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INH5 posted:Personally, I think Leia is even worse. Her adoptive parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, childhood friends, teachers, former roommates, pizza delivery man, etc. etc. etc. all get blown to smithereens and how does she react? She's sad about it for one scene, then a day later she's comforting some guy she's known for about an hour over the death of some hobo she's never met. I mean, sure her entire civilization is now a thinly scattered debris cloud but clearly Luke is the one who is really hurting here. That's cuz Leia is tough as hell. No time to waste tears on the dead, there's an Empire to defeat!
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The homestead scene is an homage to The Searchers (1956). John Wayne's character, Ethan Edwards, comes back to his brother's family's home and discovers that his brother, sister-in-law (with whom he was in love), and nephew were killed and his nieces captured by Comanche Indians. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30N-weocZT4 Soon after, he finds out that the elder niece was raped and murdered, so he teams up with his brother's adopted son Martin (who is himself part Comanche) and spends seven years searching for the younger niece. It makes sense for Ethan Edwards to keep a lid on his emotions because he's a badass Civil War veteran played by the Duke. The audience knows Ethan's going to waste little time mourning and pour all his grief into action - because that's what badass characters do - and that's exactly what he does. Put Luke in that situation and you'd expect him to act a lot more like Martin (whose immediate reaction to the deaths is to flip his poo poo), because he is a callow youth. I guess I would put the flaws in Luke's characterization down to a clumsy homage. We need to make a list of movies that influenced Star Wars. One you might not know about is the 1938 Soviet film Alexander Nevsky, whose portrayal of the Battle of the Ice inspired the Battle of Hoth.
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Jan 18, 2014 21:19
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His whole story arc revolves around searching for the father he never knew. That's why he cares more for Ben than his aunt and uncle. He lost another connection to his father.
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Jan 18, 2014 21:57
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Luke not showing much emotion on finding his aunt and uncle dead was a decision made by Lucas. Mark Hamill thought Luke should fall to his knees in agony at the sight, but Lucas wanted a neutral performance so the audience would project their feelings on to Luke. I actually think the scene works really well - Yeah, Luke looks numb, but that's the shock of the situation. And it's not like he has much time to wallow, either - he's on the run now. That's all hitting him at once, and so a stare of disbelief seems about right.
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Jan 18, 2014 22:03
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Script is done, they are into "deep prep", Abrams isn't currently interested in shooting in Imax because the cameras are too big a pain in the rear end. http://movies.yahoo.com/news/j-j--a...-212350048.html I know it's idiotic given that the first post-Lucas SW hasn't even started shooting yet, but I got a bit giddy at this: quote:Not to add to the rumors, but Abrams is working on “Believe” with “Gravity” director Alfonso Cuaron. We asked if Abrams plans to direct the next “Star Wars” trilogy entirely on his own, or if he might bring in another director — Cuaron, for example.
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Jan 20, 2014 00:14
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Please, please do not tease me with the idea of Cuaron directing a Star Wars movie.
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Jan 20, 2014 00:17
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Gotta Wear Shades posted:I see that when he says that he's never coming back to the planet but that's about it. The characters in that movie feel very simple and insubstantial to me. in the context of the story they're as deep as they need to be.
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Gotta Wear Shades posted:Please, please do not tease me with the idea of Cuaron directing a Star Wars movie. While I think this is a long shot, I really like the idea of the non Saga starwars movies being a little more out there and not sticking with Classic Starwars Cinematography. You could do some fun things. Noir in the depths of Coruscant jumps immediately to mind.
