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dissss
Nov 10, 2007

I'm a terrible forums poster with terrible opinions.

Here's a cat fucking a squid.
According to wikipedia it was a concept model made by Ericsson:

quote:

Mobile Phone
This was a concept phone designed by Ericsson. The phone had a variety of features, including:
  • a stun gun, containing a 20,000 Volt shock to any unauthorised user, and is also handy at disabling a high tech door lock.
  • a fingerprint scanner/analyser/transmitter that can also be used for opening high-tech fingerprint-identification locks
  • Antennae lock pick, which detaches from the phone and when inserted into a keyhole, hitting a key on the phone can then open the lock.
  • "Flip-open" remote control for operating his BMW 750iL (Directional steering pad, LCD monitor for the front and rear view, controls to fire rocket launcher and operate the car's other defence mechanisms)

Much of the phone's style, including its "flip-open" design, was incorporated a few years later into the Ericsson R380, an early smartphone. The R380 combined a fully functional mobile phone, PDA-like tools and WAP services.

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BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Yad Rock posted:

What was that flip-phone thing James Bond had in one of the late 90s movies that also drove his car? I remember it being really futuristic at the time but I'm assuming it would no longer be so unbelievable in 2014.
The Ericsson JB988. Which was just a prop. There wasn't even a tie-in.
The rapid pace of phones even make things in Casino Royale appear quaint (Sony/Ericsson are the main mobile sponsors).

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

WebDog posted:

On the first gen iphone you couldn't do multitasking or have a camera flash or a forward facing camera.
My aging P1 still held up fairly well feature wise. But dragging that out in an emergency did remind me how painfully clunky the UIQ3 interface was despite the phone managing to do everything I needed it to do.

First gen iPhone didn't have apps at launch, or GPS, or 3g, or MMS, or video, copy and paste, exchange email or any other kind of push email.

Basically, all smart phone users had good reason to be smug over iPhone users because the first gen iPhone weren't really smart phones by comparison.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

Lowen SoDium posted:

First gen iPhone didn't have apps at launch, or GPS, or 3g, or MMS, or video, copy and paste, exchange email or any other kind of push email.

Basically, all smart phone users had good reason to be smug over iPhone users because the first gen iPhone weren't really smart phones by comparison.

Webapps are the future. :v:

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

I was looking at stuff about Tiger Electronics and remembered HitClips, which were these little cartridges you put inside these miniature audio players and they'd play 1 minute of a song in really terrible quality. Despite making Tiger a ton of money due to Radio Disney pimping them nonstop they went out of fashion fast because nobody wanted to hear 1 minute of Hoku or the A*TEENS cover of Dancing Queen in ultra low quality when they could just buy the loving album or get an MP3 player.



Why yes, I would love to hear a one minute tinny version of "It's Gonna Be Me" over and over, thanks Tiger! :suicide:

Zeether has a new favorite as of 05:04 on Jan 20, 2014

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber
I love how cyclical this thread is.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!
I'm hoping it goes on long enough for people to start going, "Remember that horrible motion controller MS did for the 360? I think it was like the Connex or something."

Varance
Oct 28, 2004

Ladies, hide your footwear!
Nap Ghost

JediTalentAgent posted:

I'm hoping it goes on long enough for people to start going, "Remember that horrible motion controller MS did for the 360? I think it was like the Connex or something."

This thread needs more ROB, Power Glove, etc..

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Ron Burgundy posted:

The most basic form of implementation is to make the centre channel the sum of L+R and to make the surround channel the difference between L+R. Dolby units include logic to further process the audio to create more discrete sounding channels. Dolby really are the wizards of this kind of thing. Kind of sad it's all gone now.

It's even more sad that Ray Dolby passed away last year in September. He was a real pioneer in noise reduction and was instrumental in bringing affordable surround sound into peoples' homes.

JediTalentAgent
Jun 5, 2005
Hey, look. Look, if- if you screw me on this, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine, you rat bastard!

Varance posted:

This thread needs more ROB, Power Glove, etc..

I don't know if it was ever mentioned in this thread, but Sega for a while had that "Activator" motion-controlled gaming accessory for the Genesis. It was a big octagon that you stood on and were supposed to be able to control games via body movement. I guess it probably worked as well as expected.

The following is maybe more of a 'never-was' tech, but around the same time Sega also prototyped and promoted and finally cancelled a planned Sega VR headset that would feature head-movement detection that was set to cost under $200.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwY-EaUQ_Yc

A lot of popular theories were that Sega would have eventually used both devices and maybe a game pad in conjunction with one another for creating a 16-bit at-home VR experience.

