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Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary

Regarde Aduck posted:

People keep saying "lovely taste in porn". Can someone explain to me what good taste in porn entails?

Both HortonNash and Automatic Slim are connoisseurs of the finest quality porn available to the common man. How dare you question their impeccable critical eye for pornography?

Or were you trying to learn from the masters?

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RandomPauI
Nov 24, 2006


Grimey Drawer
Quality porno should have little to no Photoshopping. What Photoshop there is has to be artisinal.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Regarde Aduck posted:

People keep saying "lovely taste in porn". Can someone explain to me what good taste in porn entails?

Not paying for it.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
Tony Gallagher stepped down as Telegraph Editor. Quite dramatically too apparently; a friend who works there only heard about it after he was "being 'banged out' of the building."

Guido Fawkes has the Telegraph statement about it here: http://order-order.com/2014/01/21/telegraph-gallagher-statement-in-full/

Looks like a big upper echelons reshuffle as they move away from print and focus heavily on digital. Newspapers today just ain't what they used to be.

Plavski fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Jan 21, 2014

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Plavski posted:

Tony Gallagher stepped down as Telegraph Editor. Quite dramatically too apparently; a friend who works there only heard about it after he was "being 'banged out' of the building."

Guido Fawkes has the Telegraph statement about it here: http://order-order.com/2014/01/21/telegraph-gallagher-statement-in-full/

Looks like a big upper echelons reshuffle as they move away from print and focus heavily on digital. Newspapers today just ain't what they used to be.

Many years ago pretty much the standard Telegraph policy for firing people was to wait for them to go to lunch, load their desk into the goods lift and take it down to the lobby, then make them clear it out there when they came back. I guess this is progress of a sort.

ReV VAdAUL
Oct 3, 2004

I'm WILD about
WILDMAN
What does it mean to be 'banged out'?

I hesitate to ask given the thread title.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

ReV VAdAUL posted:

What does it mean to be 'banged out'?
As you walk out of the building the journalists bang their fists on their desks. It's an old tradition when a respected editor leaves.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
The enterprise editor clarified:

quote:

Bex Burn-Callander ‏@sparky000 3h
Tony Gallagher was just drummed out of the office. Newsroom in shock. Farewell, @gallaghereditor.

quote:

Bex Burn-Callander ‏@sparky000 2h
Can the record state that it is, in fact, 'banged out'. Not 'drummed out. We are not in the army. Speed tweeting is my curse.

So banged out is synonymous with being drummed out, but in a newsie manner.

ReV VAdAUL
Oct 3, 2004

I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

Zephro posted:

As you walk out of the building the journalists bang their fists on their desks. It's an old tradition when a respected editor leaves.

Ah cool, thanks.

geegee
Aug 6, 2005

Plavski posted:

The enterprise editor clarified:



So banged out is synonymous with being drummed out, but in a newsie manner.

Sounds like the two terms have quite opposite meanings. Being "drummed out" of a job has very definite negative connotations while being "banged out" seems to be a sign of respect.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall
Can't stop laughing

a tragedy

Maybe if the Brooks' didn't want police not telling them they'd be showing up, they shouldn't allegedly dispose of a bunch of evidence the day of their last visit?

The sympathy push has begun and I bet not one juror buys it.

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
Oh no poor Brooks! Now, imagine if she was black and not extraordinarily wealthy. This would have been the rule, not the exception.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Spangly A posted:

Can't stop laughing

a tragedy

Maybe if the Brooks' didn't want police not telling them they'd be showing up, they shouldn't allegedly dispose of a bunch of evidence the day of their last visit?

The sympathy push has begun and I bet not one juror buys it.

I am getting a vision of the Buzz and Woody meme with 'porn, porn everywhere' in my head as this proceeds.

ReV VAdAUL
Oct 3, 2004

I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

Spangly A posted:

The sympathy push has begun and I bet not one juror buys it.

As with Plebgate this will be one of those unique times where police conduct is not beyond reproach. Of course given their very close ties to the Police Brooks et al's fear of what the police would do was likely based on what they'd had the police do to other people. Something to remind anyone who expresses sympathy for her of.

Mr Cuddles
Jan 29, 2010

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.
She accused the police of leaking information? Of course they loving did you idiot. Not so nice when it happens to be information about you is it? Vile woman.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

HortonNash posted:

Haha, homeopathic medicine..he has lovely taste in porn, he believes in woo and he married Rebecca Wade...how much more evidence does the court need to find him guilty of being a gullible moron?
On the other hand he earns more money than any ten posters in this thread put together, so clearly The Market Has Spoken. He's one of the ubermenschen and we should be grateful for the chance to lick the ground on which he walks.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary
http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/23/rebekah-brooks-james-murdoch-laptops

quote:

Rebekah Brooks sought the personal approval of James Murdoch for the Sun editorial comment which marked the paper's switch from New Labour to Conservative before the last election, an Old Bailey jury has heard.

