I was happy for SRT getting on the podium after some major setbacks, but that bullshit call rewarding Winkelhock's dumb desperation move ruined the mood. Elkin's incompetence combined with NASTARD officiating doesn't bode well for this series. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Tekne posted:NASTARD ban btw the officiating crew is the old ALMS guys, not Grand-Am so yeah. I didnt mind the yellow at the end, but that penalty is pretty dumb. Then again, its against Level 5 AND a Ferrari so gently caress them forever perfect ending.
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# ? Jan 26, 2014 20:44 |
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Wasn't Level 5 the one that almost shut down because their Venezuelan paydriver's funding wasn't authorized? Also, Memo Gidley has an "unstable" spinal fracture that will require surgery
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# ? Jan 26, 2014 22:08 |
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AceFace905 posted:Wasn't Level 5 the one that almost shut down because their Venezuelan paydriver's funding wasn't authorized? Nah that's Starworks. And even still they have Popow with them. Level 5 is literally an indictment away from being gone because Scott Tucker is in a loan shark.
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# ? Jan 26, 2014 22:27 |
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BMB5150 posted:Nah that's Starworks. And even still they have Popow with them. Level 5 is literally an indictment away from being gone because Scott Tucker is in a loan shark.
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# ? Jan 26, 2014 23:24 |
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AceFace905 posted:THAT's why I had heard about Level 5. Did they ever figure out who was legitimately defrauding the Venezuelans? I think they're still investigating that. Apparently someone forged one of the main people to ok funding and the beneficiaries went hog wild buying gently caress off yachts and an island. Anyone with the Venezuela sticker is in this so Enzo Potolicchio, Alex Popow to name a few. Notice how Starworks took a long time to get DP going and Potoliccio is down to a LMPC car this year. e: Speak of Level 5, this chaos won't end. Next they'll rescind that caution and everyone has to realign everyone in the same spot everyone was at the time of caution and redo the final 15 minutes. BMB5150 fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jan 27, 2014 |
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:16 |
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NASCAR folks 2 hours ago: WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT UNAVOIDABLE CONTACT MY rear end NASCAR folks now: WHAT IS THIS BULLSHIT REVERSING THE WINNER, I KNEW THIS MERGER WAS A SHAM ALL ALONG I hope they stocked up on their Muscle Milk, so they don't break any bones from the mental gymnastics they're going through.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:26 |
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Cygni posted:@marshallpruett 6m Good. I don’t follow all the backdoor dealings and shenanigans of these rich guys/sports car team owners so I don’t really care about what Level 5 does off the track. But that call was 100% horseshit, and it would have put a huge stain on the first unified race. Still, gently caress NASCAR and France family forever.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:31 |
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poopzilla posted:Good. Cygni posted:btw the officiating crew is the old ALMS guys, not Grand-Am so yeah. I'd say ALMS' officiating group just hosed up and by chance on the heels of a NASCAR-like caution. Well whatever.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:33 |
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BMB5150 posted:I'd say ALMS' officiating group just hosed up and by chance on the heels of a NASCAR-like caution. Well whatever. Whatever, they fixed it so I'm glad. But since "NASCAR" is in charge now everytime something like this happens people will be all and its gonna poo poo up sports car racing.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:39 |
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Even after all The GTD bullshit, I have faith in this series. Yes, some definite mistakes were made, but IMSA made good on arguably the biggest one of them all. The racing is excellent and I feel like NASCAR is really putting forth some effort to make the series successful. I'm excited for Sebring, I think it'll be a good one.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 00:56 |
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They never, ever should have made the penalty call so soon after the finish. They didnt even have time to fully evaluate all the video evidence before making a call. OK, at least they admitted they hosed up, they still look dumb.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 01:02 |
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CactusWeasle posted:They never, ever should have made the penalty call so soon after the finish. They didnt even have time to fully evaluate all the video evidence before making a call. OK, at least they admitted they hosed up, they still look dumb. Agreeing with this, hopefully they learned that lesson. People are paying attention to this stuff now. I still hate Scott Tucker.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 01:06 |
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Lots of people bitching about "loving nascar" after a call that sounds like something from the FIA.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 01:10 |
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I don't know, I think Indycar still wins the epic bad calls for either oval racing in the rain, or for penalizing Dixon because they were looking at the wrong video. This is pretty close though.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 01:35 |
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IOwnCalculus posted:I don't know, I think Indycar still wins the epic bad calls for either oval racing in the rain, or for penalizing Dixon because they were looking at the wrong video. Edmonton 2010 says hi.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 01:38 |
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Grand-Am and ALMS used to penalize guys for accidently touching each other when neither car was really impacted at all, so i dunno. Everyone is bad at this these days.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 01:40 |
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Fauxhawk Express posted:Edmonton 2010 says hi. As terrible as that call was, it was at least consistent with the equally bad no blocking rule. There's certainly no precedent for green flagging a race instead of red, or penalizing a driver for jumping a restart waved off by the flagger.
