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Squidster posted:As for the swords being made of Titan gunk, Hanji said Annie's shell was like nothing she'd ever seen, and I assume she would draw a parallel to their blades composition if there was one.
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Jackard posted:One of the infodumps described blade production and the black box within the 3DMG to be a high guarded secret Honestly I would not be surprised if there were titans trapped in the center castle that create stuff like that. The steam for the gear, the metal for the blades, etc.
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Jackard posted:One of the infodumps described blade production and the black box within the 3DMG to be a high guarded secret Wait, there's a black box inside the 3DMG? This comes as a surprise to me! Where did they mention that?
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It is a good question though: if the walls are made of hardened crystallized Titans, how could Reiner break it just by ramming into it? I know Reiner has his own kind of armor, but it's not the same type and I doubt it would be harder than what Annie used. Are the Titans in the walls dying?
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I thought it was because they attacked the parts of the walls with gates in them, which probably wouldn't have a Titan inside them.
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I thought it was because they attacked the parts of the walls with gates in them, which probably wouldn't have a Titan inside them. Well Annie climbed a portion with one inside and it chipped away cleanly.
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DrSunshine posted:Wait, there's a black box inside the 3DMG? This comes as a surprise to me! Where did they mention that? I don't remember where it mentions this in the manga, but it does at some point. Same with factory cities.
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Jackard posted:http://shingekinokyojin.wikia.com/wiki/Three_Dimensional_Maneuver_Gear#Mechanics I had figured that this was handwaving away the impossible science of the 3dmg and the blades. To be fair, I had also thought the walls were just a necessary handwave, so maybe...
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EvilTaytoMan posted:I thought it was because they attacked the parts of the walls with gates in them, which probably wouldn't have a Titan inside them. Yes, Bert and Reiner broke through the gates, not the walls themselves. I think the only times we've seen something deal serious damage to the wall itself was Annie climbing a wall, and Monkey Titan climbing a wall and tearing off chunks of it.
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Schubalts posted:Yes, Bert and Reiner broke through the gates, not the walls themselves. I think the only times we've seen something deal serious damage to the wall itself was Annie climbing a wall, and Monkey Titan climbing a wall and tearing off chunks of it. Not to mention that the comic clearly shows Annie hardening her fingertips before digging them into the wall, so it might be one of those "only hardened titan whatever can cut itself" things. What I find amusing is how they expect to patch up the holes that Annie made without murdering a whole bunch of laborers who have to work face to face with a dormant colossal titan.
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The stuff Annie ripped out wasn't titan crystal anyway, it was regular masonry added to disguise the fact that the wall is made of titans/to keep the wall titans away from sunlight. It's essentially a decorative facade.
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Perfect Potato posted:Crunchyroll: "And everyone's been miserable today because of it." I just checked the raw. At this point in time, I would rely only on Crunchyroll for your speculating needs, because CR is correct and it looks like the poo poo translations just look up individual words and string them together in something that resembles a sentence.
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The only good non-CR translation is mangastream, who are usually a week or more behind the incoherent speed scans.
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Love is in the air in the latest Spoof on Titan. https://www.mangabox.me/reader/SpoofonTitan/
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So, I just realized a thing. Why don't they create a moat outside of the walls? That would pretty much be a perfect defense against Titans. Water isn't really necessary; normal titans have no way to climb a smooth wall. The biggest issue would probably be digging the moat without getting eaten, but at the very least they could make one around the inner walls.
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Ytlaya posted:So, I just realized a thing. They dug ditches in front of the gates (the covers come off during the Trost attack), but eventually they just filled up with titans and they started climbing out.
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Ytlaya posted:So, I just realized a thing. The walls are really, really massive. I forget where I'm pulling this from, but I think the area inside the outer wall was compared to a country like France. Even the inner wall is still probably a pretty massive area to try and dig a singular moat around, water or no.