The phone-hacking trial was given detailed evidence of the contents of two laptop computers and an iPad which were found hidden behind a rubbish bin on the day after police arrested Brooks in July 2011. An Apple laptop contained four News International documents, including one headed "Draft editorial for approval of JRM".

The court heard that "JRM" was a reference to James Murdoch, who at that time was the chief executive of News International parent company News Corp for Europe and Asia, and that the draft editorial had then appeared in the Sun during the Labour party's annual conference, on September 30 2009, under the headline Labour's Lost It.

Detective Sergeant Hayley Broom told the court that the laptop had also contained a three-year budget plan for News International newspapers, headed Durability and Growth; a summary of stocks held by Brooks; and the text of a speech which she made to women in the advertising and communications industry in February 2010 in which she said: "I have always felt that journalists should be read, not heard, though the opposite has not done my friend Piers Morgan any harm."

Counsel for both Rebekah and her husband, Charlie Brooks, suggested that the three computers had been for the sole use of Charlie Brooks. Apart from the four News International documents, the court heard, the Apple laptop also contained chapters from a novel being written by Brooks and apps relating to football and racing.

Neil Saunders, for Charlie Brooks, told the jury that a Sony Vaio laptop contained about 8,000 emails, none of which had been sent by his wife. He also told the court that it contained "approximately 25 images of female nudity including images of breasts, female genitalia, female masturbation and images of a sexual nature portraying penetration with other females".

An Apple iPad had contained more apps involving football and racing as well as the Angry Birds game. Jonathan Laidlaw QC, for Rebekah Brooks, told the jury: "Mrs Brooks' case is that they were not laptops used by her."

Rebekah Brooks, Charlie Brooks and their security adviser, Mark Hanna, deny conspiring to pervert the course of justice by concealing computers from police. The trial continues.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
How do you claim you weren't attempting to pervert the course of justice when you hid evidence from investigators?

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010

Byolante posted:

How do you claim you weren't attempting to pervert the course of justice when you hid evidence from investigators?

Shame from your porn collection. There's more on the laptop's hard drive, the fact that there's criminal evidence on it is just a coincidence. Honest, Guv.

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli

Byolante posted:

How do you claim you weren't attempting to pervert the course of justice when you hid evidence from investigators?
Claim the raid ruined your six month old daughter's life.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

So what makes this important, if I mau ask?

Lovely Joe Stalin
Jun 12, 2007

Our Lovely Wang
I assume they are trying to suggest that he wouldn't watch a sly bit of the old romantic rubber fist on a computer his wife uses. Thereby arguing that by disposing of it they weren't trying to get rid of evidence.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Considering they only found 25 images he's actually coming off as rather prudish.

Automatic Slim
Jul 1, 2007

The Entire Universe posted:

Considering they only found 25 images he's actually coming off as rather prudish.

We haven't found out if those are pictures of his wife yet.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Darth Walrus posted:

So what makes this important, if I mau ask?

Direct and important documented interaction and consultation with James Murdoch, major executive of the trunk company and early-onset-Alzheimer's victim as of the Leveson Inquiry.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.
well there's always, http://popbitch.com/home/2014/01/23/the-milky-bars-are-on-t/
code:
         >> Horse play <<
        That old chestnut

    There was much amusement when it
    was revealed in court that in among
    the contents of the bag dumped by
    Charlie Brooks - alongside the
    laptop and all the lesbian porn -
    was a solitary conker.

    It becomes even funnier when you
    know that the rumour going around
    London legal and media circles
    suggested that, if police were to
    check the laptop thoroughly, they
    might see that the chestnut
    is not the only thing of the
    horse variety on there.
Poor Raisa :magical:

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Direct and important documented interaction and consultation with James Murdoch, major executive of the trunk company and early-onset-Alzheimer's victim as of the Leveson Inquiry.

Right, but what makes it incriminating with regards to the Hackgate allegations? It just seems like a case of consulting your boss about an important political decision.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Darth Walrus posted:

Right, but what makes it incriminating with regards to the Hackgate allegations? It just seems like a case of consulting your boss about an important political decision.

Rebekah Brooks sent an extremely important work email from that laptop. The only defence they have against conspiracy to pervert the court of justice is that these are not work laptops, these are Charlie's personal angry birds and porn laptops.

That they don't have any evidence juicier than alleged alluded horse porn is irrelevant: these are evidence, as they are used for work. Therefore they're about to be crucified for trying to dispose of them.