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I looked into it and the old ALMS crew is entirely responsible for that dumbass call. Just to clarify, I am a fan of NASCAR outside of their officiating, then again, none of the sports I watch have good officials, refs, or judges.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 04:29 |
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The 'NASCAR as poo poo' stuff started with a bullshit 15 minute yellow you dolts
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 05:14 |
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go3 posted:The 'NASCAR as poo poo' stuff started with a bullshit 15 minute yellow you dolts
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 06:05 |
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George Zimmer posted:Even after all The GTD bullshit, I have faith in this series. Yes, some definite mistakes were made, but IMSA made good on arguably the biggest one of them all. The racing is excellent and I feel like NASCAR is really putting forth some effort to make the series successful. I'm excited for Sebring, I think it'll be a good one. I agree with this. The Unification was a good thing overall for the sport in NA. And it’s too early to say what affect NASCAR ownership will have on the sport. But they should tread really lightly in my opinion. By that I mean, they should have no visible impact on the on-track racing. And I guess everyone will say that, but c’mon, if you’ve seen a NASCAR race recently, the yellow flags are thrown out on cue. If they do that with sports car racing in the US, it will kill the sport for a generation.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 06:05 |
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At the end of the day, the sad truth is the most qualified sanctioning body in the US to oversee sports car racing here is NASCAR. It wasn't an IRL/CART merger where both were failing, Grand Am ate ALMS whole. Make of that what you will.
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# ? Jan 27, 2014 22:00 |
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N: http://www.gordonkirby.com/categories/columns/theway/2014/the_way_it_is_no418.html V:
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 01:39 |
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N: http://www.autoextremist.com/fumes1/2014/1/27/the-nascar-ization-of-major-league-sports-car-racing-a-bitte.html V: A blowhard, but
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 03:31 |
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They were really afraid cars would be winning by multiple laps weren't they. Oh well, there is always lemans right?
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 03:49 |
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Uncle Jam posted:Oh well, there is always lemans right?
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 04:48 |
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Is there any sanctioning body that isn't batshit loving stupid/insane? I can't think of one. It's just varying degrees of it.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 04:55 |
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WRG with the Outlaws is the only one I can think of off the top of my head. e- also Boomer, those are pro-click, nice find. The first one is a great read from the inside, the second is the sad blubbering of a 1%er sportscar fan Seizure Meat fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Jan 28, 2014 |
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Auto Extremist is a bit of a bitch (like Pressdog from 2006 onward) but it's still interesting, as he hits on a couple of good points. Oh, and lets go back to 2008 to bitch about WRG. I get the impression that most sanctioning bodies, touring series and racetracks are trying to milk the last bit of blood from the racing stone before everything goes to poo poo.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 05:38 |
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poo poo, I could throw WRG under the bus as much as NASCAR, but overall they're pretty fair. On the dirt mod side, loving DIRT was the worst.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 08:44 |
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Personperson14 posted:Is there any sanctioning body that isn't batshit loving stupid/insane? I can't think of one. It's just varying degrees of it. The V8 Supercars one isn't too bad. Sure they have had some brain fade moments, but all in all they haven't been too horrible. I don't think CAMS looks after the V8s anymore, I think it is TEGA.
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You Am I posted:The V8 Supercars one isn't too bad. Sure they have had some brain fade moments, but all in all they haven't been too horrible. I don't think CAMS looks after the V8s anymore, I think it is TEGA. They have had some howlers in the past, but I haven't watched it in such a long time I couldn't tell you what they're like now. Here is one of their finest moments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99_DzgW_3DE edit: Lowndes cut the track after the crash and recorded that fast lap and it stood for a while.
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# ? Jan 28, 2014 11:00 |
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VikingSkull posted:At the end of the day, the sad truth is the most qualified sanctioning body in the US to oversee sports car racing here is NASCAR. It wasn't an IRL/CART merger where both were failing, Grand Am ate ALMS whole. Your right unfortunately, I feel like I'm in a bad comedy movie where the village idiot is the only person with the power to save his village from the monster.
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# ? Jan 31, 2014 22:33 |
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Another Gidley update: http://www.racer.com/imsa-memo-gidley-recovery-update/article/332100/ I'm still fuckin' shocked that the dude is conscious, talking, and has all of his extremities. People can talk about tube frames not being real racecars and all that poo poo, but goddamn that Riley did a pretty good job.
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# ? Jan 31, 2014 22:40 |
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Gidley would have been screwed in an open-top P2.
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# ? Jan 31, 2014 23:36 |
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LordPants posted:They have had some howlers in the past, but I haven't watched it in such a long time I couldn't tell you what they're like now. Nah, the best incident with Murphy was the 2002 Bathurst where he copped a 5 minute penalty. Seeing him march off to the toilet after parking the car was gold
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# ? Feb 1, 2014 02:40 |
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My brother and I just bit the bullet and got tickets to Sebring. Flights weren't too bad from California, all told. Last time I went I had a goddamn blast so I'm pretty dang excited.
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# ? Feb 4, 2014 04:05 |
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 10:49 |
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So you guys remember the Whittington's and all that drug trafficking they did in the 80s. Well for them, old habits die hard http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2014/02/don_whittington_bill_whittington_drug_smuggling_cia.php?page=3
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