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Fozzy The Bear posted:the group taking the steroids gained muscle YOU DON"T SAY!
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Fozzy The Bear posted:Random question, I made a bet with my friend that steroids help you if you train or not. I remember reading here on PSP about 4-6 months ago about this study that a group doing no exercise gained 7 pounds of muscle vs the control group. I've googled my hardest, but I can't find that study anymore. Anyone have a link? I had it before and couldn't find it, but I just put "steroid study" into google and it popped up first result. http://www.aworkoutroutine.com/steroids-vs-natural/
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MagicCube posted:I had it before and couldn't find it, but I just put "steroid study" into google and it popped up first result. I bow to your K-1 level googling.
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When did GSP stop break-dancing?
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LordPants posted:When did GSP stop break-dancing? After breakdancing on top of Nick Diaz for 25 minutes, GSP felt that he had done all that he could do with the art form and packed it in.
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LordPants posted:When did GSP stop break-dancing? He only does that after a finish. 
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Do you guys think size is correlated with chin strength? That is, heavyweights can take more of a punch. I think they probably can, but chin strength doesn't increase with size as much as punching power does so thats why you see more knockouts in the heavier divisions.
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JohnsonsJohnson posted:Do you guys think size is correlated with chin strength? That is, heavyweights can take more of a punch. I think they probably can, but chin strength doesn't increase with size as much as punching power does so thats why you see more knockouts in the heavier divisions. Brock Lesnar's reaction to being hit in the face ruins your theory.
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Smegmatron posted:Brock Lesnar's reaction to being hit in the face ruins your theory. Not to digress too far from the original question and make this a Brock discussion, but the concept of good or bad chin refers to your brain's physical reaction to being punched in the face, not your mental reactions. Having a bad chin equals to having a brain that shuts off easily due to trauma. Having a bad chin does not equal to panicking easily. Brock fought guys like Shane Carwin and Overeem without ever being knocked unconscious, so even if he may have reacted poorly to being punched, his chin held up pretty good. His gut, on the other hand... ed: To contribute, don't neck muscles add to having a good chin? That might add to the argument that heavyweights have better chins. gunblade fucked around with this message at 14:55 on Jan 2, 2014 |
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I'm pretty sure nobody has definitive proof over what gives someone a good vs bad chin.
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JohnsonsJohnson posted:Do you guys think size is correlated with chin strength? That is, heavyweights can take more of a punch. I think they probably can, but chin strength doesn't increase with size as much as punching power does so thats why you see more knockouts in the heavier divisions. There are more finishes at heavyweight than any other division (flyweight might give them a run for their money last year) so I'm guessing the answer is no. Obviously the main reasons for increased finishes are the skill and size disparities at heavyweight, but I imagine if there was a relative increase in your chin hit points it would mitigate that.
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There's way too many variables involved too - Shogun hit Machida with the exact same punch in both fights, but only in the 2nd fight did Machida get KO'd.
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JohnsonsJohnson posted:Do you guys think size is correlated with chin strength? That is, heavyweights can take more of a punch. I think they probably can, but chin strength doesn't increase with size as much as punching power does so thats why you see more knockouts in the heavier divisions. the idea of "chin" is less important than the idea of "not getting hit directly in the chin"
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like can andrei arolvski take a punch? yes. he can take a punch directly onto the chin in every fight because his arms are always straight out and his eyes are always closed.
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Dangersim posted:I'm pretty sure nobody has definitive proof over what gives someone a good vs bad chin. The only factor that seems to consistently correlate with chin is a good gas tank. A lot of guys with notable cardio like Condit, Nate/Nick Diaz, Diego Sanchez, Frankie Edgar, and Clay Guida are also notably difficult to stop. It's not so much that they're more resistant to getting hurt, but that they seem more able to survive and recover quickly. That being said, BJ Penn has never even been knocked down, and Hendo is notoriously difficult to stop as well.
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EvanSchenck posted:The only factor that seems to consistently correlate with chin is a good gas tank. A lot of guys with notable cardio like Condit, Nate/Nick Diaz, Diego Sanchez, Frankie Edgar, and Clay Guida are also notably difficult to stop. It's not so much that they're more resistant to getting hurt, but that they seem more able to survive and recover quickly. Nah its not good cardio that gives you a good chin. Theres traditionally a difference between chin and recovery/toughness whatever you want to call that intangible. Lots of guys with middling to awful cardio like Hunt, roy nelson, back to "cabbage" correira all have some of the best chins. not to mention all the guys in boxing who defy that Nobody really knows what makes someone have a good chin. Being younger means your chin is better, the less times youve been knocked out the better, the less weight you cut and better hydrated you are (the cushioning in between your skull and brain) are all really strong factors. Other factors like race and body type play into it, fat guys tend to have better chins. The size and structure of your head makes a difference according to boxing lore. Heavyweights probably have stronger chins on average but like the original question assumed, it doesnt scale completely to punching power. It would be hard for a 135er to knock out most heavyweights. But the other thing is how good your defense is and how well you roll with punches and dont put yourself in bad spots. Lots of guys with legendary chins like Hunt are just really good at absorbing shots well and can be cracked (like in the manhoef fight) by accidentally running into a hard shot right on the chin. Nobodys chin is that great in the end
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im now a licensed mma/boxing judge in the grand state of mississippi, how do i be better than adalaide byrd?
