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1st AD posted:lol is this for real? Because if so thank god, Inspector Spacetime is the worst thing ever. All i know is Dan Harmon said there'd be no more inspector spacetime in season 5, due to legal issues if nothing else. But that was pretty early on when they were shooting season 5, so I could be wrong. I hope it's still true because, as you say, Inspector Spacetime was always garbage. Edit: This isn't the interview I was talking about, but it was the closest thing to confirmation I could find on short notice: "Harmon has stressed the importance of spending more time on character development, which is why the first few episodes of Season 5 are not larger than life, like Community's famous paintball installments. And some ideas - like Abed's favorite TV show, Inspector Spacetime - were so overused last year that Harmon decided to retire them." http://www.hannibal.net/article/20131224/NEWS/312249988?template=printart
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All I've heard was that Harmon felt they went too into the Inspector Spacetime gag and it certainly won't be as prevalent if it shows up at all. Maybe a poster in the background or something.
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Dec 30, 2013 21:31
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It was already clear in season 4 that the inspector spacetime show wouldn't be back in a significant way: it was revamped (to the lowest common denominator) for american audiences and therefore ruined for Abed (by Pierce in the focus group) ; a fitting end to the whole thing actually..
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Dec 30, 2013 22:13
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Maybe you guys are confusing it with the actor who played Inspector Spacetime trying to Kickstart an Inspector Spacetime web series only to be threatened with legal action and fired from the show since he doesn't actually own the character.
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Dec 30, 2013 22:14
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Uh, I think you mean Untitled Web Series About A Space Traveler Who Can Also Travel Through Time. Totally different.
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Dec 30, 2013 22:32
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MrAristocrates posted:Uh, I think you mean Untitled Web Series About A Space Traveler Who Can Also Travel Through Time. Totally different. The first installment of his Inspector Spacetime series has 150k views. The last installment, 10k. He ran that poo poo into the ground all right.
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Dec 30, 2013 22:40
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Maybe you guys are confusing it with the actor who played Inspector Spacetime trying to Kickstart an Inspector Spacetime web series only to be threatened with legal action and fired from the show since he doesn't actually own the character. No I remember a Harmontown podcast- the same one where he brought up some loony fans to discuss his harmonisms and saying stupid poo poo that gets mentioned on various sites- where he said something like there was a lot of legal stuff in using Inspector Spacetime and it was some guy's job to watch all episodes of Dr Who and make sure the Spacetime stuff wasn't too close to copyright infringement. Good riddance.
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Dec 30, 2013 22:54
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I still believe that the overwhelming response to Inspector Spacetime came not, primarily, from Community fans, but from Doctor Who fans. They're the ones who latched onto it and made pages and pages about it, copying everything from Who and changing it slightly, cause isn't it funny if we call an episode that was titled "Turn Left," "Turn Right?" Get it? hahaha.
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Dec 30, 2013 22:59
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:some guy's job to watch all episodes of Dr Who A fate worse than death right here.
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Dec 30, 2013 23:33
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That makes no sense to me because the Inspector Spacetime stuff really never went much further than "Look, Blorgons!" It was a pretty shallow parody, all things considered. I don't understand why they'd need to check for infringement.
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Dec 30, 2013 23:47
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Pierce inadvertently ruining the show was by far the best part of the convention episode and one of the few things Season 4 did right. There isn't a single good reason to bring it back again and Harmon knows it.
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Dec 31, 2013 00:06
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I'm still sad at the lost opportunity of having Neil Gaiman write a Community bit based on Inspector Spacetime with Karen Gillian (one of the Doctor's former companions) as a guest star. Maybe for the sixth season, I'm hoping...
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Dec 31, 2013 00:07
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Or we could all wake up tomorrow to a reality where Dr. Who and, by extension, Inspector Spacetime never existed. That's the best possible scenario for me.
