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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Only if he doesn't spend most of the season stuck in the Troy-hole. I'm hoping that the link that Shirley and Abed appeared to forge this week will be one of his lifelines once Troy leaves.
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Pinwiz11 posted:I'm hoping that the link that Shirley and Abed appeared to forge this week will be one of his lifelines once Troy leaves. I hope so too. Especially with Shirleys family being gone, I can see her taking on a role of looking out for Abed after Troy leaves. Not in a mothering aspect as such, but more things like when she saved his rear end when he was making ABED.
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Pinwiz11 posted:I'm hoping that the link that Shirley and Abed appeared to forge this week will be one of his lifelines once Troy leaves. She will clutch on to him like she did a bottle of booze in the bad old days.
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The Dark One posted:She will clutch on to him like she did a bottle of booze in the bad old days. Oh god.. what if the troll comes back for Troy? What if this is how we lose him.
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All I want is for Danny Pudi to do more physical comedy. Because him crawling on a desk? That was glorious. It harkened back to when Abed decided to impersonate a vampire to pick up a woman, and walked around the cafeteria hissing.
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I wonder, with Troy leaving, if they are going to bring back Rachel. It'd be nice to see Abed normalize a bit with a nice girl.
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Oz posted:I wonder, with Troy leaving, if they are going to bring back Rachel. It'd be nice to see Abed normalize a bit with a nice girl. Brie Larson is already confirmed back for at least one episode. For as much a Harmon has crapped on Season 4 you have to appreciate that he isn't leaving every plot thread in the dust.
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Oz posted:I wonder, with Troy leaving, if they are going to bring back Rachel. It'd be nice to see Abed normalize a bit with a nice girl. Or Special Agent Robin Vohlers 
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Qu Appelle posted:All I want is for Danny Pudi to do more physical comedy. Because him crawling on a desk? That was glorious. That is my favorite episode. Pierce and Abed killed it. It's the only episode my husband quotes, too.
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Jan 4, 2014 07:40
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I thought Repiloting was fantastic, what a good episode! One of my favourites in the whole run - smart, dark and considering. I especially liked how it tacitly questions how "good" Greendale actually is, rather than just going the straight "evil lawyer wants to close down the orphanage" angle. The second one was quite fun too, but felt a bit more standard.
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I was away most of last year so I never got to watch Season 4, but I never bothered catching up because of all the bad rap. Going straight from Season 3 to the re-pilot was the best feeling ever.
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I'm watching the second new episode, and I'm laughing my rear end off during the riot scene at the absurdity of some of the students' weapons. Some of them have chairs, and binders, and the like, but Neil literally has a board with a bunch of nails on it. Also, I want to read what's on every single one of those note cards in Abed's apartment.
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Got to check these new episodes out tonight and was very, very pleased with them. Comparing these to the the vast majority of season 4, it's like night and day. It's amazing how "present" Dan Harmon is in the new stuff. I was honestly expecting the worst, but that was a trumphant return to form. It's nice to be looking forward to this show again.  So many great, classic Community jokes; that last scene of the second episode in Hickey's office loving killed me.
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I was really happy with these episodes - I wouldn't describe the show as 'back' yet (although given when critics are saying about episode 4 that shouldn't take long), but it's already miles above the vast majority of season 4. Banks is an excellent addition to the cast, and I was so happy to see Chase come back for one more bit. I do wish the show would lighten up a little (both thematically and visually oh ho ho ho); as much as I get why they had to make everything dark as hell to justify the return, season 3 was meant to be the darkest year for these characters and now they're all worse again 
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So after watching both episodes I think that tonally and emotionally Dan Harmon made one mistake - graduating everyone off-screen and time jumping. It just isn't needed at all except for the joke about re-piloting. Jeff graduated early which means he basically had a full semester and the summer to fall into despair and have to return to Greendale in time for the other characters final year. It would've felt a lot more fluid and a lot more in keeping, I think, with the lighter tone the show is trying to find. Aside from that it's pretty good, though in my head the final episode is still the end of Season Three for now.
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I thought we only time-jumped nine months or so. All the characters were halfway through their final year at the end of season 4, right?
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Bown posted:I thought we only time-jumped nine months or so. All the characters were halfway through their final year at the end of season 4, right? Were they? For some reason I seem to remember them having another, final year, after Jeff would've graduated. Either way there were better ways of bringing everyone back other than making them complete failures outside of the school, which feels a little mean and, for a viewer, makes the past four seasons seem kind of pointless.
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The gas leak year consisted of Jeff and Pierce graduating, which we sort of saw, and then another semester in which everyone else graduated (or left, I don't think Britta finished a degree). I really didn't expect them to reference season 4 but that gas leak gag was a pleasant surprise. I really hope Andre comes back, both so Malcom-Jamal Warner can come back and because I don't see another happy ending for Shirley without her family.
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PriorMarcus posted:Were they? For some reason I seem to remember them having another, final year, after Jeff would've graduated. It's for the whole "repilot" thing. They wanted to be able to come up with something resembling a watchable fresh start for a new viewer while at the same time leaving behind the weird poo poo that Season 4 had done with as little acknowledgment as possible. They way they did it with a time jump and a bunch of implication wasn't great, but was still better than wasting a bunch of time trying to tie up loose ends from S4, especially considering how the bitterness of Dan Harmon trying to do that would have come through in the writing and just caused more drama and speculation. Honestly I thought the first episode already suffered enough from trying to give everything a new context and also explain what happened between then and now. Better to pollute a little bit of one episode with that and have a strange opening rather than potentially gently caress up the whole season trying to figure out some sort of more elegant transition. speng31b fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jan 4, 2014 |
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I still can't get over how good the Pierce hologram was (callback to Intermediate Documentary Filmmaking) when I didn't expect anything but a brief mention of him. It's still sad that he's not going to be around, I really wish they could have gotten him as a guest for a couple of episodes. Depending on the final status of his character, I'd really like to see this happen in the sixth season NBC knows it needs to give us to cut down riots by 40%. Also, I regret not simply posting "...do we all have to say something?" after the episodes. I really Britta'd that.