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Jan 20, 2014 02:08
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Disney has been more than willing to give big properties to what, at the time, seems like an unusual but smart choice. They gave Joss Whedon the FIRST Avengers movie! If it tanked, the franchise would have been hosed. Now obviously it worked, but at the time, even I was surprised. Not cause it was a bad choice, but it just seemed a little too...smart? It made too much sense - and I think Disney knew that. They also gave Shane Black Iron Man 3, which although a lot of people (read: plebs) did not like it was really good and made bank. Disney seems to be courting a lot of this type of talent and I think it's great. Disney wouldn't even have to court them for Star Wars, can you imagine how many amazing directors there are today who have always had an idea for a Star Wars movie but knew it would never happen? As long as they pick the right people, and they've been doing pretty well so far, Disney would be mad to not let amazing directors play in the Star Wars universe and print money
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Jan 20, 2014 02:40
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I wouldn't be surprised if Whedon gets a crack at one once his Marvel commitment has run its course.
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Jan 20, 2014 03:02
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Park Chan-wook doing a Star Wars movie ohgod
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Jan 20, 2014 03:07
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Cuaron did wonderful stuff with Harry Potter, so him doing Star Wars isn't a long shot at all. Would love to see Lucasfilm give a directing gig to Edgar Wright and James Gunn too.
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Jan 20, 2014 03:16
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The MSJ posted:Cuaron did wonderful stuff with Harry Potter, so him doing Star Wars isn't a long shot at all. Edgar Wright it already doing Ant Man with Marvel so I'm assuming he's one of the first on Disney's list of 'friendlies' to tap for Star Wars stuff. edit: Also I am so giddy that Disney has the balls to start chainsawing up the EU.
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Griff Lee posted:edit: Also I am so giddy that Disney has the balls to start chainsawing up the EU. Is it really a surprise though? I think everyone knew going in that "in the event that George decides to make good on the trilogy of trilogies thing, all this stuff is screwed"
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jivjov posted:Is it really a surprise though? I think everyone knew going in that "in the event that George decides to make good on the trilogy of trilogies thing, all this stuff is screwed" Something can be expected and still really nice to see happen.
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Jan 20, 2014 04:01
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Given that DC Films is still dumping stupidly huge amounts of money into, well, crap - it's nice to see a big studio that is making smart decisions in the face of an ever changing industry. Seriously has there ever been an actually legitimately good DC Comics movie? I'm struggling edit: I googled it and the answer is no. And before you say Dark Knight trilogy I said LEGITIMATELY good movies. Dark Knight is a fun popcorn film but suffers from massive problems that are literally entirely caused by laziness and it's frustrating and have no sympathy for it Digi_Kraken fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Jan 20, 2014 04:07
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Griff Lee posted:Given that DC Films is still dumping stupidly huge amounts of money into, well, crap - it's nice to see a big studio that is making smart decisions in the face of an ever changing industry. Man of Steel is legitimately good. (and so is  )
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computer parts posted:Man of Steel is legitimately good. whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???  edit: Armond White said that Man of Steel is the first superhero film to be tackled by a (and I quote) "Real filmmaker" since Tim Burton did Batman. el oh el
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Griff Lee posted:Given that DC Films is still dumping stupidly huge amounts of money into, well, crap - it's nice to see a big studio that is making smart decisions in the face of an ever changing industry. Batman & Robin. Also Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (that was theatrical, right?).
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Jan 20, 2014 04:16
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Griff Lee posted:whhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat??? Your posting is currently worse than Armond White. Step up or  .
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Jan 20, 2014 04:16
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I like the Burton Batman movies. Especially Returns.
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Lord Krangdar posted:Also Batman: Mask of the Phantasm (that was theatrical, right?). For the sake of argument I wasn't counting Mask of the Phantasm since it was an animated picture. I love me some Mask of the Phantasm though. Gotta Wear Shades posted:I like the Burton Batman movies. Especially Returns. I have never been a fan of Tim Burton so I might be a bit harsh towards them - that said, I won't budge on the others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9wi0cPrU4U Digi_Kraken fucked around with this message at 04:21 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Jan 20, 2014 04:17
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Superman 1978, Superman II, all three Nolan Batmen, Burton's Batmen, and History of Violence are all widely considered "good". Sorry if you have weirdo taste.
