYS looks like her eyes are welling up with tears. But she's also pretty good looking. Also, it still weirds me out that all I see in Will is his Sister from Misfits. Like, her with a dyke haircut.
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Feenix posted:Emma Rigby, I can't decide from one minute to the next if she's ridiculously hot or ridiculously strange looking. Those lips look like they are trying to secede from her face, and she almost ALWAYS looks like her eyes are welling up with tears. Her features are less severe with her hair down. Feenix posted:Also, it still weirds me out that all I see in Will is his Sister from Misfits. Like, her with a dyke haircut. It's okay, I can't unsee him as Tom McNair from Being Human. He was so fantastic in that show and I'm really enjoying him here too. If Wonderland tanks I hope they have him jump over to OUAT.
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Feenix posted:Also, it still weirds me out that all I see in Will is his Sister from Misfits. Like, her with a dyke haircut. Oh poo poo! I never actually paid attention to the actor's names but every time he talks all I hear is that it's the same accent as Kelly. Now I know why!
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EVERYBODY RIOT!
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I refuse to accept he's dead. foxatee posted:EVERYBODY RIOT! Nah, I'm good. I refuse to accept he's dead. If stabbing yourself was an option, Zoso would have done it himself instead of tricking Rumple into doing it. Also, I would have to quit watching if Robert Carlyle were gone.
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Ahhhh! Next season! 
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