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Mexcillent posted:I did think that first episode was weirdly lit but I think it was on purpose? Look, if people really need to spend time worrying about this, here's an in-story solution: Greendale hasn't been doing terribly well financially for a while, and now they're facing huge potential lawsuits. They're not running some of the lights in order to save a few dollars. Now we can comfortably never talk about the lighting again. Loved both, glad to see Community back to form. Jonathan Banks is a wonderful addition, and, as someone further upthread already mentioned, I'm going to choose to believe that this is indeed Mike after entering witness protection. (Fate deliberately changed to avoid making Breaking Bad spoiler.)
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For the mike thing to work out, community would have to be a prequel. Mike, frustrated teacher turns to crime to pay his burial bills
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:For the mike thing to work out, community would have to be a prequel. Mike, frustrated teacher turns to crime to pay his burial bills All he has to do is drop a line in the finale that he's "heading to New Mexico to help out some lawyer" - (especially if they get Banks for Better Call Saul) and suddenly Community will fit into the Westphall Universe as well.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:All he has to do is drop a line in the finale that he's "heading to New Mexico to help out some lawyer" - (especially if they get Banks for Better Call Saul) and suddenly Community will fit into the Westphall Universe as well.
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LividLiquid posted:They're already in Tommy's snowglobe, I thought. Wasn't the examiner from the Law and Order episode an actual examiner from Law and Order? Goodness, I'm no expert, but by namechecking Dick Wolf, I figured they'd need another door in.
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In the coming weeks it will be crazy to say anything nice about season 4 so I'm going to get it off my chest now: the discovery of a potential girlfriend for Abed & the Christmas episode where the History teacher is tied in a chair and tries to get the group to turn on each other were great.
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I completely forgot that the long list of guest stars is being packed into thirteen episodes. It almost makes me nervous, that's the kind of thing an NBC show does in its final season.
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Community season 4 was actually worse than I remembered upon rewatch, which was sad the puppet episode (which I know was divisive to begin with but I was on the side that initially liked it) was so lovely second time around and even the Freaky Friday episode wasn't as strong as I remembered. I think Herstory of Dance is the only episode from the season I would put even close to the others.
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PriorMarcus posted:Either way there were better ways of bringing everyone back other than making them complete failures outside of the school, which feels a little mean and, for a viewer, makes the past four seasons seem kind of pointless. Don't forget that they came to the school as gently caress ups. The pre credits sequence of very first episode is a statement about how community college is "loser college" for remedial teens, divorcees, and old people. But that's the entire point of the show: a group of gently caress ups can go to a lovely school, and still come away amazing experiences and lifetime friendships. The last four seasons aren't pointless because the value of Greendale is not in it actually being a good school, but in it being a place where gently caress ups can go to find a, well, community. The dean's bad at deaning, the classes are a joke, the teachers are crazy or stuck trying to escape, and yet in the words of Luis Guzman, it's a special place where people's lives are changed. Just not in some superficial way where Abed becomes a world-famous movie director or something. Because him achieving what he wants (or what he thinks he wants) doesn't make him a better person, and given how terrible Greendale is academically and reputationally, would actually not be very believable.
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emoticon posted:Don't forget that they came to the school as gently caress ups. The pre credits sequence of very first episode is a statement about how community college is "loser college" for remedial teens, divorcees, and old people. Winger'd the poo poo out of this.
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Having bingewatched the whole show back to back last season, I really couldn't tell much difference between season 3 and 4. Season 5 has gotten some laughs out of me so far.
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Error 404 posted:Having bingewatched the whole show back to back last season, I really couldn't tell much difference between season 3 and 4. Season 5 has gotten some laughs out of me so far. Yeah the tone is very similar. I didn't like Season 3 much either.
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Sarcastro posted:Look, if people really need to spend time worrying about this, here's an in-story solution: Greendale hasn't been doing terribly well financially for a while, and now they're facing huge potential lawsuits. They're not running some of the lights in order to save a few dollars. Now we can comfortably never talk about the lights again. Halloweeeeeen weeeek! All Saint's Daaaayyyyy month.
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superjew posted:I completely forgot that the long list of guest stars is being packed into thirteen episodes. It almost makes me nervous, that's the kind of thing an NBC show does in its final season. Or 30 Rock in almost any given season. On the subject season 4 rewatches, I just started rewatching it this last month, and it honestly didn't bother me as much as it did originally. But I really think the fact that I didn't do a rewatch until season 5 and Dan Harmon was announced played a part in that. It really helped not to just have to come to terms with that was it for Community.
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Tuxedo Jack posted:Goodness, I'm no expert, but by namechecking Dick Wolf, I figured they'd need another door in. She is the examiner, but there's some crossover with the real world in the Westphall universe. And does someone have a screengrab of Troy's signature from where they all signed the form to sue Greendale? I could have sworn it looked like an X, but it could have just been the way he signs it.
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seaborgium posted:And does someone have a screengrab of Troy's signature from where they all signed the form to sue Greendale? I could have sworn it looked like an X, but it could have just been the way he signs it.  The top one does kind of look like an x, but it's hard to see.
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seaborgium posted:She is the examiner, but there's some crossover with the real world in the Westphall universe. According to Yvette Nicole Brown, everyone signed their names except for Donald Glover, who just scribbled something.
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The Dark One posted:She will clutch on to him like she did a bottle of booze in the bad old days.
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