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Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
Those are both solid. The 3100 is where they start improving from the baseline. I'd check both. Some folks can't do maple fretboards for some reason.

The lack of fret markers on the purple one may or may not be a hassle for a novice.

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Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

PaganGoatPants posted:

These are 2 Rondo's near me I'm looking at. Seem ok? (besides me going and actually seeing them, probably tomorrow, I'm a nub :downs:).

One
Two

I personally love maple fretboard guitars, although the back of the neck should really be satin, but the cherry burst looks better than the purple. Tough choice but I'm sure both would be decent to try.

jwh
Jun 12, 2002

I like the cherry burst 3100.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

comes along bort posted:


Of course I say that and then there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib_u1ymiC4o

It's interesting you posted this, because I went out and got myself a Mooer Rage Machine, which is a clone of a Death Metal. It makes my strat sound pretty huge, here's a demo video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBsAHFPF03w

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx
Why would someone clone a pedal that's still easily available and only costs half as much?

Oh.....

Stravinsky
May 31, 2011

Gotta pay the price if you want to tell people you have boutique pedals.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Verizian posted:

There are lots of smartphone tuning apps that work great for both Android and iOS, especially Pitchlab for Android but I really have to ask. Why the freezer?

I let people drink the beer in my fridge and booze in my freezer to empty it out for moving. Someone must have set it down in the freezer to get some tasty vodka out, then never picked it back up. Didn't discover it until we were all unpacked in the new place :(

edit: My wife's taking me amp shopping for christmas tomorrow. What should I be looking for in the beginner, sub $200 range if I mostly play basic punk and stuff with basic open chords?

Remulak
Jun 8, 2001
I can't count to four.
Yams Fan

LeftistMuslimObama posted:


edit: My wife's taking me amp shopping for christmas tomorrow. What should I be looking for in the beginner, sub $200 range if I mostly play basic punk and stuff with basic open chords?
Fender mustang I or Ii depending on the loudness and speaker size you want. Or line 6 Spider IV, either the 15 or 30 watt size.

Dirt
May 26, 2003

So I saw my uncle play last night. He is the quintessential bluesdad, except he is really goddamn good. He has been playing for ~40 years or so. He taught me a lot when I started.

Here is what blew my mind though: He recently sold all his gear(strats on strats, bunch of amps, pedals, etc, a huge bluesdad collection), and was playing with just a stock Squire tele with a humbucker in the bridge/Single in the neck, to a Joyo tube screamer clone, into a solid state fender amp.

Tone for days.
Like face melting tone.


It really is all in your fingers, kids.

Dirt fucked around with this message at 20:56 on Dec 21, 2013

PaganGoatPants
Jan 18, 2012

TODAY WAS THE SPECIAL SALE DAY!
Grimey Drawer

Dirt posted:

It really is all in your fingers, kids.

Now you tell me.

nrr
Jan 2, 2007

where can I get me some vintage '59 fingers

Dirt
May 26, 2003

nrr posted:

where can I get me some vintage '59 fingers

This is the future of tone. 3D printed 50 year old blues dad fingers.


Sign me up.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

LeftistMuslimObama posted:

I let people drink the beer in my fridge and booze in my freezer to empty it out for moving. Someone must have set it down in the freezer to get some tasty vodka out, then never picked it back up. Didn't discover it until we were all unpacked in the new place :(

edit: My wife's taking me amp shopping for christmas tomorrow. What should I be looking for in the beginner, sub $200 range if I mostly play basic punk and stuff with basic open chords?

For chillin at home?

You may can find a used Fender Excelsior for that price.

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

Dirt posted:

blues dad

Can we please let this die?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85v4T-Q51io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwalj_BhkbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvpXSPtZfeE

Haw haw blues dad because rich ppl les paul i-iv-v, right guys? RIGHT? :haw:

Warcabbit
Apr 26, 2008

Wedge Regret
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGEf3o7WE_c Rockdad?

