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Error 404 posted:Having bingewatched the whole show back to back last season, I really couldn't tell much difference between season 3 and 4. Season 5 has gotten some laughs out of me so far. Season 3 definitely had deeper valleys compared to seasons 1 and 2, but Remedial Chaos Theory alone elevates season 3 above season 4.
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30 Rock also got a 13-episode run for its final season, and went out on a high note after a couple shaky seasons. I'd be okay if this was Community's last season: it gives them a chance to wrap things up, end strong, and not have to pad things out for a longer season. If NBC would have done this (namely, a short season) with Parks and Rec I think Season 5 would have been stronger, since they wouldn't have had to keep adding episodes as the order changed.
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FactsAreUseless posted:30 Rock also got a 13-episode run for its final season, and went out on a high note after a couple shaky seasons. I'd be okay if this was Community's last season: it gives them a chance to wrap things up, end strong, and not have to pad things out for a longer season. If NBC would have done this (namely, a short season) with Parks and Rec I think Season 5 would have been stronger, since they wouldn't have had to keep adding episodes as the order changed. Going off of 30 Rock, I only hope that Community knows it's doing its last season. That's what made 30 Rock's so good. They knew exactly how much time they had to wrap things up perfectly. I just don't want what turns out to be a series finale that's really just a season finale written with the mindset of "Welp. Maybe we'll get another season, maybe we won't. So we better give some closure, but leave things just open enough to keep going if we get to."
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Jan 5, 2014 06:50
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El Tortuga posted:Going off of 30 Rock, I only hope that Community knows it's doing its last season. To be fair, I think that by the time Harmon and co. had finished the last episodes, they were still under the impression they might very well be on their last/only season every year so far.
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Punch Card posted:To be fair, I think that by the time Harmon and co. had finished the last episodes, they were still under the impression they might very well be on their last/only season every year so far. That's true, but there's a difference between getting an announced final season, and to wrap up your show because you just have to assume that's it.
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El Tortuga posted:Going off of 30 Rock, I only hope that Community knows it's doing its last season. That's what made 30 Rock's so good. They knew exactly how much time they had to wrap things up perfectly. I just don't want what turns out to be a series finale that's really just a season finale written with the mindset of "Welp. Maybe we'll get another season, maybe we won't. So we better give some closure, but leave things just open enough to keep going if we get to." I think Dan Harmon already said the season 5 finale won't be a "definitive" series finale. I'm sure everyone involved knows that another season is extremely unlikely to happen, but it seems like they don't want to close the door on it completely. But I agree that it'd be way better if they actually knew it when they had to wrap things up once and for all. Of course the fans are never going to get over it unless there's six seasons and a movie. Not that Sony or NBC will give a poo poo about that. But if nothing else there could always be a movie to finish it all.
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Just rewatched the episodes (now they're all nice and HD on the official NBC website - gotta love that) and thought they were even better. There's a few tonally jarring, overly-wacky bits (the Scrubs voiceover, the Dean's French song, the existence of that kind of hologram technology) but for the most part it is pretty old style and character-centric. Plus, in a higher quality and on a TV screen, the dark lighting was not an issue at all in the second episode, it did look more like season 1 and 2. The show has become a weird monument to Dan Harmon's circles with the chart in the study room, Jeff's circle of truth, Abed's Nick Cage wheel. I also like that in introducing a 'new' character they haven't made the mistake of going "let's make the first episode ALL about the new character so our audience know them better!" (Which makes the audience HATE the new character because they came here to see the original people: Coupling, Just Shoot Me, etc.) And the dialogue is back to being so fast paced and joke-after-joke that there are quality little lines you miss first time through. Troy: Will I get to be a surprise witness? Wait, don't tell me.
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Jan 5, 2014 17:53
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VagueRant posted:
"How could he leave Scrubs after all Scrubs did for him?!?"
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Jan 5, 2014 19:37
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The Scrubs voice-over is from Abed's laptop, isn't it? It's not just random.
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Jan 5, 2014 20:08
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Yeah, it's diegetic but it's still jarring. I didn't really find it funny, just kind of hack to end the episode on a recycled JD voiceover.
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Jan 5, 2014 20:10
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VagueRant posted:Yeah, it's diegetic but it's still jarring. I didn't really find it funny, just kind of hack to end the episode on a recycled JD voiceover. It was newly recorded by Zach Braff just for the episode.
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Jan 5, 2014 20:11
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If you didn't like that Scrubs voiceover from an obviously older, more disillusioned Zach Braff, there's no hope for you.
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Yeah it's pretty funny sorry.
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Two fantastic episodes, though I do think it would still be funny if there was a season 6, it gets actual good ratings, and Harmon says "Nope, no season 7, you wanted six seasons and a movie and that's it!"