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John Cena posted:im now a licensed mma/boxing judge in the grand state of mississippi, how do i be better than adalaide byrd? this is for real btw.
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1) LASIK 2) (seriously there are a lot of judging seminars from serious dudes like Herb Dean, take one of those, and pay attention)
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John Cena posted:im now a licensed mma/boxing judge in the grand state of mississippi, how do i be better than adalaide byrd? Give out 10-8s and 10-10s when appropriate.
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John Cena posted:im now a licensed mma/boxing judge in the grand state of mississippi, how do i be better than adalaide byrd? Watch a lot of fights would be my suggestion. Also get a cursory knowledge of bjj if you don't already.
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gunblade posted:Not to digress too far from the original question and make this a Brock discussion, but the concept of good or bad chin refers to your brain's physical reaction to being punched in the face, not your mental reactions. Having a bad chin equals to having a brain that shuts off easily due to trauma. Having a bad chin does not equal to panicking easily. I have heard of the neck muscle theory as well, as the Klitschko's swear by it and train their necks religiously. Supposedly a strong neck is better at resisting the twisting force of a received punch and reduces the brain-rattling effect. There's also a belief that the nerve behind the jaw known as "The Button" can be better protected by having thick neck muscles.
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BlindSite posted:Watch a lot of fights would be my suggestion. Also get a cursory knowledge of bjj if you don't already. i have limited jits knowledge, where can i expand it
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How limited are we talking, as in you know the difference between guard, half guard, side control, full mount, back mount etc, or do you understand what it looks like when someone on top is scrambling on the defensive because someone on the bottom is attacking effectively? The latter can become important in a lot of fights because there's been a lot of bad decisions where someone's getting tagged on the feet and stall in their opponents guard for the majority of the round defending and escaping submission attempts but only holding the position where you could argue the fighter on the bottom actually dominated the rounds grappling but it goes to the guy in top position.
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i know the positionings and what the purpose of each one is, and i have a general strong understanding of the ground game, ie what techniques are used from an offensive standpoint and defensive. i have the basics understood, but if theres more that i should know about i'd be happy to know as much as possible
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John Cena posted:i know the positionings and what the purpose of each one is, and i have a general strong understanding of the ground game, ie what techniques are used from an offensive standpoint and defensive. i have the basics understood, but if theres more that i should know about i'd be happy to know as much as possible Just do jiu-jitsu, it's fun. red19fire posted:I have heard of the neck muscle theory as well, as the Klitschko's swear by it and train their necks religiously. Supposedly a strong neck is better at resisting the twisting force of a received punch and reduces the brain-rattling effect. There's also a belief that the nerve behind the jaw known as "The Button" can be better protected by having thick neck muscles. This is ironic considering the Klitchko's have a reputation of having weak chins.
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John Cena posted:i know the positionings and what the purpose of each one is, and i have a general strong understanding of the ground game, ie what techniques are used from an offensive standpoint and defensive. i have the basics understood, but if theres more that i should know about i'd be happy to know as much as possible Like Dangersim said, if you do BJJ you'll gain a much greater appreciation for the nuances even if you don't train all the time. It's hard to describe how someone with a good top game can be really stifling until you've experienced it yourself. Also, you should start a thread (unless there's an MMA judging thread already?) and then post your scorecards plus your justifications for the rounds. You likely won't be judging any big time fights but many fights are available on AXS or even Youtube these days so we can kind of grade you on your performance 
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i don't really have the money to take BJJ, but if i do wind up getting to judge some fights, i'll be sure to promote the shows in the b-league thread.
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John Cena posted:this is for real btw. How did you manage this? I'll second that BJJ is really cool. Even if you have no interest in fighting or exercise, it's a chill and fun thing to do.
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i applied and paid for the license this morning, got an email later in the day saying that i've been approved and will be receiving my notarized license in the mail.
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John Cena posted:i have limited jits knowledge
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John Cena posted:i applied and paid for the license this morning, got an email later in the day saying that i've been approved and will be receiving my notarized license in the mail. That's all? poo poo.
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John Cena posted:i applied and paid for the license this morning, got an email later in the day saying that i've been approved and will be receiving my notarized license in the mail. Wow, sounds like they really put you through the wringer
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Question 1: Do y'all feel like ya know a lot about wrasslin'?
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i have been banned for life from the team takedown forums so i consider myself something of an expert
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John Cena posted:i don't really have the money to take BJJ, but if i do wind up getting to judge some fights, i'll be sure to promote the shows in the b-league thread. At least now you can make the cost of BJJ lessons a business expense/tax write off.
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So the UFC thread rejoiced over the news of Keith Kizer resigning from the NSAC. Why do goons hate him?
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Forceholy posted:So the UFC thread rejoiced over the news of Keith Kizer resigning from the NSAC. As far as I know, he doesn't like John McCarthy, won't allow TRT exemptions to fighters and weird views on judging. edit: As for the judges, he is on record saying that he had Pac ahead against Bradley, and had Phan-Garcia 3-0 still defended the judges as being right in both cases. algebra testes fucked around with this message at 09:53 on Jan 11, 2014 |
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His response to repeated terrible officiating, especially boxing judging, was basically "eh, whatddya gonna do?"
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