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What hot hatch do you own?
This poll is closed.
Golf GTI / R / R32 196 0.02%
Impreza WRX / STi 133 0.01%
Mazdaspeed 3 92 0.01%
Veloster Turbo 20 0.00%
Focus ST 149 0.01%
Other Hot Hatch 230 0.02%
Elantra GT 1000001 99.92%
Total: 1000821 votes
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Atmus
Mar 8, 2002

KakerMix posted:

I constantly get the lower end MPG of my car. I didn't get a hot hatch to put around town like a Prius and neither should you. :colbert:

Pretty much this. I can't get above 25.2mpg on the readout, and I ain't going to drive the way I would have to to do it.

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Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

Atmus posted:

Pretty much this. I can't get above 25.2mpg on the readout, and I ain't going to drive the way I would have to to do it.

No poo poo, I went to visit my folks over Christmas and my mother said several times that I drive "like a maniac" now. Not my fault you live in the rear end end of a golf development accessible through empty, curvy roads with 50 mph limits!

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004
Ha, comparison video between the Fiesta ST and a used BMW M3.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbcj-zE7gBw

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
Haha amazing, especially since I didn't think even my old E46 330Ci would compare to the ST.

I can't wait for mine, I really hope I can get it soon - dealer completely hosed up my order, long story but I should have had my car weeks ago and I won't have it for another 2 months at best unless they can get me a local car.

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004

Voltage posted:

Haha amazing, especially since I didn't think even my old E46 330Ci would compare to the ST.

I can't wait for mine, I really hope I can get it soon - dealer completely hosed up my order, long story but I should have had my car weeks ago and I won't have it for another 2 months at best unless they can get me a local car.

You know. I just wish I could see one negative review of the fiesta ST. I mean there's got to be someone out there that hates it. Every review I've seen has been glowing. I love mine, but surely there's a few cold hearted assholes out there....

Captain Duvel
Dec 14, 2009
I find it visually unappealing

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...
The Fiesta ST just makes me crave a Honda Fit SI. Yes, I know that is completely impractical, but that has been one of the best drat cars I've ever owned. A turbo could only make it great, RIGHT?

But in reality Honda won't even keep the Civic Si up with the rest of the market, and they canceled the S2000, and yeah they pretty much hate fun.

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!
The fit seems super practical, I only test drove one - a manual """""Sport""""" model, I say sport with such enthusiasm because it made the Chevy Prizm I rolled up in feel like a McLaren F1. It may have been one of the slowest cars I have ever driven. 30MPH in second gear and I floor it - nothing happens.

Real cool car in terms of space and reliability, handled nicely, but holy crap an Si/turbo model would be incredible. Just slap the KA20 in that bitch and it would move so well. Honda bring back the fun, I miss you.

Galler
Jan 28, 2008


You've lived a very privileged automotive life if a Fit is the slowest car you've ever driven.

Poisonlizard
Apr 1, 2007

Galler posted:

You've lived a very privileged automotive life if a Fit is the slowest car you've ever driven.

Pretty sure he was talking about the Prizm. And having driven one of the 3 cylinder bastards, I would agree.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

Galler posted:

You've lived a very privileged automotive life if a Fit is the slowest car you've ever driven.

Yeah, the manual fit wasn't a sports car but it was easily one the most fun in its segment of the market. The only thing that I think compares to it in fun value is the Chevy sonic because it has a similar sized engine but with a turbo.

wallaka
Jun 8, 2010

Least it wasn't a fucking red shell

Poisonlizard posted:

Pretty sure he was talking about the Prizm. And having driven one of the 3 cylinder bastards, I would agree.

Nah, you're thinking of the Metro. The Prizm was the Corolla.

veedubfreak
Apr 2, 2005

by Smythe
Well hell. Looks like I got another year before the new Golf R.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/In-Gear/2014/0108/Volkswagen-says-the-Golf-R-will-hit-roads-in-2015

Voltage
Sep 4, 2004

MALT LIQUOR!