Dirt
May 26, 2003

Southern Heel posted:

Can we please let this die?


Give it around 40 years and I am sure most of them will be dead.

It's a real thing though, not just a stupid meme that gets tossed around.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン

Southern Heel posted:

Can we please let this die?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85v4T-Q51io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwalj_BhkbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvpXSPtZfeE

Haw haw blues dad because rich ppl les paul i-iv-v, right guys? RIGHT? :haw:

Lighten up dingleberry

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Southern Heel posted:

Can we please let this die?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85v4T-Q51io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwalj_BhkbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvpXSPtZfeE

Haw haw blues dad because rich ppl les paul i-iv-v, right guys? RIGHT? :haw:

...

Not a single one of these guys played a PRS.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Bluesdads own. The real enemy of guitar is scrawny 18 year olds with 8 strings and huge racks.

Ericadia
Oct 31, 2007

Not A Unicorn

Dirt posted:

It's a real thing though, not just a stupid meme that gets tossed around.

These guys make up like 1/3rd of most suburban music scenes. It is totally a real thing. I only know of one blues band in town that has members under the age of 30.

I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, but it is definitely a thing.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Kilometers Davis posted:

Bluesdads own. The real enemy of guitar is scrawny 18 year olds with 8 strings and huge racks.

Pedalkids are pretty awful too.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Zuhzuhzombie!! posted:

Pedalkids are pretty awful too.

As much as I love dudes like nick reinhardt for being truly innovative and actually using huge rear end pedalboards I agree. The math rock/post rock genre is full of it and it's dumb.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Kilometers Davis posted:

Bluesdads own. The real enemy of guitar is scrawny 18 year olds with 8 strings and huge racks.

You can imagine how I feel buying packs of 7-strings. "I just don't like loving around with tuning all night" versus "yeah man, heavy tones bro"

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Kilometers Davis posted:

Bluesdads own. The real enemy of guitar is scrawny 18 year olds with 8 strings and huge racks.

It's cool yo just patch my Axe-FX to FOH. Nobody's ears will bleed from the artifacts at 110dB plus.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Picked up one the Ultra Comfort Levys straps locally for about $5 more than what they go for on ebay.


Makes the Agile so much more manageable with that padding and little bit of stretch. Also, the stock pickups don't sound terrible through the Crate V32.

Ericadia
Oct 31, 2007

Not A Unicorn

comes along bort posted:

It's cool yo just patch my Axe-FX to FOH. Nobody's ears will bleed from the artifacts at 110dB plus.

Does this actually happen? (Genuinely curious)

Also, bluesdads will eventually be replaced by punkdads.

The MUMPSorceress
Jan 6, 2012


^SHTPSTS

Gary’s Answer

Remulak posted:

Fender mustang I or Ii depending on the loudness and speaker size you want. Or line 6 Spider IV, either the 15 or 30 watt size.

Ended up with the 30 watt spider IV. The mustang that had at the store had really weird presets and they all sounded kinda terrible. The spider sounded exactly how I wanted, and my lame powerchord riffing actually drew a couple compliments which was pretty unexpected. I guess people still like Welcome to Paradise all these years later :)

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Southern Heel posted:

Can we please let this die?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85v4T-Q51io
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwalj_BhkbQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvpXSPtZfeE

Haw haw blues dad because rich ppl les paul i-iv-v, right guys? RIGHT? :haw:

Stevie Ray Vaughn was a good blues player. Most guys seeking to emulate him are not good blues players.

Kilometers Davis posted:

As much as I love dudes like nick reinhardt for being truly innovative and actually using huge rear end pedalboards I agree. The math rock/post rock genre is full of it and it's dumb.

Nick Reinhardt's music has gotten better as he's played less. You'd think other math rock dudes would notice but nooooope

Ericadia posted:

These guys make up like 1/3rd of most suburban music scenes. It is totally a real thing. I only know of one blues band in town that has members under the age of 30.