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porfiria posted:Superman 1978, Superman II, all three Nolan Batmen, Burton's Batmen, and History of Violence are all widely considered "good". Sorry if you have weirdo taste. I know Paradox was a DC imprint but calling A History of Violence a "DC Comics movie" strikes me as misleading and/or disingenuous.
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DNS posted:I know Paradox was a DC imprint but calling A History of Violence a "DC Comics movie" strikes me as misleading and/or disingenuous. I don't even know what any of that means, so probably you're right I guess?
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DNS posted:I know Paradox was a DC imprint but calling A History of Violence a "DC Comics movie" strikes me as misleading and/or disingenuous. It's like calling Howard the Duck a "Marvel movie"
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Yea, saying DC films have a reputation as crap is a little wild. Superman: The Movie and Superman Returns are like the two definitive works in the 'super hero' genre.
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Danger posted:Superman: The Movie and Superman Returns are like the two definitive works in the 'super hero' genre. Man that would explain a lot
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Griff Lee posted:Disney has been more than willing to give big properties to what, at the time, seems like an unusual but smart choice. Jon Favreau is in the Marvel/Disney stable and all but begged for the job when it was announced. I bet he gets one eventually.
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Danger posted:Yea, saying DC films have a reputation as crap is a little wild. Superman: The Movie and Superman Returns are like the two definitive works in the 'super hero' genre. This is the first time I've seen someone on CD speak of Superman Returns without criticism, let alone say it's among the upper echelon of superhero films.
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Justin Godscock posted:This is the first time I've seen someone on CD speak of Superman Returns without criticism, let alone say it's among the upper echelon of superhero films. Plenty of people have said it recently, but it's usually to establish how much they hated Man of Steel.
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Justin Godscock posted:This is the first time I've seen someone on CD speak of Superman Returns without criticism, let alone say it's among the upper echelon of superhero films. You also haven't heard criticism that isn't hella dumb. Superman Returns is top tier.
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Superman Returns was a marvelous film chock full of more metaphors than you could shake a stick at. It just wasn't a good Superman film.
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That's not a good Superman post.
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computer parts posted:Plenty of people have said it recently, but it's usually to establish how much they hated Man of Steel. While Returns is certainly one of the best of the past 25 years, Man of Steel was in the short term one of the best films of the year. criticism that falls back on what is or is not a 'Superman' film is inherently uninteresting.
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V For Vendetta is a DC imprint. So is A History of Violence. Both are excellent movies for very different reasons, and I will fight anyone who says otherwise. Ed: VVV Only in reverse order. Hbomberguy fucked around with this message at 12:48 on Jan 20, 2014 |
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Jan 20, 2014 08:49
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Returns and Man of Steel work best as a double feature.
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Batman TM, Superman, Batman, Begins/TDK/TDKR, are all legitimately good films, whether you enjoy them on a personal level or not. TDKR is the only "arguable" one of those, really, and I can write and have written an essay on why it's the best one (and also the most misunderstood, which explains the variance in that one). Man of Steel and Watchmen are both good in various ways but have mixed responses. Road to Perdition and History of Violence are awesome. Constantine is pretty good on its own merits, even if moving it to America changes it from its source completely. Stardust is pretty good. V for Vendetta, like Man of Steel and Watchmen, gets a mixed response. To bridge this back to Lucas/Star Wars, Howard the Duck is more interesting than almost every Marvel movie. Interesting failures > by the book mediocrity.
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Justin Godscock posted:It's like calling Howard the Duck a "Marvel movie" A History of Violence does not take place in the DC Comics universe, but Howard is a character in Marvel's main comic book continuity.
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Latino Review posted something amusing. Apparently someone did not like Bobba Fett's origin in the prequels, so the Bobba Fett movie is rumored to be about a guy who kills Bobba Fett at the beginning of the movie and then takes his costume and name.
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