Poisonlizard posted:

Pretty sure he was talking about the Prizm. And having driven one of the 3 cylinder bastards, I would agree.

No I meant the Prizm, (which is basically a Corolla and has a 1.8L I4 1ZZ-FE, ~140HP) was much faster. I always see everyone raving about how fun the Fit is and I just don't get it at all. Maybe I'm crazy but it was so painfully slow it sucked out any fun I could have had. I have driven slower cars, but I guess I just expected more with all the praise it gets. Why did they stick a wheezy 1.5L sohc in that thing?

Applebees Appetizer
Jan 23, 2006

Bob A Feet posted:

The Fiesta ST just makes me crave a Honda Fit SI.

More like a Mazdaspeed 2. I think Mazda could make it better than the Fiesta, and if Ford keeps selling them I'd be surprised if Mazda doesn't jump on the bandwagon.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

leica posted:

More like a Mazdaspeed 2. I think Mazda could make it better than the Fiesta, and if Ford keeps selling them I'd be surprised if Mazda doesn't jump on the bandwagon.

I keep hearing the future of the MS line is going to be turbo diesels. A TD Mazda2 would be pretty hot I think.

echobucket
Aug 19, 2004
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/85091/extreme-new-ford-fiesta-rs-coming

Ford Fiesta RS. 230bhp. No idea if this is coming to the US though.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
We already get a Mountune tuning pack (it's a K&N panel and a reflash) that gives 212bhp/236lbs.ft and keeps the warranty. £600 plus fitting.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Calling it an RS without AWD is some sort of sacrilege.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Butt Wizard posted:

Calling it an RS without AWD is some sort of sacrilege.
What makes you say that? There have been three factory cars with an RS badge and AWD: Escort Cosworth, nineties Escort RS2000, later Sierra Sapphire. All others have been FWD or RWD.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

InitialDave posted:

What makes you say that? There have been three factory cars with an RS badge and AWD: Escort Cosworth, nineties Escort RS2000, later Sierra Sapphire. All others have been FWD or RWD.

Meh, it just pisses me off that the 'rally on Sunday, buy on Monday' rules no longer apply to the WRC anymore. The fact there's an AWD Fiesta in the WRC but not one available for sale to the general public is sort of weak.

AvesPKS
Sep 26, 2004

I don't dance unless I'm totally wasted.

Bob A Feet posted:

Yeah, the manual fit wasn't a sports car but it was easily one the most fun in its segment of the market. The only thing that I think compares to it in fun value is the Chevy sonic because it has a similar sized engine but with a turbo.

I have driven exactly 2 manual cars: My Speed3 and a friend's Honda Fit. The clutch on the Fit is so much lighter.

resident
Dec 22, 2005

WE WERE ALL UP IN THAT SHIT LIKE A MUTHAFUCKA. IT'S CLEANER THAN A BROKE DICK DOG.

Anybody bought an MK6 GTI lately? I was thinking about upgrading from my MK4 and thought dealers might be accepting some extreme lowball offers because the MK7 is on the horizon.

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

echobucket posted:

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta/85091/extreme-new-ford-fiesta-rs-coming

Ford Fiesta RS. 230bhp. No idea if this is coming to the US though.

GOT DAM.


Here's hoping at and a Focus RS make it to the US. Is the current Focus capable of taking an AWD system?

albear
Jun 7, 2001

the doctor will see you now..

Butt Wizard posted:

Meh, it just pisses me off that the 'rally on Sunday, buy on Monday' rules no longer apply to the WRC anymore. The fact there's an AWD Fiesta in the WRC but not one available for sale to the general public is sort of weak.

I would love to see an AWD Focus/Fiesta but from what I know, the last few iterations of the RS have all been FWD. I doubt we'll see an AWD variant.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

albear posted:

I would love to see an AWD Focus/Fiesta but from what I know, the last few iterations of the RS have all been FWD. I doubt we'll see an AWD variant.

Yea it blows. I'm saving my pennies for a RS Cosworth but by the time I get the $$$ together I'd imagine most of them would have rusted through.

albear
Jun 7, 2001

the doctor will see you now..