I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing, but it is definitely a thing.

On the other hand, psychadelicdads are the best and are also a (much smaller) thing.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Declan MacManus posted:


On the other hand, psychadelicdads are the best and are also a (much smaller) thing.

Better taste in tunes too. Tend to be better players as well since they listen to everything from the Dead to Yes.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Declan MacManus posted:

Stevie Ray Vaughn was a good blues player. Most guys seeking to emulate him are not good blues players.


Nick Reinhardt's music has gotten better as he's played less. You'd think other math rock dudes would notice but nooooope

He's one of the more tasteful players around. It's certainly great how he inspired a bunch of guitarists to get into weird spazzy guitar and they all started circle jerking the sound until it was as stale as TxFloodad67's best of SRV covers playlist. Music is fluid!

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

Ericadia posted:

Does this actually happen? (Genuinely curious)


Yeah, that's like half their selling point; no need for a backline. Also it's led to a niche market for FRFR speakers. Or do you mean the ear-bleeding part? Because depending on where you're standing when a band's using them, definitely.

quote:

Also, bluesdads will eventually be replaced by punkdads.
They're around, but metaldads are becoming way more common.




Kilometers Davis posted:

He's one of the more tasteful players around. It's certainly great how he inspired a bunch of guitarists to get into weird spazzy guitar and they all started circle jerking the sound until it was as stale as TxFloodad67's best of SRV covers playlist. Music is fluid!

Well it's that thing where one person or a small handful of people do something innately well and a bunch of not as talented people try to copy that thinking it's a shortcut to success or excellence or whatever rather than figuring out their own thing and learning to play to their own strengths. It's also why the thrash revival scene is just abysmal.

Alec Bald Snatch fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Dec 22, 2013

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Electronic and guitarless music is increasingly en vogue so sampling and resampling your own playing in order to make it sound more artificial or processed is a natural extension of/reaction to popular trends. I'm surprised more guitarists don't experiment with feedback/noise, though.

Stravinsky
May 31, 2011

Declan MacManus posted:

I'm surprised more guitarists don't experiment with feedback/noise, though.

Yes, hello hi.

Ericadia
Oct 31, 2007

Not A Unicorn

comes along bort posted:

Yeah, that's like half their selling point; no need for a backline. Also it's led to a niche market for FRFR speakers. Or do you mean the ear-bleeding part? Because depending on where you're standing when a band's using them, definitely.

Was talking about the ear bleeding part. I've never heard an Axe-FX or a Kemper etc live.

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Declan MacManus posted:

Electronic and guitarless music is increasingly en vogue so sampling and resampling your own playing in order to make it sound more artificial or processed is a natural extension of/reaction to popular trends. I'm surprised more guitarists don't experiment with feedback/noise, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92dhekq9BdQ


Been a fan of theirs for a good long while. Started out as an Earth/Sunn type thing. First demo was recorded at Joe Preston's house. Then moved to a Stars of the Lid kinda thing and were on Kranky for a bit.

Not as big a fan now.

Stars of the Lid is largely a guitar based ambient duo as well, for anyone unfamiliar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1mpNE-2EBo

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Stravinsky posted:

Yes, hello hi.

My dog hates it but she never really got into Big Black

Castor Poe
Jul 19, 2010

Jar Jar is the key to all of this.
I just bought my first Les Paul (an Epiphone 57' Goldtop) and can't decide if I should remove the pickguard or not.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
On a gold top it stays on. This is a rule!!!

Xabi
Jan 21, 2006

Inventor of the Marmite pasty
It should always stay on tbf.

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ScienceAndMusic
Feb 16, 2012

CANNOT STOP SHITPOSTING FOR FIVE MINUTES
So I read the op and saw the budget recommendations. But I was wondering if anyone had a personal recommendation for a good starting electric guitar specifically for rock smith. I have no experience and just want something reasonable priced.

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