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Dec 31, 2013 00:10
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Gaiman writing an episode and Karen Gillan guest starring are things I'd be down with with or without any relation to Doctor Who.
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Oh Snapple! posted:Or we could all wake up tomorrow to a reality where Dr. Who and, by extension, Inspector Spacetime never existed.That's the best possible scenario for me. You and me both, brother.
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Dec 31, 2013 00:16
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Doctor Who is great, but gently caress Inspector Spacetime.
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Oh Snapple! posted:Or we could all wake up tomorrow to a reality where Dr. Who and, by extension, Inspector Spacetime never existed.
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Dec 31, 2013 00:34
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AFoolAndHisMoney posted:it was some guy's job to watch all episodes of Dr Who 
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Dec 31, 2013 01:02
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Rumor has it they subjected an unpaid intern to a "modified Ludovico technique". Truly, Dan Harmon's cruelty knows no bounds.
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Dec 31, 2013 01:24
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MrAristocrates posted:That makes no sense to me because the Inspector Spacetime stuff really never went much further than "Look, Blorgons!" It was a pretty shallow parody, all things considered. I don't understand why they'd need to check for infringement. Plus, I think they've done more than that. I've heard that there's some kind of Inspector Spacetime convention episode in season four that's filled with characters and references, but I can't be sure because I might have dreamt about it during a bout with food poisoning.
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Dec 31, 2013 01:29
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Killing Inspector Spacetime and breaking up Britta & Troy's half-baked romance were two long term plot things that season 4 got right. On the other hand, it sucks that they blew Jeff's dad being revealed, since Dan Harmon had originally wanted to get Bill Murray to play him.
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Dec 31, 2013 03:31
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super fart shooter posted:Killing Inspector Spacetime and breaking up Britta & Troy's half-baked romance were two long term plot things that season 4 got right. On the other hand, it sucks that they blew Jeff's dad being revealed, since Dan Harmon had originally wanted to get Bill Murray to play him. Let's Chips was a decent running gag that wasn't run into the ground. 
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Dec 31, 2013 03:35
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Last Chance posted:Did you study law at Greendale? The post I was responding to mentioned Dan Harmon saying that they needed a guy to make sure they weren't infringing. I hear Dan Harmon wasn't involved with Season 4 or something, I might be wrong.
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Dec 31, 2013 03:43
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I can believe the lawyering talk. Even Paramount's mighty legal department threw in the towel and told the Star Trek: DS9 writers to give up on more James Bond-esque holosuite episodes.
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Dec 31, 2013 06:16
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Sorry for mentioning that earlier without including a link: http://harmontown.com/podcast/76 It starts at about 43:00.
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Dec 31, 2013 06:27
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MrAristocrates posted:That makes no sense to me because the Inspector Spacetime stuff really never went much further than "Look, Blorgons!" It was a pretty shallow parody, all things considered. I don't understand why they'd need to check for infringement. Usually when two shows are rammin together consonants and vowels to make funny words they're both safe just doing whatever. But when show A has a 50 year omni-media prescense, show B has to be careful not to accidentally reuse anything from show A.
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So it sounds like season 4 was disappointing, but season 5 will be a nice return to form? I mean, it seems very agreeable that s4 is the worst of Community so far. (I watched all of season 4, but I barely remember any of it, and I think I remember puppets killing most of my love for the show)
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I just saw that the writers of season 4 did an Ask Me Anything on Reddit about a year ago and it's kind of heartbreaking to see nice, funny human beings associated with that garbage.  quote:Q: Is there any episode or scene that you wish you could have a redo, because you were never satisfied with how it read or because you came up with an alternate punchline that worked way better? 
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Dec 31, 2013 13:08
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I know almost nothing about copyright law, but there's something I'm confused about. Why exactly would NBC and Community need to be careful with the legal stuff with Inspector Spacetime when it's a parody? I thought parodies were supposed to be protected under Fair Use laws?