It sort of makes me wonder how the gaming industry would have moved forward if Sega had managed to get VR down in the 90s for home use. It's obvious the Genny version wouldn't have really been all that impressive due to the tech limits of the system, but I wonder if Sega had gotten it to market and gotten it accepted by consumers enough to see it as a good enough bet to develop the Saturn with VR in mind at the start.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry

JediTalentAgent posted:

I don't know if it was ever mentioned in this thread, but Sega for a while had that "Activator" motion-controlled gaming accessory for the Genesis. It was a big octagon that you stood on and were supposed to be able to control games via body movement. I guess it probably worked as well as expected.

The following is maybe more of a 'never-was' tech, but around the same time Sega also prototyped and promoted and finally cancelled a planned Sega VR headset that would feature head-movement detection that was set to cost under $200.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwY-EaUQ_Yc

A lot of popular theories were that Sega would have eventually used both devices and maybe a game pad in conjunction with one another for creating a 16-bit at-home VR experience.

It sort of makes me wonder how the gaming industry would have moved forward if Sega had managed to get VR down in the 90s for home use. It's obvious the Genny version wouldn't have really been all that impressive due to the tech limits of the system, but I wonder if Sega had gotten it to market and gotten it accepted by consumers enough to see it as a good enough bet to develop the Saturn with VR in mind at the start.

VR was a really big gimmick in the early ninties, even though the technology wasn't really there yet. There were few big problems with early VR that pretty much killed it until recently.

1: Headsets were big and heavy making them uncomfortable

2: Displays were fairly low resolution, even by the standards of the time

3: LCD based head mounted displays had bad ghosting and poor pixel refresh times

4: Head tracking had a lot of lag

5: They were very expensive


Here we are 20 years later and the technology is finally caught up enough that people are interested and excited at the prospect of a truly immerse Virtual reality experience.

GreenNight
Feb 19, 2006
Turning the light on the darkest places, you and I know we got to face this now. We got to face this now.

When porn is good in VR then you will know it arrived.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


dissss posted:

There is really nothing to it - because its between the sprocket holes there isn't anything to get out of alignment.

This is a good pic of how its set up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dolby_Digital_track_reader.jpg

In the time I worked in a cinema I can't remember ever having problems with the Dolby Digital sound tracks - the tricky parts were the bits and pieces which kept the platters the film is fed off and back onto running in sync, and also when we needed to run the film in two theaters at once (basically the film would feed off the platter, through one projector, then up along the wall into second projection room, through the second projector and finally onto the take up platter)
I can' t find it, but does anyone remember the pictures a projectionist had taken of his elaborate setup to run the same roll of film through something like 10 theaters with a few minutes of delay between each?

Pneub
Mar 12, 2007

I'M THE DEVIL, AND I WILL WASH OVER THE EARTH AND THE SEAS WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF ALL THE SINNERS

I AM REBORN

GreenNight posted:

When porn is good in VR then you will know it arrived.

Sweat band technology still hasn't caught up unfortunately.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

eddiewalker posted:

I love how cyclical this thread is.

Or maybe it's just obsolete :shrug:

Fooley
Apr 25, 2006

Blue moon of Kentucky keep on shinin'...

GreenNight posted:

When porn is good in VR then you will know it arrived.

I wouldn't say its good but, uh... http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2013/11/oculus-rift-turned-into-a-working-sex-simulator-nsfw/

Probably :nws:

Gann Jerrod
Sep 9, 2005

A gun isn't a gun unless it shoots Magic.

Lowen SoDium posted:

VR was a really big gimmick in the early ninties, even though the technology wasn't really there yet. There were few big problems with early VR that pretty much killed it until recently.

I remember going to an arcade that had a VR Pac-man machine. It was super clunky and not that fun, but who cares, I got to fulfill my lifelong dream of being Pac-man!

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Gann Jerrod posted:

I remember going to an arcade that had a VR Pac-man machine. It was super clunky and not that fun, but who cares, I got to fulfill my lifelong dream of being Pac-man!

Eat a lot of pills and chase ghosts. Sounds like Hunter Thompson - the game.

Ron Burgundy
Dec 24, 2005
This burrito is delicious, but it is filling.

GWBBQ posted:

I can' t find it, but does anyone remember the pictures a projectionist had taken of his elaborate setup to run the same roll of film through something like 10 theaters with a few minutes of delay between each?

It's called interlocking, here's a video of 16 screens showing the same piece of film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdPKGNCw7lM

Tobaccrow
Jan 21, 2008

Don't smoke, kids... Unless you have to.

Lowen SoDium posted:

VR was a really big gimmick in the early ninties, even though the technology wasn't really there yet. There were few big problems with early VR that pretty much killed it until recently.