Plavski
Feb 1, 2006

I could be a revolutionary

quote:

Media Guardian ‏@mediaguardian 29m
RT @lisaocarroll: iPad found in Chelsea carpark contained 4 NI related emails forwarded from Rebekah to Charlie including email to Murdoch

More work e-mails being dumped in a carpark for disposal.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Spangly A posted:

Rebekah Brooks sent an extremely important work email from that laptop. The only defence they have against conspiracy to pervert the court of justice is that these are not work laptops, these are Charlie's personal angry birds and porn laptops.

That they don't have any evidence juicier than alleged alluded horse porn is irrelevant: these are evidence, as they are used for work. Therefore they're about to be crucified for trying to dispose of them.

Ah, I get it. So it's less that this specifically is bad and more that they've been caught lying about it.

A Winner is Jew
Feb 14, 2008

by exmarx

Darth Walrus posted:

Ah, I get it. So it's less that this specifically is bad and more that they've been caught lying about it.

Basically yes. When it comes to the court of law the only thing worse than being caught lying about something is being caught destroying/tampering with evidence. That they have just been nailed to the wall when it comes to lying about trying to destroy evidence is really bad.

I believe "proper hosed" is the appropriate term to use in England.

Spangly A
May 14, 2009

God help you if ever you're caught on these shores

A man's ambition must indeed be small
To write his name upon a shithouse wall

Darth Walrus posted:

Ah, I get it. So it's less that this specifically is bad and more that they've been caught lying about it.

Being caught destroying evidence is a one way ticket to prison no matter who you are. It's not for laughs that those videos got leaked: someone wants to make absolutely sure the public understand what's happened, so there's no chance to slime their way out.

I would be utterly shocked if they get anything less than contempt of court, it would imply the whole legal system is admitting it just gives no fucks. What we can hope for is bestiality charges on top of it, that'd be a nice one.

Fuckt Tupp
Apr 19, 2007

Science
The proper British way to wipe a hard drive: Drop it in a parking garage.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Internet Webguy posted:

The proper British way to wipe a hard drive: Drop it in a parking garage.

Mail it to the met, ask them to take care of it seeing as though they're drat good at destroying information.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad posted:

well there's always, http://popbitch.com/home/2014/01/23/the-milky-bars-are-on-t/
code:
         >> Horse play <<
        That old chestnut

    There was much amusement when it
    was revealed in court that in among
    the contents of the bag dumped by
    Charlie Brooks - alongside the
    laptop and all the lesbian porn -
    was a solitary conker.

    It becomes even funnier when you
    know that the rumour going around
    London legal and media circles
    suggested that, if police were to
    check the laptop thoroughly, they
    might see that the chestnut
    is not the only thing of the
    horse variety on there.
Poor Raisa :magical:

He was trying to dispose of it because it was Raisa's laptop and he didn't want her reputation to be tarnished by her viewing of lewd material.

Rude Dude With Tude
Apr 19, 2007

Your President approves this text.
Holy poo poo some truthbombs going off right now about the Sunday Mirror & NOTW

http://twitter.com/Fhamiltontimes posted:

It can be reported for 1st time that Dan Evans, former reporter, has pleaded guilty to phone #hacking while at Sunday Mirror

Evans also pleaded guilty to involvement in #hacking conspiracy at News of the World

Evans says he began #hacking at Sunday Mirror mid-03 but "prior to that it had probably been going on for quite a long time"

Evans says senior journalists at Sunday Mirror were aware of phone #hacking "on a fairly grand scale"

Evans says he was doing good investigations at Sunday Mirror before he was taken aside, told how to hack and told "this is your job" now

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

I heard Dan Evans' evidence would be explosive, so it's worth following. Here's my Twitter list of journalists at the trial.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
Piers Morgan must be accurately making GBS threads into an eggcup to win £5 his pants about now, surely? Mid '03 is while he was still there, right?

e: Whoops Evans hacked at the Sunday Mirror, not the Daily where Piers worked.

Loonytoad Quack fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Jan 27, 2014

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Darth Walrus posted:

Right, but what makes it incriminating with regards to the Hackgate allegations? It just seems like a case of consulting your boss about an important political decision.
It's also interesting more broadly because NI papers have always claimed that the Murdochs have no day-to-day say on the editorial line of the paper. Which we all knew was rubbish, but now we can directly prove it.

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HortonNash
Oct 10, 2012

Loonytoad Quack posted:

Piers Morgan must be accurately making GBS threads into an eggcup to win £5 his pants about now, surely? Mid '03 is while he was still there, right?

Hopefully he will be held in Federal Prison without bail pending a long drawn out extradition challenge.

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