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Jan 5, 2014 21:08
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precision posted:Two fantastic episodes, though I do think it would still be funny if there was a season 6, it gets actual good ratings, and Harmon says "Nope, no season 7, you wanted six seasons and a movie and that's it!" Considering there was a time we weren't even sure there'd be a season 3, I'd still take it and say thank you.
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precision posted:Two fantastic episodes, though I do think it would still be funny if there was a season 6, it gets actual good ratings, and Harmon says "Nope, no season 7, you wanted six seasons and a movie and that's it!" I'd be fine with this because it would mean we get a movie. By the way, I have a strong feeling that the movie will end up being a production of Cool Abed Films if we don't get an actual movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uo0FUyiVYR8 It's a good thing the full film didn't make it into the episode because I would have also been crying at the end.
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Jan 5, 2014 22:25
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The second episode of Community had its rating adjusted up from a 1.2 to a 1.3. The bigger the mess NBC becomes, the more likely this show that should have ended years ago by most ratings standards keeps going.
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Jan 5, 2014 23:26
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TealShark posted:The second episode of Community had its rating adjusted up from a 1.2 to a 1.3. Yeah, but the problem is that it might bring NBC to change their Thursdays. If that happens it seems likely that Community will be the first to go, even if they don't stop airing comedies entirely.
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Jan 5, 2014 23:38
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How many views did the episodes get on Hulu? A lot, I bet. A lot.
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I could see a 13-episode final pickup for Community and P&R. Give them a chance to tie up both shows, and you've got an hour filled in the Fall/Spring.
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Pinwiz11 posted:I could see a 13-episode final pickup for Community and P&R. Give them a chance to tie up both shows, and you've got an hour filled in the Fall/Spring. Makes way too much sense for NBC's handling of comedy, but yes, do this please.
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Jan 6, 2014 00:55
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Dead air would get better ratings than P&R this season.
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Jan 6, 2014 01:57
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Aphrodite posted:Dead air would get better ratings than P&R this season. If NBC cancels anymore sitcoms, we may be able to put this to the test.
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ultramiraculous posted:"How could he leave Scrubs after all Scrubs did for him?!?" I can't help but feel this was a lovely line to make Donglover say.
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Jan 6, 2014 02:27
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Well to be fair, nobody would buy a single Childish Gambino album if it weren't for Community.
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Jan 6, 2014 02:28
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If it makes you feel better, he tweeted that it was a great line.
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If it makes you feel better he's an actor and it's his job.
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I rewatched the two episodes on my calibrated plasma, and they looked a bit better than when I watched them on my bedroom set, so everyone who got in a massive tizzy about me commenting on the lighting can relax now. It's still not great, but it wasn't *quite* the dismal attempt I originally presumed.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I can't help but feel this was a lovely line to make Donglover say. According to Yvette Nicole Brown, Donald laughed harder than anyone else at that line during the table read. Also, you're really oversensitive if you thought there was any malice in that joke whatsoever.
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1st AD posted:Well to be fair, nobody would buy a single Childish Gambino album if it weren't for Community. Unsurprisingly, barely anyone did anyways.
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big mean giraffe posted:Unsurprisingly, barely anyone did anyways. I read his new one sold 150k so far
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Bown posted:I read his new one sold 150k so far Exactly.
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Honestly, the Pierce hologram and that Troy line were done very well and a great way to sort of hang a lampshade on their departures. That was probably the hardest job Repilot had to do and it was done very well.
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MrAristocrates posted:According to Yvette Nicole Brown, Donald laughed harder than anyone else at that line during the table read. I mean Donglover is a professional. He's been a writer for years and the Scrubs joke almost seems like something he'd come up with, based on his personality.
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Jan 6, 2014 02:57
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Just be glad it wasn't about Shelly Long
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:I can't help but feel this was a lovely line to make Donglover say. I actually figured it was more a reference to Chevy Chase.
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Ghostpilot posted:I actually figured it was more a reference to Chevy Chase. Nah, Glover is leaving part way through this season after x episodes.
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superjew posted:Honestly, the Pierce hologram and that Troy line were done very well and a great way to sort of hang a lampshade on their departures. That was probably the hardest job Repilot had to do and it was done very well. I was glad Troy saying, "Doesn't it feel weird not to have... Magnitude here?" Be the only Pierce reference of the hour.
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I didn't like that line too much. Like, Chevy aside, does no one in the study group have any affection for Pierce after three years?PriorMarcus posted:It was newly recorded by Zach Braff just for the episode.
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It's taken directly from the first episode of Season 9 of Scrubs. The music and timing are different, but the lines and readings are exactly the same.
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