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The important thing here is that they said "taking the piss" and now everyone in here knows what it means. You learnt a cool idiom today, Americans. YOU'RE WELCOME.
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How else would they translate very thick regional slang that is a common ingredient in Japanese humour? That's actual taking of the mickey right there. (The heavy Hokkaido accent from that one speaker of the Airport batsu was an untranslatable accent though, because it's next to a separate language, more so than Gullah when compared to English)
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Jan 14, 2014 14:53
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Arbite posted:The new Taiga Drama's off to a strong start. Pretty much every year I think, "This is finally going to be the year that I watch the whole taiga drama!" but it never happens. I usually get bored with the ones that have lots of military stuff faster, though. I think I stuck with Atsuhime the longest.
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Aurain posted:Way I see it, if some weird rear end Japanese TV show teaches you things about other cultures as well as Japanese culture, even if it's as insignificant as figuring out what taking the piss means, it's pretty cool. There's plenty of times I see things American translations too and wonder what the hell you're going on about. Like when you call things a patsy, we generally don't use that word at all. That's my point, though, people just warped this into some dumb thing where I'm American thus everything must be the American way and Americans don't want to learn about anybody but themselves. I knew what "taking the piss" meant from the start because I spent a good chunk of my 20s working alongside someone from London who over time taught me tons of slang and whatnot but I obviously can't be counted for everyone. It's just a bad habit for translation, especially when you consider the context of a world-wide viewing audience. As for making the translations more "warm" or whatever I find that it's only of value now as an arguing point and I've never seen past translations here criticized or praised for using very plain English. People suddenly getting up in arms(see, they're freaking everywhere) over this strikes me as odd considering how people usually nail them for Engrish or bad typesetting. I don't think using idioms is great when you consider the audience you're translating for in this case, sorry. It doesn't ruin the translation at all, it was just a passing critique. Crotch Bat fucked around with this message at 15:35 on Jan 14, 2014 |
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Jan 14, 2014 15:32
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I wasn't trying to imply that you just want things to be Americanised because you're American, so if you took that from it, apologies.
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Jan 14, 2014 15:44
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Good god Tanaka got owned really hard there. You can't translate that face.
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I think he lost it when he figured out what was coming.
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Jan 14, 2014 18:48
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Plus if you saw the subbed "Letters to Hamada" episode you'd know he can bring out the tears. Great switch from the staff, though, to bring the tone down out of nowhere.
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Crotch Bat posted:The target language is English which, shocker to you anyway since you clearly can't interpret what that map means, is often a second or third language to many people which means, shocker again, that they often do not know idioms or slang specific to one of the two major branches of English. That's why you keep it basic and don't make it more complex than it needs to be for the sake of making someone say "hey, I recognize that phrase, this translation makes me feel warm and comfy and reminds me of home".
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Jan 14, 2014 19:15
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I wonder if the pace isn't too fast. Maybe they front loaded a lot of the content - Endo's family came out of nowhere, which was brilliant, but you can't pull them out more than once. Chono is certainly going to come back but last time he made two appearances it was Tanaka who caught the first slap. Maybe they have a really big Claudia Umemiya show planned later on.
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Jan 14, 2014 19:31
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I'm not sure but I sorta hope theres something a bit less traditional a bit later. I mean I know that theres a tag section later on which will take up some time but still, I sorta see them getting some of the major things out of the way as an excuse to change things up, however slightly.
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I forgot about the tag teaser. So tag game, maybe a long incompetent skit, Itoh's gotta show up at some point, same with Maeda Bibari, stupid human tricks from the Headtowel group, midnight gossip crew, and the scary bits at the end. Maybe it's a good thing they edited out some of the drawer gags this year?
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Popular Thug Drink posted:I forgot about the tag teaser. So tag game, maybe a long incompetent skit, Itoh's gotta show up at some point, same with Maeda Bibari, stupid human tricks from the Headtowel group, midnight gossip crew, and the scary bits at the end. Maybe it's a good thing they edited out some of the drawer gags this year? They didn't, the team simply missed subbing it. They've updated part 2 with the missing drawer subs. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/k3q4Xs75T2CXoT5bydm
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Popular Thug Drink posted:I forgot about the tag teaser. So tag game, maybe a long incompetent skit, Itoh's gotta show up at some point, same with Maeda Bibari, stupid human tricks from the Headtowel group, midnight gossip crew, and the scary bits at the end. Maybe it's a good thing they edited out some of the drawer gags this year? I wish they'd drop some of these things and try out more new stuff. Stuff like the Chono slap was super funny to me the first one or two times but when you see it like 5 years in a row it kinda loses it's charm. I still enjoy the batsu games a lot but they've probably gotten a little too predictable.
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I wish they'd go back to not having all five of them getting batsued. I really enjoyed ones like High School and Yugawara where the different mix of people gave it a different dynamic each year.
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No way. You're basically saying that you want one or more members to not appear in 80% of the footage. That's just crazy talk. The interaction between the guys provides at least as many laughs as the traps they set up.
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Nipponophile posted:No way. You're basically saying that you want one or more members to not appear in 80% of the footage. That's just crazy talk. The interaction between the guys provides at least as many laughs as the traps they set up. The guy in charge was always cut to in the control room a bunch, plus they'd make appearances.
