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James Urbaniak's podcast continues to be fantastic. http://gettingonwithju.libsyn.com/ep-15-the-smart-thing-by-joseph-scrimshaw
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twistedmentat posted:Wow, I had no idea Urbaniak did the voices for Phantom Limb and Jay-Jay. I just assumed they were more Jackson and Doc voices. I guess its like Billy West does Fry thats pretty much his normal voice pitched down, but is also doing Zap and other characters. Someone linked this is earlier in the thread. Okay, sure, Bowie's voice isn't, like, super different from Urbaniak's, but it's still brilliant. I also need to listen to more of his podcasts where he reads dramatic monologues. Edit: Oh, hey, look at that. I don't even have to google them, now. You linked them for me. lol. "They have a time travel app, you can download on your...thing...You can throw yourself through them like uh...uh...hotdog through a hallway...I don't know why I used that gross phrase." Bored fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Dec 13, 2013 |
# ? Dec 13, 2013 20:08 |
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Inked Mag interview with Doc Hammer posted:INKED: What, to you, is The Venture Bros. about? I did have to make sure it wasn't old. dated 12/12/13
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 18:08 |
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deong posted:
I believe that is what is known as a "joke". I hope not to have to endure any more of them.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 18:14 |
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Cloks posted:I believe that is what is known as a "joke". I hope not to have to endure any more of them. They've clarified before that the general idea of VB is about people with actual depth and emotional hangups living in a Saturday morning cartoon. A lot of the show is about people dealing with their shortcomings and the long-term consequences of not succeeding. "The show is about failure" has been beaten to death, but it's not 100% inaccurate. It's probably best not to dwell on it, since there's really no single phrase that can sum up the entirety of the show.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 21:05 |
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Octorok posted:It's probably best not to dwell on it, since there's really no single phrase that can sum up the entirety of the show. Rusty (accidentally) does a good job right at the start: "All these zeroes are meaningless."
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 22:35 |
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If Venture Brothers isn't actually just a show about failure, than it not being about failure is ITSELF a meta-failure, and therefore it is a show about failure. But if it's about failure than it isn't failing at that, so there isn't any meta-failures, and so it isn't just a show about failure- 30 GOTO 10;
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 23:01 |
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Failure is a theme, don't overthink it.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 23:28 |
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I just thought it was funny that it was one of the first questions, and his response hah. The interview is interesting. Apparently Doc is more a painter than cartoonist/writer in his own mind. And what I thought was really interesting is that he doesn't see his followers as 1 community. You've got the fans of VB, Weep and his paintings, and they don't really overlap. Also he loves scratcher tattoos.
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# ? Dec 16, 2013 23:48 |
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deong posted:I just thought it was funny that it was one of the first questions, and his response hah. The interview is interesting. Apparently Doc is more a painter than cartoonist/writer in his own mind. And what I thought was really interesting is that he doesn't see his followers as 1 community. You've got the fans of VB, Weep and his paintings, and they don't really overlap. Also he loves scratcher tattoos. Although he hasn't posted a painting since 2004, his deviantart is goddamn phenomenal. I can't believe that he's self-taught.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 02:12 |
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People think that the show being about failure means no character can ever succeed.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 06:06 |
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Bored posted:Someone linked this is earlier in the thread. Okay, sure, Bowie's voice isn't, like, super different from Urbaniak's, but it's still brilliant. Having a beer Making popcorn ????? Checking my email http://vine.co/v/b6qd6pjmi3i
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 07:46 |
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RICKON WALNUTSBANE posted:Having a beer "Watching Girls" (HBO... it's bad don't actually watch it)
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 08:26 |
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LividLiquid posted:People think that the show being about failure means no character can ever succeed. Exactly. Failure is a core theme, including how people deal with and overcome failure. Like how Rusty and Jonas Jr. have been dealing with Jonas Sr.'s failure as a father for the entire series. It doesn't mean everyone is doomed to fail all the time.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 17:25 |
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namesake posted:Rusty (accidentally) does a good job right at the start: "All these zeroes are meaningless." Rusty is actually a incredibly good super scientist..... it just anything of his that works is all evil super science. So far he's (I'm probably forgetting a couple) 1. Almost found (and cured) the gay gene (government protest stopped him) 2. Brought corpse back to life 3. Clones for the boys 4. Built a pleasure chamber off the souls of orphan childen 5. Walking Eye
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 17:58 |
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BexGu posted:Rusty is actually a incredibly good super scientist..... it just anything of his that works is all evil super science. So far he's (I'm probably forgetting a couple) 6. The Boom Broom
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 18:03 |
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SRM posted:6. The Boom Broom 7. The Ooo Ray from the pilot 8. The portable force field that is weirdly susceptible to club soda.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 18:07 |