Butt Wizard posted:

Yea it blows. I'm saving my pennies for a RS Cosworth but by the time I get the $$$ together I'd imagine most of them would have rusted through.

According to this article from a year ago, it looks like Ford was at least considering/attempting to put an AWD system on it.

Nidhg00670000
Mar 26, 2010

We're in the pipe, five by five.
Grimey Drawer
This is the right thread for my newest addition to the fleet, right? :v:



1.1 litre, 60 hp. Hear me roar.

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
Careful you don't overheat it and do a head gasket, but aside from that, just keep your foot in it and marvel at how many "fast" cars you find getting in your way.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.
Speaking of new fleet additions - took delivery today:

Rhyno
Mar 22, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Butt Wizard posted:

Speaking of new fleet additions - took delivery today:



Yaaaaaaay! Post more pics! Start a thread!

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

Rhyno posted:

Yaaaaaaay! Post more pics! Start a thread!

I'm gonna have to, our garage is getting more and more absurd.

I have to find out whether the rims that are on it were factory options because OZ doesn't make them anymore.

Other than that and a stereo that won't stop babbling at me in Japanese, that's all that's been changed.




Seriously, everything else is stock - I'm not sure about the pillar speakers but they are very tastefully done. Someone has really looked after this. Initially the plan was to take it up to 300 HP and then leave it at that, but it might be more fun to try and see how close to Concourse standard I can get this thing for non-ridiculous money.

I am lost for words that Toyota ever built a car like this. This thing has a presence the 86 just lacks.

Butt Wizard fucked around with this message at 10:04 on Jan 20, 2014

Red Dad Redemption
Sep 29, 2007

Crossposting, in part, a question from the MZR thread: Has anyone bought or sold a performance modded WRX, STi, GTI, MS3, etc.? Just wondering if the mods or the warranty impacts (voided warranty, at least as to the affected engine/ exhaust components) made resale tougher.

Ringo Star Get
Sep 18, 2006

JUST FUCKING TAKE OFF ALREADY, SHIT

Butt Wizard posted:

Speaking of new fleet additions - took delivery today:



Goddamn that thing looks so clean. I'd love to hoon about in a 90's hatch, what are some other good models from that era in case I somehow come into some money and want to relive some of the classic hatch days?

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
You consider the Celica a hatch? Weird. While it has a hatch, it's pretty universally considered a coupe here.

SFH1989
Apr 23, 2007

Saw something on a Fiesta specific forum and now I want to modify my SES rather than trade it in for an ST.



It's the 2.0L EcoBoost from a Focus ST :getin:

Build thread.

bobfather
Sep 20, 2001

I will analyze your nervous system for beer money

SFH1989 posted:

Saw something on a Fiesta specific forum and now I want to modify my SES rather than trade it in for an ST.



It's the 2.0L EcoBoost from a Focus ST :getin:

Build thread.

2730 lbs with 252 HP.

I briefly looked at all of the photos he posted, and I couldn't help but wonder how much money he's poured into the car. It has to be in excess of $10k USD.

Edit: Almost the same power to weight ratio as a 2013 Camaro SS 1LE. Must be an absolute blast to drive.

bobfather fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Jan 20, 2014

IOwnCalculus
Apr 2, 2003





Awesome build, though I wonder why on the swap? Seems like for the same money you could fully build the 1.6L with a forged bottom end to handle more boost / higher compression and make up the 400cc difference pretty quickly.

Edit: Just realized he didn't start with an ST, that would explain most of it. I think I'd still target the 1.6L turbo over the 2.0L since it should be more of a bolt-in.

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

That guy is well past the point of where he should have just bought a different car. Not to mention getting any traction on that car will be a bitch. FWD hot hatches are fun, but getting them to hookup is drat near impossible.

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SFH1989
Apr 23, 2007

The engine has 252hp if it's stock. They are very easy to get over 300hp and 350ft-lbs. I imagine there's a chance it will torque steer a bit.

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