1: Headsets were big and heavy making them uncomfortable

2: Displays were fairly low resolution, even by the standards of the time

3: LCD based head mounted displays had bad ghosting and poor pixel refresh times

4: Head tracking had a lot of lag

5: They were very expensive


Here we are 20 years later and the technology is finally caught up enough that people are interested and excited at the prospect of a truly immerse Virtual reality experience.

I remember hearing the main reason Sega VR was canned was because people were stupid and would try to walk around with the thing on their head, even at trade show demos.

GWBBQ
Jan 2, 2005


I have a Novint Falcon and one of my first thoughts when it went through a full range of motion on its own was "I'll bet someone has used this for teledildonics," followed shortly by "I hope the previous owner didn't use this one for that."

Pneub
Mar 12, 2007

I'M THE DEVIL, AND I WILL WASH OVER THE EARTH AND THE SEAS WILL RUN RED WITH THE BLOOD OF ALL THE SINNERS

I AM REBORN

Tobaccrow posted:

I remember hearing the main reason Sega VR was canned was because people were stupid and would try to walk around with the thing on their head, even at trade show demos.

Untethered VR is dangerous dude.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAtrkMGNp0o

uwaeve
Oct 21, 2010



focus this time so i don't have to keep telling you idiots what happened
Lipstick Apathy
My eclectic collection of obsolete tech:

Something I haven't seen mentioned is the Rio Karma. It was a 20 GB hard-drive based MP3 player notable for its support of FLAC and gapless playback of the electronica poo poo I listened to at the time.

I still have it, and should really see of it's worth anything.

I also went all-in for MiniDiscs, can't remember offhand if they did gapless or if it was another reason I wanted them. Had a portable recorder, car deck, and home component-sized recording deck.

The TI calculators own, and I think if I had started with RPN, I'd be a huge fanboy of the HP stuff. My dad had a HP calculator that was the size of a TI-89 and had four expansion slots, one of which interfaced with a thermal printer, I believe.

TurboGrafx16 owned, and I would have killed for the color portable that played the same cards as the full-sized console at the time when the original Game Boy was out (I think).

I had one of those electronic organizers in like 1995. It sucked.

Also still the proud owner of a Compaq iPaq along with a sleeve that housed a second battery and expansion slot. Was great for synced contact info and reading ebooks. Though I think I mainly read project gutenburg stuff that were essentially text files, my memory is hazy on that. I don't believe you could buy current releases.

I had an early model Samsung Blu-ray player that was always refusing to play discs because of firmware. Samsung was pretty reactionary with the firmware releases, they'd always be a month or two later than the movie releases. After a while they just stopped doing updates. Pretty frustrating to get your sweet Netflix new release on BD (when BD access didn't even cost more than a regular subscription) and have it just hang trying to load.

I shudder to think of what all that money would get me today if it was instead invested. I have one Rubbermaid organizer representing probably $4k in retarded technology spending. Maybe more.

uwaeve has a new favorite as of 17:23 on Jan 21, 2014

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

Scout Finch Bitch
Minidiscs were really popular with Podcasters and reporters for a while just because the recording quality on them was amazing. You could drop one of the 200ish dollar recorder/players onto the middle of a table and pull audio that would have otherwise required you to whip out a laptop, audio mixer and several really nice microphones.

Then technology caught up, laptops have good sound cards and high quality mics are very affordable.

Also I liked minidiscs because they were cheaper than MP3 players and had better sound quality than MP3 CD's.

Axeman Jim
Nov 21, 2010

The Canadians replied that they would rather ride a moose.
A lot of pro musicians still use Minidisc players - I know several function players who won't put their backing tracks on anything else. MDs don't skip like a CD, they have better sound quality than an MP3 player (in terms of both bitrate and noise) and almost never go wrong. One guy I work with has played over 500 weddings with the same Minidisc player and has yet to have to use his backup (used to be a laptop, now an iPad) even once.

strangemusic
Aug 7, 2008

I shield you because I need charge
Is not because I like you or anything!


The Rio Karma was incredible and a thing of beauty. I wish it were still around. :sigh:

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

strangemusic posted:

The Rio Karma was incredible and a thing of beauty. I wish it were still around. :sigh:

It was OK until you got tired of the 10 songs you were carrying. It shipped with parallel port adapter to load up music and transferring 32mb took so drat long that I never rotated anything on.

Maybe you could buy a USB1 adapter, but that new little connector was never going to catch on.

strangemusic
Aug 7, 2008

I shield you because I need charge
Is not because I like you or anything!


eddiewalker posted:

It was OK until you got tired of the 10 songs you were carrying. It shipped with parallel port adapter to load up music and transferring 32mb took so drat long that I never rotated anything on.

Maybe you could buy a USB1 adapter, but that new little connector was never going to catch on.