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Nipponophile posted:No way. You're basically saying that you want one or more members to not appear in 80% of the footage. That's just crazy talk. The interaction between the guys provides at least as many laughs as the traps they set up. I guess you've never seen the hilarious earlier ones then. Having all five being punished was great at first, but it's become stale, as evidenced by someone a couple of posts up recalling, no doubt from memory, every single beat of the last five specials. I love these to death and I'll keep watching them, but I wish they'd either change it up or not feel compelled to do one every year. Plus, this way they could go back to doing eliminations to see who's in the batsu game and we can have more awesomeness like Electric Socket Russian Roulette.
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I'm sorry, but if you think that Downtown is funnier when physically separated, then you are objectively wrong.
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It's like you've never seen No Laughing Yugawara or Haunted Hotel! Scandalous.
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5 men batsu are great. Setting Gaki against each other for batsu games was great. The answer here is clearly that there should be a half year Batsu where they play against each other.
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toomanyninjas posted:It's like you've never seen No Laughing Yugawara or Haunted Hotel! Scandalous. Those are unique because they're doing different things, not because they have fewer people involved. If the problem is that recent games have fallen into a rut of doing the same things every year, then the answer is to do different things, not to remove people from the equation.
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Removing people/changing them from allies to antagonists is, in fact, a different thing compared to the past few years. I guess we're watching two different things because I watch the older ones with the group split up and they're just as/more funny than what's on today. Maybe I'm just burnt out.
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toomanyninjas posted:Removing people/changing them from allies to antagonists is, in fact, a different thing compared to the past few years. We're both burnt out if that's the case. Most recent batsu I properly loved was the last that had the crew split, Police batsu. There's been a bunch of unaired footage shown for this already, more looking forward to that being translated than the remaining 3-4 hours of the batsugame itself.
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MrLonghair posted:We're both burnt out if that's the case. Most recent batsu I properly loved was the last that had the crew split, Police batsu. You didn't like Hospital? Hospital is not the best batsu, it's easily the best batsu to me. I loved Police and Onsen Yugawara but Hospital was the best and was essentially the basis for the rest of the batsu to follow and I honestly think it was such a success to them that they decided against splitting up for the games anymore. Newspaper was also tremendous and my 2nd favorite "full" batsu game, but I could watch Hospital over and over and never sicken of it.
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Yeah Hospital and Yugawara are the ones I laughed at the most. (But they're also the first ones I watched if that matters)
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I think so far, this might be my favourite Batsu of all of them, part three almost killed me. The singing challenge didn't top Matsumoto losing his poo poo at deep fry-fried though.
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I used to watch Ninja Warrior back when it was on G4 but that was before I got into Japanese variety, so now I get to go back through them and play "spot the talent". How many comedians do you guys recognize from this episode? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J72Vyh4r34k Bonus: "university wrestling coach" Genki Sudo
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Nipponophile posted:I used to watch Ninja Warrior back when it was on G4 but that was before I got into Japanese variety, so now I get to go back through them and play "spot the talent". How many comedians do you guys recognize from this episode? Haha! Wow did the comedians decide to do this as a sorta "Why not"? It's just crazy seeing all the comedians at one time. Also totally don't get Kojima's style of comedy. It's mostly dancing and not caring? Zain fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jan 15, 2014 |
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toomanyninjas posted:I wish they'd go back to not having all five of them getting batsued. I really enjoyed ones like High School and Yugawara where the different mix of people gave it a different dynamic each year. This makes too much money. If it's formulaic it's because they found a formula that works really well and makes mad cash. The whole Gaki crew works best as an ensemble I think and now that they're older and successful they're less likely to do one off stupid batsus over a bet. They don't need to draw in ratings anymore, they just need to keep the audience they've built with the big flashy annual batsu. boner confessor fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jan 15, 2014 |
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Zain posted:Also totally don't get Kojima's style of comedy. It's mostly dancing and not caring? Consider him a variety of Happy Boy, the shtick being "not caring" outside of self-deprecation situational bits.
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Fresh Like Zafo posted:And Part 3 is here:
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Crotch Bat posted:You didn't like Hospital? Hospital is not the best batsu, it's easily the best batsu to me. I loved Police and Onsen Yugawara but Hospital was the best and was essentially the basis for the rest of the batsu to follow and I honestly think it was such a success to them that they decided against splitting up for the games anymore. Hospital was also the first "full" batsu, so everything was a little fresher then. Plus, Endo fell into that awesome hole.
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KittenofDoom posted:Poor Tanaka! It was touching to see Hamada tearing up at his daughters' letters, but Tanaka bawling his eyes out over his son's almost made me lose it, too! I dunno, using a man's children to deliver a Thai kick? That doesn't sit right with me.  Still funny, though. 
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Cialis Railman posted:I dunno, using a man's children to deliver a Thai kick? That doesn't sit right with me. That point I was pretty much like Tanaka. Filled with so many emotions.
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I couldn't wait for a full translation, so I just caught up. That was by far the best Tanaka Thai Kick DVD. Perfect set up, and Tanaka bawling his eyes out while sitting in fear of the kick was just amazing.
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Part 4 is up http://www.teamgaki.com/batsu-2014-no-laughing-defense-force-part-4/ Their speed is really impressive, last year we didn't get part 4 of teacher batsu until the end of February.
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Nipponophile posted:I used to watch Ninja Warrior back when it was on G4 but that was before I got into Japanese variety, so now I get to go back through them and play "spot the talent". How many comedians do you guys recognize from this episode? I remember watching the "Women of" version and seeing both Cutey Honey and Dogu-chan in one episode. Dogu-chan was even in costume. I don't think either got very far.
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I have to say, of all the things I ever thought I'd see in my life, Matsuko Deluxe in blackface as Emmanuel Lewis singing a J-pop song was not one of them.
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