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Ytlaya posted:So, I just realized a thing. The radius of Wall Maria is about 480 km. The circumference of the entire wall is about 3000 km. Even Wall Rose has a circumference of about 2200 km. Have fun digging thousands of kilometers of trenches with late medieval technology. A big flaming stink fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Jan 15, 2014 |
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So if you dug a ditch around, say, the gate cities where more titans gather around the outside, it still wouldn't be very effective. It would fill up with near-unkillable titans before long (even if you buried them or dropped flaming oil on them) and just make the problem worse. It's better to just rely on the huge walls (whose origins are the second-biggest mystery of the series) so you can let the brainless titans grope at them for a while and move on. Still, it wouldn't hurt to have all sorts of tripwires and pitfalls right inside the gates or other weak areas just in case of a breach.
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Yea it's the zombie problem, you eventually hit a point where the endless horde of unthinking monsters driven by hunger just pile up in the pit. It's not like once their in the moat the titans are gonna go 'gently caress me, a hole in the ground? Didn't sign up for this!' Unless you have a dude dumping napalm on them every hour or something it's not gonna work. Also yea the walls are huge, didn't the first issue have some line about a dude being excited to go from, like, the western wall to the eastern one, because he's never been there before? Each one is basically a proper nation, not just some city with walls.
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Ytlaya posted:So, I just realized a thing. I'm not really sure what a moat would help with? The walls are doing just fine deterring titans. And it wouldn't stop intelligent titans or anything.
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coathat posted:Love is in the air in the latest Spoof on Titan. https://www.mangabox.me/reader/SpoofonTitan/ These usually make me smile but that last page made me actually laugh out loud. Much like the source this gets much better with time.
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TK-31 posted:These usually make me smile but that last page made me actually laugh out loud. Much like the source this gets much better with time. Yeah the earlier ones were great, but the last panels with Bertolt's sweaty face and Mikasa is just pure gold.
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Ytlaya posted:So, I just realized a thing. Logistical problems aside, it's because the people who make up the "royal government" don't actually want humanity to make any real progress defeating the Titans. 
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visceril posted:Oh my initial impression was that the land inside the walls was like a big bowl with ordinary soil filled in. Now I think it's more likely that the 'bedrock' the miner encountered was one of the titan's hardened feet. (I think between the anime-only thing and the fact that titan people in general don't comport with standard understanding of conservation of mass and energy this speculation is both frivolous and unlikely to yield useful results)
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TK-31 posted:The unity Attack on Titan webgame and the 3DS official one have some fierce competition now. Is there any way they'd ever for one day be allowed to be on Steam? I mean, it's literally the thing but with one letter changed.
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Tatum Girlparts posted:Is there any way they'd ever for one day be allowed to be on Steam? I mean, it's literally the thing but with one letter changed. Two letters 
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If someone really wanted to make a low effort AoT game, they'd just make a tower defence one.
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Sakurazuka posted:If someone really wanted to make a low effort AoT game, they'd just make a tower defence one. I unironically want this now, except (at least early on) the towers can't actually kill the Titans they just slow them down until you can send the Scouts after them. Or Eren, or whatever is coming next in the story. D1Sergo fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Jan 17, 2014 |
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D1Sergo posted:I unironically want this now, except (at least early on) the towers can't actually kill the Titans they just slow them down until you can send the Scouts after them. Or Eren, or whatever is coming next in the story. A tower defense game would actually work pretty well, I think. Especially if they did something kinda like Orcs Must Die and have third person action segments in addition to trap placing.
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Sakurazuka posted:If someone really wanted to make a low effort AoT game, they'd just make a tower defence one. What, like Castle Utgard?
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Genocyber posted:A tower defense game would actually work pretty well, I think. Especially if they did something kinda like Orcs Must Die and have third person action segments in addition to trap placing. Yea I'd play the gently caress out of Titans Must Die.
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silloh posted:What's the creature using the 3dmg? The.....vendor, I think it was, from Plants vs Zombies.
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Vincent Valentine posted:The.....vendor, I think it was, from Plants vs Zombies. Crazy Dave!
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I just finished watching the first season, I can't help but wonder how come none of the bigger dudes don't use heavier blades. It's seems they would have different fighter classes, like light and high agility or heavy with low agility and heavy striking power.
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You can't have low agility against titans, the reason they're such a threat is because they're so fast and part of being able to beat them is needing the agility to do that since you have to slice a specific part of their body. I mean the best way to be a heavy guy and fight a titan would be to literally chop their limbs off to the point they are at level with you and unless they have discovered how to become Sundowner, I don't think that's happening any time soon for everyone.
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