9. The teleporter that sliced him in thirds.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 18:09 |
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Data Graham posted:9. The teleporter that sliced him in thirds. That was JJ's work, Rusty just turned it on.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 18:15 |
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Bear Retrieval Unit posted:That was JJ's work, Rusty just turned it on. JJ did tell him there was some more testing needed, Rusty said it was done all it needed was a coat of paint.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 18:34 |
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I always felt that Rusty was just too lazy to actually see anything through. He thinks himself such a genius that the bare minimum effort is needed for anything, and so arrogant that he never second guesses himself.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 19:03 |
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twistedmentat posted:He thinks himself such a genius that the bare minimum effort is needed for anything, and so arrogant that he never second guesses himself. gently caress. My life.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 19:25 |
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twistedmentat posted:I always felt that Rusty was just too lazy to actually see anything through. He thinks himself such a genius that the bare minimum effort is needed for anything, and so arrogant that he never second guesses himself. I think part of it is that people just expect him to be some super genius because his dad was. It even shows that when he was little he didn't want to be a boy adventurer but his dad didnt care, and I bet when Rusty was teen/college age dad forced him into the super science thing. Rusty's laziness seems more like his way of rebelling than anything thing else. Now these last two seasons we see Rusty growing up. He is trying to get his life together but he has a very long way to go!
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 19:35 |
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BooDoug187 posted:I think part of it is that people just expect him to be some super genius because his dad was. It even shows that when he was little he didn't want to be a boy adventurer but his dad didnt care, and I bet when Rusty was teen/college age dad forced him into the super science thing. Rusty's laziness seems more like his way of rebelling than anything thing else. Now these last two seasons we see Rusty growing up. He is trying to get his life together but he has a very long way to go! His dad almost seemed to relish forcing him into it, like it was a fun game to torture him. "When your father turned from role model to tormentor rival" and stuff. Of course it doesn't stop Rusty from doing it to Dean, but Dean at least has a spine now and can say no. Also eliminating death is like the best scientific achievement possible, and while I'm sure his dad/Ben did most of the work, having the stones to implement it to protect his family is pretty noble and awesome.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 19:42 |
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10. An army of superpowered mutants 11. A machine that can peel back time and resurrect ghosts of the dead 12. An aphrodisiac that also turns women into horrible bug monsters Really Doctor Venture's worst problem is that he's awful at marketing. That forcefield he made was pretty good even if it could be penetrated by club soda, and there's been a couple times where he has outright refused to do a job that he was perfectly capable of doing on principle, like with Brisby and the Neo Nazis.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 20:05 |
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BexGu posted:5. Walking Eye Let me help you here with this one. 5. WALKING EYE!
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 21:22 |
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DrBouvenstein posted:7. The Ooo Ray from the pilot Who brings club soda to a battlefield anyway?
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 22:03 |
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Frostwerks posted:Who brings club soda to a battlefield anyway? I want to say British people for some reason.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 22:44 |
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What about the Sneakies? Those were cool.
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# ? Dec 17, 2013 23:43 |
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BooDoug187 posted:I want to say British people for some reason. I was really hoping somebody would post a picture of sterling archer.
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# ? Dec 18, 2013 00:26 |
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Non-cutting lightsaber
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# ? Dec 18, 2013 06:32 |
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DrBouvenstein posted:8. The portable force field that is weirdly susceptible to club soda. Well, let's be clear, club soda works on everything. Jeffrey posted:His dad almost seemed to relish forcing him into it, like it was a fun game to torture him. "When your father turned from role model to tormentor rival" and stuff. Of course it doesn't stop Rusty from doing it to Dean, but Dean at least has a spine now and can say no. Nah, he mentions more than once that the cloning was his "life's work", and that he'd have been loving golden if the government hadn't cracked down on cloning technology. The learning beds were leftover from Jonas, but I think Rusty adapted them to also serve as braindumps for the clones. I mean honestly just the cloning is a loving amazing achievement in itself. Just alter the clone slugs so they never develop brains, and voila! you have an organ donation farm. Imagine mass-producing organs of all blood types so that we never lacked donor organs again. And medical research! Imagine what kind of disease and pharmaceutical studies could be done if you had an endless supply of brainless human bodies to experiment with! Rusty's an rear end, but he's also got some legitimate reasons to be angry at the world. Imagine if you spent twenty years achieving a goddamn miracle of science and technology, with the potential to both revolutionize medical science and guarantee a lifetime of respect (and riches), and loving cheated death... and were then told "nope sorry, gently caress off and never do anything with it again".