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BreakAtmo posted:I know almost nothing about copyright law, but there's something I'm confused about. Why exactly would NBC and Community need to be careful with the legal stuff with Inspector Spacetime when it's a parody? I thought parodies were supposed to be protected under Fair Use laws? Fair Use only exists in the US. The UK/Commonwealth mostly has "Fair Dealing", which doesn't always cover parody. For example, here in Canada, we don't have strong parody exceptions like the US, unfortunately: quote:Unlike fair use in the United States, which recognizes that parody can be fair, fair dealing in Canada has not definitely been found to contain exceptions for parody. Apparently a bill had been introduced a few years ago that would have fixed that, but then our government had to call an election, and it died in the process. (It looks like the UK is currently considering a similar addition to their fair dealing laws.) So I'm guessing, if you're dealing with a UK property (and want to syndicate your own show that's parodying it in the UK), you might have to be a bit more careful since they don't seem to have those exceptions concretely set in law, yet. thexerox123 fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Dec 31, 2013 |
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Do we even have a proper quote that lawyers were involved? It's probably more that it was dumb and over used by the time they had the episode around the convention, which was less bad than feared but still over used.
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Nevvy Z posted:Do we even have a proper quote that lawyers were involved? It's probably more that it was dumb and over used by the time they had the episode around the convention, which was less bad than feared but still over used. You could've listened to it for yourself? AFoolAndHisMoney posted:Sorry for mentioning that earlier without including a link: "I'm sorry There's no inspector Spacetime in season 5 as of right now ... I've talked about this before; Inspector Spacetime had a really lofty goal, I wanted it to be what it did start to become- the show dialoging with the fans. But what happened was that it became so successful at it that Sony legal kinda panicked- not to villify them, they didn't really realize what they were getting into- and there was some poor guy at Sony Legal who's job was to watch all the Doctor Whos.... some poor guy in a tie- I picture him in a tie- with a little adding machine at his desk, writing these emails, "This is obviously a reference to K9- you cant kid a kidder! It's a robot cat and a robot dog, we get it!". Like, he had to take all the minutia." I don't know why anybody cares one way or another, honestly.
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VagueRant posted:I just saw that the writers of season 4 did an Ask Me Anything on Reddit about a year ago and it's kind of heartbreaking to see nice, funny human beings associated with that garbage. In my opinion, the Halloween episode was terrible and I can't believe they are proud of those two jokes they had to cut.
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VagueRant posted:I just saw that the writers of season 4 did an Ask Me Anything on Reddit about a year ago and it's kind of heartbreaking to see nice, funny human beings associated with that garbage. On the one hand, I feel really bad for Megan because of that first quote. That sounds exactly like something Harmon would say and it's sad to see that the show broke her like that. On the other hand, according to the Season 3 commentary she's the reason Britta got so dumb later in the show so eff her.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Usually when two shows are rammin together consonants and vowels to make funny words they're both safe just doing whatever. But when show A has a 50 year omni-media prescense, show B has to be careful not to accidentally reuse anything from show A. Doctor Who is the sci fi equivalent of "the Simpsons did it".
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Chexoid posted:On the other hand, according to the Season 3 commentary she's the reason Britta got so dumb later in the show so eff her. That's really weird. I wonder why they decided to go down that path. I guess because the jokes are easier to write.
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Jan 1, 2014 19:15
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It's very strange to think that in a year or so I'll own seasons 1-3, 5 of Community and not 4.
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superjew posted:It's very strange to think that in a year or so I'll own seasons 1-3, 5 of Community and not 4. I envy your lack of season 4. Now I feel obligated to watch the Christmas episode every year.
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Reviews for the first few episodes of season five are starting to come in: http://www.avclub.com/review/community-returns-200723 http://www.hitfix.com/whats-alan-watching/review-community-returns-to-its-old-self-with-dan-harmon-back-in-charge tl,dr: First episode's a bit slow due to cleanup, second episode is good, fourth episode is really good.
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