Sure you're not thinking of something else? The Karma was 20gb with USB 2.0

Slanderer
May 6, 2007

uwaeve posted:

Also still the proud owner of a Compaq iPaq along with a sleeve that housed a second battery and expansion slot. Was great for synced contact info and reading ebooks. Though I think I mainly read project gutenburg stuff that were essentially text files, my memory is hazy on that. I don't believe you could buy current releases.

I got 4 or 5 of these brand new at a yard sale, along with a bunch of branch new accessories (folding keyboard docks???) a couple years back. After a while I realized I have absolutely no use for them, but I can't bring myself to throw them away.

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

strangemusic posted:

Sure you're not thinking of something else? The Karma was 20gb with USB 2.0

Oops. I thought someone was still in love with the even more obsolete original Rio.

mystes
May 31, 2006

uwaeve posted:

Something I haven't seen mentioned is the Rio Karma. It was a 20 GB hard-drive based MP3 player notable for its support of FLAC and gapless playback of the electronica poo poo I listened to at the time.
It's amazing that you still have a functioning Karma. I got one from Best Buy with the optional extended warranty, and it broke like 5 times in one year, so they ended up just allowing me to get a refund. I think there was some sort of Zip drive click-of-death style issue with the drive head parking or something.

(Admittedly I also had bad luck, although not quite so bad, with other hard-drive mp3 players.)

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Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

eddiewalker posted:

It shipped with parallel port adapter to load up music and transferring 32mb took so drat long that I never rotated anything on.

I can remember loading up my RCA Lyra's 64 MB compact flash took something silly like 20 minutes on its included parallel CF reader. It took less time to transfer my MP3s from our desktop to my dad's work laptop with a crossover cable and then write them to the CF with a PCMCIA adapter.

Also god help you if you had one of the early HDD based players before USB 2.0 and/or 1394.

Geoj has a new favorite as of 23:15 on Jan 21, 2014

eddiewalker
Apr 28, 2004

Arrrr ye landlubber

Geoj posted:

I can remember loading up my RCA Lyra's 64 MB compact flash took something silly like 20 minutes on its included parallel CF reader. It took less time to transfer my MP3s from our desktop to my dad's work laptop with a crossover cable and then write them to the CF with a PCMCIA adapter.

Also god help you if you had one of the early HDD based players before USB 2.0 and/or 1394.

I had serious buyers remorse with my first-gen MP3 player. I already had a portable minidisc player, but on paper the Rio looked like the future. Longer battery, never having to buy physical media, not having to record music to MD in realtime. I even thought SmartMedia cards would drop in price so I could have tons of capacity.

Then I realized that a minidisc held about the same amount of music per load, but could be swapped in half a second.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



I got a Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen or whatever it was called, new in box at a garage sale back in 2006. Best $20 I ever spent.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Pham Nuwen posted:

I got a Creative Nomad Jukebox Zen or whatever it was called, new in box at a garage sale back in 2006. Best $20 I ever spent.

I bought one of those new in 2002 or so. Cheaper than an iPod at the time and pretty durable. Never did fill up that 30Gb drive. I last used it about a year ago and it still works.

ravenkult
Feb 3, 2011


What's the most cyberpunk obsolete tech you got?

Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



Axeman Jim posted:

MDs [...] have better sound quality than an MP3 player (in terms of both bitrate and noise)
This has been true for a while in history, but it certainly wasn't when MD first came out.

Currently there are a number of solid state mp3 players that can play lossless formats, so that and the anti-skip are pretty moot now.

Not knocking the reliability though and not saying he's an idiot for sticking with whatever has worked for him consistently.

eddiewalker posted:

It was OK until you got tired of the 10 songs you were carrying. It shipped with parallel port adapter to load up music and transferring 32mb took so drat long that I never rotated anything on.

Maybe you could buy a USB1 adapter, but that new little connector was never going to catch on.
Ahhhhh.... the PMP300. Sucked down battery while in standby mode too; about just as fast as when playing music! Glorious.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON

Mister Kingdom posted:

I bought one of those new in 2002 or so. Cheaper than an iPod at the time and pretty durable. Never did fill up that 30Gb drive. I last used it about a year ago and it still works.

I still have my Nomad 3...works to this day, other than the actual headphone jack being worn out and not sending audio to the L channel (line out the back still works fine but isn't volume-adjustable.)

Geoj has a new favorite as of 00:02 on Jan 22, 2014

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



ravenkult posted:

What's the most cyberpunk obsolete tech you got?

Billy Idol's 1993 album Cyberpunk actually came with a floppy disk multimedia presentation that won it a fair bit of hype at the time:




Screenshot:

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Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



ravenkult posted:

What's the most cyberpunk obsolete tech you got?

I have one of these:



feels pretty cyberpunk.

edit: oops image leeching

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