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# ? Dec 18, 2013 20:45 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:
Or even worse: "Hey, could you create something more like your dad did?"
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# ? Dec 18, 2013 22:07 |
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I think Rusty's whole mental situation was summed up perfectly by 21 in the season 1-4 recap. "Doc Venture used to be one of those kid adventurers on a TV show, and it totally messed him up." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CHVLSY_Hrk If his father hadn't dragged him into all that crazy poo poo, he might be a (relatively) normal super-scientist.
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# ? Dec 18, 2013 22:44 |
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prefect posted:I think Rusty's whole mental situation was summed up perfectly by 21 in the season 1-4 recap. I mean if you spent half your life kidnaped by costumed freaks, almost killed (or had worse happen to you, like what happend to the boys before Sgt Hatred got "treated") I think you would be messed up too!
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 17:52 |
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BooDoug187 posted:I mean if you spent half your life kidnaped by costumed freaks, almost killed (or had worse happen to you, like what happend to the boys before Sgt Hatred got "treated") I think you would be messed up too! "Not today Rusty!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTHVTcdp7Ps
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 18:52 |
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Rusty's an rear end, but he's also got some legitimate reasons to be angry at the world. Imagine if you spent twenty years achieving a goddamn miracle of science and technology, with the potential to both revolutionize medical science and guarantee a lifetime of respect (and riches), and loving cheated death... and were then told "nope sorry, gently caress off and never do anything with it again". (Bolding mine.) That makes me think of something...after he perfected the cloning, why didn't he start cloning himself? Like...keep a few clones of himself around, and sleep in a modified learning bed to record his memories too, and tell Brock that if he dies, go ahead and "use" one of the clones? Yeah, the clones would be much younger versions of himself, but that really seems almost like a bonus. As soon as you use one, put another in the tank, and always have a few spares for accidental death, and you can live into your mid 40's or 50, kill yourself, and voila, brand new 20-something year old body. Do the same with Brock (well, if he wants) so that only one person has to "keep the secret" and gives him incentive to stick around to ensure you don't die without someone forgetting to tale a new clone-slug out of the tube. If anyone asks, just say you perfected a youth treatment, not cloning, and that for "science reasons" it only works with your DNA so you cant' sell it.
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 20:23 |
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DrBouvenstein posted:(Bolding mine.) Not doing this very thing for every single person is the greatest *failure* of in the universe of the show.
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 20:26 |
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DrBouvenstein posted:(Bolding mine.) But he, himself, would die. Sure, a clone with his memories upto a few days or weeks (maybe months depending on how long the "mission" that took his life was) would be alive, but not the Rusty Venture he knows. It'll be some other Rusty Venture. He probably had bad feelings about the second Hank and Dean not being the real Hank and Dean but then got over it - part of the comedic sociopathy everyone in this show has. (edit: hell, Dean got over the fact that he was a clone, eventually) I don't think he had the whole thing planned out from the start, he cobbled it together when the boys first died. Sure, you can play Eclipse Phase and think "Hey, technical immortality is cool!" but your character isn't going to be slitting their throat to give the "ride" a try. It could make sense in an "emergency backup" plan, but then he could think that the idea that he would "survive" in such a way would sit at the back of his head and dull his "fight or flight" senses and thus lead to his first death. This is Rusty Venture - I think he'd rather he doesn't die at all.
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# ? Dec 19, 2013 21:00 |
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LashLightning posted:But he, himself, would die. Sure, a clone with his memories upto a few days or weeks (maybe months depending on how long the "mission" that took his life was) would be alive, but not the Rusty Venture he knows. It'll be some other Rusty Venture. Whenever a discussion of cloning comes up, it always reminds me of this old cartoon... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxucpPq6Lc
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